Best Deadbolt Lock?

[phucheneh]

I vote for 'move out of the bad neighborhood in a third-world country currently in the midst of civil war.'

'Well, that lock is okay...but will my front door resist a direct RPG hit?'

 

[Schmide]

Even burglars don't want to see you pooing.

 

[Red Squirrel]

loooool

 

[John Connor]

Full disclosure - I can tell you that I pick locks and your front door is not where I would enter. I would go into the back yard and enter the patio. Do you keep a rod in the patio door?

If you can find a lock that uses master and slave keys then your good because those are a bitch to pick because of the duel tumblers. Pick guns are somewhat successful on those.

 

[John Connor]

I was giving this topic some more thought while I had a cigarette. The dead bolt you want is called an interchangeable core lock. Those are a bitch to pick. But like I said pick guns are somewhat successful. A lock with a keypad works too.

I would also mount a chain lock on the door. Don't use the included screws instead buy some longer screws and use those just make sue you measure the thickness of the door first before you screw them in. I failed to do that and ended up taking a cut off wheel to the ends of the screws on the other side of the door and filling with wood putty. No one is going to be able to kick down a door with that on.

The path to least resistance is where I would look. Windows and the patio door are paths to least resistance. Consider a patio door stopper. This is placed on the inside in the track of the door. Windows are a prime target. If you have trees or bushes in front of windows that are low to the ground I would trim them back. Don't leave ladders laying around. Since windows are a path and iron bars are an eye sore I would consider getting an alarm. This will not only prevent non-pros from breaking into your house but in some cases reduce your insurance. But to the pro all one has to do is cut the phone and cable lines, break in and smash the keypad. A cellular system is what is needed but I'm not sure if they offer something like that. Even then one could use a portable cell jammer.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Patio-Sliding-Glass-Door-Security&id=4543546

http://www.ehow.com/way_5170657_way-sliding-glass-patio-doors.html

These are a bitch to pick. ----> http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/sfic/

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/K2-COMMERCIAL-HARDWARE-Deadbolt-Less-Cylinder-2WJG6

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MORNING-IND...506?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e7b3957ea

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Morning-Ind...663?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0c92d307

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schlage-B66...247?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aba5aa3c7

http://www.ebay.com/itm/medeco-keym...256?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac4ef1330

 

[sdifox]

Unless you have a proper doorjamb it is pointless to replace deadbolt.

 

[Strk]

I'd worry less about someone picking the lock and more about the door getting kicked in. The door can be made out of a solid piece of steal, but the jambs on most doors are still finger-jointed pine, which isn't very hard to break.

 

[Blackjack200]

Thread delivers.

LOL @ the sawzall and go through a wall people. It will NOT be 5 minutes to go through siding AND sheathing AND studs AND insulation AND drywall. It WILL be obvious what you're doing and that you're not there to fix anything.

Door getting "kicked in" is less ridiculous but still not a concern. Unless you are very strong, you won't be kicking in an exterior grade door. Interior doors are much lighter and their locks are far weaker, so they're a different story. French doors (glass doors with multiple lights) might fail, especially older ones.

The double cylinder deadbolt idea might be the worst of all. How does that help?

 

[edro]

Just buy a good lock. If the motherfuckers want in badly enough, they're going to get in. A lock isn't going to stop them.

Locks only keep out the honest people.

...and the petty thieves and crack heads who aren't smart enough to break in another way.

I lock doors hoping that if they have to break the door or window open, I will hear it, giving me time to get my gun.

 

[rsutoratosu]

Full disclosure - I can tell you that I pick locks and your front door is not where I would enter. I would go into the back yard and enter the patio. Do you keep a rod in the patio door?

If you can find a lock that uses master and slave keys then your good because those are a bitch to pick because of the duel tumblers. Pick guns are somewhat successful on those.

If I knew you were coming, I leave a bunch of t1000 in the house

 

[MontyAC]

You want something like this to secure the door from break-ins:

Or this, 4 way bolt:

http://www.kaploss.com/products/MPPoliceLocks.aspx

 

[VulgarDisplay]

Thread delivers.

LOL @ the sawzall and go through a wall people. It will NOT be 5 minutes to go through siding AND sheathing AND studs AND insulation AND drywall. It WILL be obvious what you're doing and that you're not there to fix anything.

Door getting "kicked in" is less ridiculous but still not a concern. Unless you are very strong, you won't be kicking in an exterior grade door. Interior doors are much lighter and their locks are far weaker, so they're a different story. French doors (glass doors with multiple lights) might fail, especially older ones.

The double cylinder deadbolt idea might be the worst of all. How does that help?

I built houses for 10 years. It would be less than 5 minutes to get through the wall. More like 60 seconds. You severely overestimate the strength of 1/2 inch plywood and drywall, and you don't need to cut any studs unless you are so fat you can't fit through 16 in.

Its easy enough to put a hammer through plywood too.

 

[TheSlamma]

I built houses for 10 years. It would be less than 5 minutes to get through the wall. More like 60 seconds. You severely overestimate the strength of 1/2 inch plywood and drywall, and you don't need to cut any studs unless you are so fat you can't fit through 16 in.

Its easy enough to put a hammer through plywood too.

I had a friend who worked construction to pay for his expenses through college, he used to say the exact same thing. Don't go through the door on new houses those are solid, go through the walls!

 

[John Connor]

Think for a second, how many people have gone through the wall?? LMAO!

 

[Blackjack200]

I built houses for 10 years. It would be less than 5 minutes to get through the wall. More like 60 seconds. You severely overestimate the strength of 1/2 inch plywood and drywall, and you don't need to cut any studs unless you are so fat you can't fit through 16 in.

Yeah, you built houses for 10 years? How many times when you're building houses do you need to cut through the exterior wall all the way through to the interior with a fucking sawzall? That's just not part of the process. On the other hand, if you remodel, like I did, albeit not for 10 years, you end up using sawzalls for lots of different kinds of demo work. Just getting through the siding and sheathing alone would be way more than 10 minutes. You're talking about getting up on a ladder (since most houses are a couple of feet above grade and making two six foot sawzall cuts. And that's assuming you even know where the studs are. LMAO. Just stop.

I had a friend who worked construction to pay for his expenses through college, he used to say the exact same thing. Don't go through the door on new houses those are solid, go through the walls!

Your friend is an idiot.

 

[Blackjack200]

Its easy enough to put a hammer through plywood too.

Lol, ok. Let's say it is. Now you've got a 1" diameter hole in the plywood, what are you going to do with that? Just be honest, you've never really done demo work, have you? You might be confusing 1/2 inch plywood with 1/4".

 

[Murloc]

Kaba star locks are standard here, there are no external doors without this.

The result is that thieves always enter from windows.

I'd say get an alarm system and CCTV, that will discourage the small timers at least, unless you get specifically targeted because you're rich they'll probably try other houses first since deactivating this stuff takes time/planning.
Get bars for the ground floor windows if you don't have any glass entryways.

I had never heard about thieves cutting through the walls, but almost all houses have real walls here.

 

[John Connor]

I seen a thief saw his fucking ass through a brick wall :whiste:

 

[tynopik]

His MO was lock picking. I think he looked at it like a challenge.

So . . . aren't you going about this the wrong way? Getting a new super-secure deadbolt would just be a new irresistible toy/challenge for him.

remove all deadbolts, therefore there's no challenge for him and he won't bother

 

[Howard]

I figured I had seen this already.

 

[bryanl]

Medeco can't be bumped and remains far more pick resistant than any purely mechanical mainstream mechanical key lock.

 

[Fayd]

I built houses for 10 years. It would be less than 5 minutes to get through the wall. More like 60 seconds. You severely overestimate the strength of 1/2 inch plywood and drywall, and you don't need to cut any studs unless you are so fat you can't fit through 16 in.

Its easy enough to put a hammer through plywood too.

the houses i saw being built here had no plywood on the exterior wall. sheetrock, insulation/voidspace between studs, tarpaper stapled to the outside, then the chicken wire to adhere the stucco mixture to.

if you can fit between 16 on center studs and have a hammer and a pair of dikes, you can be in fairly quick.

 

[Howard]

Medeco can't be bumped

http://boingboing.net/2009/05/31/profile-of-the-lock-.html

 

[phucheneh]

You know what's as effective as these expensive locks?

Seriously, people. You are lying to yourself (or just dumb) if you think an expensive lock is doing something for you. Common criminals are just going to ignore a locked door and either move on to an unlocked house, or find a different way in. And the extremely rare criminals with combinations of skill, intelligence, tactfullness, ect...well, they're probably not going to be randomly breaking into your house. You are not as special as you think. These guys are not plotting a heist from your residence:

 

[edro]

Also remember that many lower end gun safes are easily opened with a reciprocating saw from the side.