Best move to use in a fight?

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
The only way to guarantee avoiding injury is to not be in the fight at all. If the fight cannot be avoided the best way to avoid injury is respond correctly to the situation. This requires years of training and education. There is no such thing as a 'good move', it doesn't exist.

I have been in over 500 actual melee fights, both hand to hand and with weapons; not competition fights or staged or playtime. Every one was different, requiring entirely different tactics. My personal philosphy is comprised of a few different major components:

1. Fighting must ALWAYS be the last resort. ALWAYS.
2. Soul > Mind > Body
3. Before you perform a single action in an encounter, you should have complete understanding of how the engagement will progress.
4. There should never be a reason to need more than one attack, or series of attacks with purpose.
5. Once a fight is engaged, it is for your life, and the only way to guarantee your safety is to win, no matter what that takes.
6. The point of taking an action in combat is to end the confrontation. If your action does not directly contribute to that goal, it is not a good action to take.


Does this work? Well, the last time I was struck in combat (beyond taking a blow on the arm purposefully or something similar), was when I was 14. I'm 32 now. 80-90% of my fights have been between 14 and 32.

Note the bold parts. You are either a liar or you don't practice what you preach. 500 fights? You are either a punk ass or an idiot if you've been in that many actual non-staged fights. Bouncers at the worst nightclubs don't get in that many fights.
Way to be a hypocrite.

Please don't be ignorant on my time. I have worked security since leaving the military at age 22. One of my jobs was at a regional hospital, which is perhaps the single most intensive security position a person can have. Our average number of assault responses in a given year topped 700 (documented in incident reports, which is why I know so closely how many fights I've been in), and I woked there for some time. Granted, many of those combats were fairly one sided, like in the case of an elderly alzheimers patient. However, having the county detox tank and mental lock-down facility on site provided many other opportunities for perfecting self-defense practices. Add to this jobs working patrol security, alarm response, fugitive retrieval...you get the idea. I have many friends with similar numbers of incidents. It's not uncommon. Just because most people turn a blind eye to what really goes on every day in society is no reason to make broad uneducated statements.

I mean really, ask a cop in a city with a population over 250k how many times he's had to fight/restrain someone in 20 years. There's your answer.

 

[jtusa]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
specifically, go nuclear on his butt

:Q I thought we were talking about fights.

 

[LordMorpheus]

If the guy is tickleish, there is nothing that you can do to him that will knock him down and render him useless more effectively than digging your fingers into his flanks and wiggling them about.

I have a friend that I used to fight with alot, in a friendly way, and if things were ever going sour for me I just played that trump card.

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
The only way to guarantee avoiding injury is to not be in the fight at all. If the fight cannot be avoided the best way to avoid injury is respond correctly to the situation. This requires years of training and education. There is no such thing as a 'good move', it doesn't exist.

I have been in over 500 actual melee fights, both hand to hand and with weapons; not competition fights or staged or playtime. Every one was different, requiring entirely different tactics. My personal philosphy is comprised of a few different major components:

1. Fighting must ALWAYS be the last resort. ALWAYS.
2. Soul > Mind > Body
3. Before you perform a single action in an encounter, you should have complete understanding of how the engagement will progress.
4. There should never be a reason to need more than one attack, or series of attacks with purpose.
5. Once a fight is engaged, it is for your life, and the only way to guarantee your safety is to win, no matter what that takes.
6. The point of taking an action in combat is to end the confrontation. If your action does not directly contribute to that goal, it is not a good action to take.


Does this work? Well, the last time I was struck in combat (beyond taking a blow on the arm purposefully or something similar), was when I was 14. I'm 32 now. 80-90% of my fights have been between 14 and 32.

Note the bold parts. You are either a liar or you don't practice what you preach. 500 fights? You are either a punk ass or an idiot if you've been in that many actual non-staged fights. Bouncers at the worst nightclubs don't get in that many fights.
Way to be a hypocrite.

Please don't be ignorant on my time. I have worked security since leaving the military at age 22. One of my jobs was at a regional hospital, which is perhaps the single most intensive security position a person can have. Our average number of assault responses in a given year topped 700 (documented in incident reports, which is why I know so closely how many fights I've been in), and I woked there for some time. Granted, many of those combats were fairly one sided, like in the case of an elderly alzheimers patient. However, having the county detox tank and mental lock-down facility on site provided many other opportunities for perfecting self-defense practices. Add to this jobs working patrol security, alarm response, fugitive retrieval...you get the idea. I have many friends with similar numbers of incidents. It's not uncommon. Just because most people turn a blind eye to what really goes on every day in society is no reason to make broad uneducated statements.

I mean really, ask a cop in a city with a population over 250k how many times he's had to fight/restrain someone in 20 years. There's your answer.

You beat up an old guy with alzheimers!?!?!?! You sick fvck!

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
If the guy is tickleish, there is nothing that you can do to him that will knock him down and render him useless more effectively than digging your fingers into his flanks and wiggling them about.

I have a friend that I used to fight with alot, in a friendly way, and if things were ever going sour for me I just played that trump card.

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
The only way to guarantee avoiding injury is to not be in the fight at all. If the fight cannot be avoided the best way to avoid injury is respond correctly to the situation. This requires years of training and education. There is no such thing as a 'good move', it doesn't exist.

I have been in over 500 actual melee fights, both hand to hand and with weapons; not competition fights or staged or playtime. Every one was different, requiring entirely different tactics. My personal philosphy is comprised of a few different major components:

1. Fighting must ALWAYS be the last resort. ALWAYS.
2. Soul > Mind > Body
3. Before you perform a single action in an encounter, you should have complete understanding of how the engagement will progress.
4. There should never be a reason to need more than one attack, or series of attacks with purpose.
5. Once a fight is engaged, it is for your life, and the only way to guarantee your safety is to win, no matter what that takes.
6. The point of taking an action in combat is to end the confrontation. If your action does not directly contribute to that goal, it is not a good action to take.


Does this work? Well, the last time I was struck in combat (beyond taking a blow on the arm purposefully or something similar), was when I was 14. I'm 32 now. 80-90% of my fights have been between 14 and 32.

Note the bold parts. You are either a liar or you don't practice what you preach. 500 fights? You are either a punk ass or an idiot if you've been in that many actual non-staged fights. Bouncers at the worst nightclubs don't get in that many fights.
Way to be a hypocrite.

Please don't be ignorant on my time. I have worked security since leaving the military at age 22. One of my jobs was at a regional hospital, which is perhaps the single most intensive security position a person can have. Our average number of assault responses in a given year topped 700 (documented in incident reports, which is why I know so closely how many fights I've been in), and I woked there for some time. Granted, many of those combats were fairly one sided, like in the case of an elderly alzheimers patient. However, having the county detox tank and mental lock-down facility on site provided many other opportunities for perfecting self-defense practices. Add to this jobs working patrol security, alarm response, fugitive retrieval...you get the idea. I have many friends with similar numbers of incidents. It's not uncommon. Just because most people turn a blind eye to what really goes on every day in society is no reason to make broad uneducated statements.

I mean really, ask a cop in a city with a population over 250k how many times he's had to fight/restrain someone in 20 years. There's your answer.

You beat up an old guy with alzheimers!?!?!?! You sick fvck!

Heheheh, no, but there were a few that we would have liked to.

Still, when someone starts attacking people, even when it's caused by dementia, you have no choice but to prevent them from injuring anyone else. That means combat. Fortunately they're usually so old that you can easily restrain them and tie them down until they regain their composure, or until the ativan takes effect at least. You often feel bad doing it, but that doesn't really matter, there is NO other alternative. Violence must be stopped. Always.

A hospital is not really a very nice place. The people are overworked and understaffed and under tremendous pressure. The people who are patients or visitors are likewise stressed, and tempers flair. Medical people tend not to defend themselves though, they're often softies who just want to help others. That means someone has to be there to prevent injury.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
I usually carry a switch blade with the screw loose enough so that I can flick it open. If I ever get into trouble, I hope the sight of a 6'4" guy with a switch blade would be enough to cause most poeple to just walk away. If not, a kick to the nuts.

Pulling a weapon that you are not ready to use to it's fullest potential is stupid.

 

[yllus]

Tiger uppercut.

 

[Kroze]

I heard the Dragon Uppercut is very deadly. Cause like 25% damage and you're invincible on the first couple of frames of the movement.

 

[z0mb13]

BANGKOK!

 

[konakona]

you need to watch sexy commando gaiden... sexy commando is the most beautiful and the most effective form of martial arts ever

 

[JoeKing]

90% of all real fights end up on the ground grappling.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: JoeKing
90% of all real fights end up on the ground grappling.

100% true.

 

[KnickNut3]

"Mommy!"

 

[zener]

My understanding of fighting is that the martial arts today derive from the shao lin martial art. And even tho it trains for defense, it is a matter of developing your own style so after many years of training, I would probably smile perty and hit him with my purse!!

 

[Tetsuo]

motion like i'm taking off my backpack with my left...then nail him with my right

 

[LtPage1]

depends on the circumstances. if were talking a fight to cause serious damage, strike to the throat. if were talking serious damage, but no death, kick out a knee. etc.