Best Deadbolt Lock?

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1sikbITCH

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Instead of spending a couple hundred on locks, consider spending that or less covering your entrances with cameras and then you can just record him as he picks whatever lock you were going to buy that wasn't going to stop him anyhow.

At least point a webcam at the door and have Yawcam email you a snapshot.
 

FallenHero

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Of all the burglaries ive seen and investigated, almost no one breaks a window (although that is the weak point if you can't get door access)

I've seen a grand total of 2 front doors that weren't able to be kicked in. In both instances, the burglar just went to the back door and easily entered through that. Breaking windows makes a ton of noise, creates a hazard for the criminal, and looks pretty obvious.
 

exdeath

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ICF walls, spancrete roof, laminated polycarbonate windows (the kind they make polar bear aquariums with), and steel vault doors/ram proof fully perimeter welded secuity doors vs steel jambs in the ICF. Otherwise wasting time, anyone can kick in some stucco and drywall.

Burglars and SWAT teams alike will be doing the WTF head scratch.
 
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John Connor

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Or you could buy a telephone long lines bunker. There's one out in California for sale for 500 thousand that I would love to get my mits on. Silos are often full of water, rusty and need tons of work. Do silos and bunkers withstand a nuke blast, not directly. Only a near by blast. But to tell you the truth the long lines bunker I was looking at has a room built on springs for what had the computer equipment. Maybe the yield of nukes has gone up and the survivability isn't there anymore.

How many of you like me own a lock pick set? I need to get my license so I'm legit. Get caught with it and it's a felony.
 

exdeath

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How many of you like me own a lock pick set? I need to get my license so I'm legit. Get caught with it and it's a felony.

I used to make them out of hacksaw blades.

Not illegal to own here, it's just a piece of metal unless there is use or intent to use for shady purposes.
 

Howard

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That is not bumping in the traditional sense of a burglar who possesses only average skills.
So a lock is bumpable only if it can be bumped by a burglar possessing average lock bumping skills?

You serious?
 

John Connor

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I used to make them out of hacksaw blades.

Not illegal to own here, it's just a piece of metal unless there is use or intent to use for shady purposes.


Hack saw blades make great picks so I've read. I own a set called "Just Picks." They have plastic handels and are better to hold.



http://boingboing.net/2009/05/31/profile-of-the-lock-.html

I bumped a pad lock with a key that fit the wards but wouldn't open.
 

Charlie98

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Also remember that many lower end gun safes are easily opened with a reciprocating saw from the side.

True that. We went to a safe warehouse to fetch a document safe for my FIL, the guy there let me wander around in the back and he showed me the cut up safes. Punch a hole with a drill, cut out a port with a Sawzall, in. He said about half of the safes I was looking at were from retail stores selling cell phones. Never would have thought...

On the flip side... I replaced my front door this past weekend. One of the features was a 'reinforced bolt section,' which meant they stapled a 4x6" stamped sheet steel piece to the back of the jamb. Pure nonsense. Meh... if you want in my house, all you have to do is break the back door window and walk in, or swift kick any of the doors... they won't stop a determined person. We have double deadbolts on all 3 of our exterior doors...that should slow the thief down for about 12 seconds... ^_^
 

johnsid

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Instead of wasting your time to unlock manually try lock pick gun. A Lock pick gun is designed to open locks without much knowledge and experience in lock picking. A lock picking gun is also called a snap gun and thanks its working action to letting the pins in a lock open simultaneously, after which they can be opened with the help of a tension tool.
 

Murloc

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Instead of wasting your time to unlock manually try lock pick gun. A Lock pick gun is designed to open locks without much knowledge and experience in lock picking. A lock picking gun is also called a snap gun and thanks its working action to letting the pins in a lock open simultaneously, after which they can be opened with the help of a tension tool.
so you're going to give me a free one?
or do I get an ipod
 

Doppel

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Most door frames are so weak a relatively strong child can kick the door in, and I'm not kidding. Go look at your door. A tiny sliver of wood is all that the deadbolt will go across.

Put up signs saying the house has security and is under surveillance and get a camera or two.
 

RossMAN

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Great. but there are still mechanical keys so it can still be picked.

and I wonder how well the integrated camera works at night if your porch light is off?

or how well it's protected against the elements?
 

Midwayman

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You don't have to have the most secure house on the block, just not the least. I'd figure a few cameras and an alarm system would go further than most thing you can do to actually prevent entry other than basic stuff like a door bar on the sliding doors, and some sort of deadbolt.
 

sourceninja

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Instead of a deadbolt, this is what I have:

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I've seen "It takes a thief" we can defeat that with peanut butter.
 

Ichinisan

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OK, OK, home security with alarms and Plexiglas windows could be another thread. My question was really just asking for a GREAT DEADBOLT LOCK and what recommendations people had. Medeco seems to have the highest quality locks, but there appear to be a few other companies that make a reasonable lock too.

A neighbor’s son is back from prison. He was sent away for 3 years for burglary. His MO was lock picking. I think he looked at it like a challenge. Currently I have builder’s grade locks (cheap $15 locks) on my home and would prefer to upgrade, now. I only have a front door and back door. Both doors are quality steel residential doors filled with insulation, with no windows by the doors. Windows on the house are higher than normal making it very awkward to gain entrance by window.

What I was specifically looking for was either magnetic or some type of unusual type key/lock that cannot easily be picked or bumped. In these days of hard times and desperation and YouTube showing how easy it is to pick and bump locks, I would prefer a GREAT DEADBOLT LOCK on my front and back door. On my particular home, this is currently the weakest link.

If I had been in jail for 3 years on a robbery conviction and just got out, I probably wouldn't want to do anything that would send me back there.
 

datalink7

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I've seen "It takes a thief" we can defeat that with peanut butter.

You could try. He doesn't like peanut butter.

He actually doesn't really like food at all. I've seen him spit out steak. He won't eat a french fry. I put his breakfast down on the floor before I head to work, and it is still there when I return.

He pretty much only eats to replace calories. So when I go on a run with him, he then comes back an eats. He's never begged for food once in his life, even as a puppy.

Made him a bit difficult to train at first as he wasn't interested in the treats I was buying. I then figured out he has a very high drive to go after things and chase things. So I used a ball to train him. The reward for doing something was that he got to chase the ball. Worked out well.
 
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Medeco can't be bumped and remains far more pick resistant than any purely mechanical mainstream mechanical key lock.

Just received two new Medeco Maxum deadbolts that were made in 2014. Almost all the videos that show how to bump a Maxum were uploaded around 2009/2010 give or take. I figured the 2014's were bump proof cause Medeco probrably saw the videos and updated the technology.

I just called Medeco and spoke to two tech's in Medeco's tech department - Jason and Dan.

Jason and Dan told me the last time Medeco updated the Maxum's technology was way back in 2007. I might return the Maxum's, get a refund, and buy a couple of Abloy's. Medeco corporate appears to not care. Special thanks to Jason and Dan for being honest.

The truth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOIRZnafgQk
http://boingboing.net/2009/05/31/profile-of-the-lock-.html
Are you kidding me lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbw1G7F0Nmc
 
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