Best Car (including sports cars, vans, etc)

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thebestMAX

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How about a car that you can live with everyday, a grocery getter that blows the doors off most everything on the road, comfortable and under 30K.

Try a TRANS AM especially with the new RAM AIR.
Have has 6 Vettes and couldnt drive the last one 20 miles without my back killing me. Hear the new ones are better.
My friend has a '93 King of the Hill. ((so does Gordon Liddy) and a 66 Shelby Cobra and a 91 ford SHO. Hows that for a mix?

Like a lot of the overseas jobs but am still hung up with the big V-8 and its sounds. GMs only, of course.
 

bigbootydaddy

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well,college kid, limited budget, so i got one of the fastest imports under 20k in the civic si, comfty, vtec, blah blah, if i had the money i say the car to get is like a sc400, sporty and classy, or a m3, perfect for the draggers
 

DaBoneHead

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Best car ever was easily my 1980 Volvo 244 DL. It had 540,000 miles on it when the body rusted out. Engine never burned a drop of oil. And even then sold it for $650 as a parts car...

Oh wait... I thought you said Best Quality Car...

:D
 

jclark

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Obviously, none of you have ever driven a Triumph TR8. When you take a body that looks like this, and put in a 3.5L aluminum V8 (that's externally virtually identical to the 4.6L block used in late model Range Rovers, can be swapped in an afternoon, can be bored & stroked to 5.2L, and weighs less than many iron 4-cyls) looks like nothing else on the road (well, except a TR7), and is available for under $10K in showroom condition, you end up with a car that's unique, sexy, adequately fast (until you put the 4.6 in, when it becomes obscenely fast), and incredibly comforatble and fun to drive. Plus, by owning one, you avoid spending $39K on a rebadged-and-leather-trimmed Camry that has no soul.

Now I know most of you will read this and laugh. "A 20-year-old British car? One of only 2500 produced? One that I'd have to work on myself, even though I don't yet know how, because any mechanic willing to work on the car will rape me because of it's rarity, even though it's sipmler than working on a 2001 Escort?" But at least one of you will see the TR8 for the beauty that it is, and my work will not have been in vain. For the rest of you: go ahead, laugh. Drive your Lexus or BMW or (snicker) Navigator and be happy in the knowlege that you and your credit card can drive into any mechanic in town to fix that "funny noise - I'm not sure what it is - can you please charge me $500 to tighten down that loose tailpipe hangar?" But find a TR8, and take it for a drive before you die, so that filled with shame and regret for the years you've wasted driving other cars, you can apologize to me, beg forgiveness, and plead for me to help diagnose that "funny noise".
 

Josh

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Hmm...the best car, actually, in my opinion would hafta be a FREE car! I don't think anyone can disagree with me on this one, even if I do like Pokemon :D
 

DABANSHEE

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Hey JClark, You're better off putting a 4.4 litre Leyland P76/Leyland Terrier Truck alloy V8 engine in. Those Leyland V8s were exactly the same as the Buick Rover alloy V8, but they had a block that was slightly larger (which meant if one was to use a Buick or Rover inlet manifold in it, one would need spacers on each side of it, between the manifold & the 2 Heads). As such it has the potential to be bored/stroked up to about 5.6 litres, while the Buick/Rover versions really only have the potential to go not much further than about 4.7 litres.

Also the 4.4 litre Leyland varient had the rockers mounted on stud bolts rather than on shafts, so if one wants to do a roller rocker conversion, one could use a slightly modified Roller rocker kit for GM small blocks (Holden or Chev). Plus the bottom end was much tougher as they were designed for Leyland Terrier Trucks, plus as they were designed & built in Australia for Hot Aussie conditions, the water passages are wider so they stay cool better. They also come with a twin plan manifold designed for normal downdraught carbies (such as Stombergs & Carters), so its a simple matter to modify it for a 2 Barrel Holley 350/500. Either by using an adaptor plate or through a bit of grounding out & alloy welding, but its best to keep the dual inlets under the carby seperated, so one doesn't loose the twin plane effect (where each cylinder in the firing order takes its fuel from the opposing carby barrel), which aids low down torque tremendously, without effecting revs too much. My P76 manifold was adapted to take a Holley 650 4 barrel (vac secondaries, the extra 2 barrels only go into action when rev it) without much hassle. If one was to do such a conversion its best to dyno-tune it & re-jet the carbie to match the engine, to get the best efficiency & power. The Terrier varient has a low reving torquie cam, so it really should be re-ground.
 

thebestMAX

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Hey JCLARK,

Your ride sounds like you would love a Sunbeam Tiger. You almost wear them with the v-8 in your crotch.

Went to a few car shows in Canada this years and they have their own division. They were hot.

Check em out if you can find one.
 

Corn

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I thought my Audi S4 was the best car when I bought it.

One year later and now I know it's the best car.

German engineering, stealthy good looks, all wheel drive, 6 speed manual trans, twin turbo 5 valve/cylinder V6 that pulls like a mutha. Damn, now I want to go out for a drive.......
 

jclark

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DABANSHEE -

Unlike the 4.4 P76 block, 4.6 Rover blocks can (occasionally) be found in junkyards in the US. :) My 3.9 has been converted from Strombergs to SUs to GM TBI, but I've considered going with a programmable TPI system in the future. For now, I'm busy saving my pennies for a new 5.2 from RPI and happily watching the British pound drop in value while I do body work. :) There sure doesn't seem to be much room for further boring on that block, and the crank used in the 5.2 is HUGE. I know the P76 blocks were a little taller than the standard block (didn't know the intakes were different) but do they really have enough room to stroke another almost half-liter out of them?
 

DABANSHEE

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JClark, the inlets are exactly the same but as the blokck is slightly larger, the heads are ever so wider apart, so one needs a spacer plate on each side of the manifold between it & the 2 heads.

There's a business near Amaroo Park Race Way in Sydney, that specialises in re-conditioning & building Rover & Leyland alloy V8S. I'll try & find the URL for you, if they have one. I think they have the option of taking the Rover up to arround 5.1 litres & the Leyland has the option of being taken up to about 5.6 litres. But its better not to take it up to its maximum capacity potential.

Also someone in New Zealand makes twin plan 4 barrel manifolds, & 8 port manifolds for quad downdraught twin-webers (dellorto). I've heard of a crossflow 8 port inlet manifold for quad sidedraught twin webers (where the webers for the left bank are above the right bank & vice-ser-versa), but I take that with a grain of salt.

The best setup is Haltech/Motech 8 port electronic fuel injection using a modified quad downdraught twin-wber manifold. The best value setup is a dyno-rejeted Holley 350 or 500 2 barrel on a modified production twin plane manifold.

I'll try & find some URLs for you.
 

ElFenix

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1. McLaren Formula 1 car
2. KOOL Green car
3. Ferrari 550 Maranello/Porsche 911 Turbo
5. lozer's integra type r (somehow its got about 300 more hp and ft-lbs than all the rest of them)
 

geno

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<< The Nissan Skyline looks like the ultimate ricer... >>


Half of the people around here say that about anything that comes out of Japan. Truth is, this is one of the strongest cars to come out of Japan, and it'd beat the crap out of just about any other car - it's a monster plain and simple. Bring on your Porsches, bring on your BMW's and bring on your Viper GTSs ;[/b]), this car will ruin em all...
 

SuperGroove

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Ferrari 550 Maranello(all around car)
Ferrari 360 Modena(weekend car)
Ferrari 355 Spyder(summer car)
Porsche 911 993 Carrera 4(winter car)
'90 Corrado w/Lysholm Supercharger(realistic car). up to 20lb of boost, rev up to 7K RPM safely...say good by to the unreliable G60s(yet quiet) of yore! 200HP+ in a 2,600lb car. VROOOOOM!

Paul
 

DABANSHEE

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It certainly will, Genocide, the GTR was designed for one purpose only, to homogulate all the mods on the Group A Skyline (except the allowed ones that didn't need homogulation/production certification). As such it will piss all over virtually any other car, whether from Italy, Germany or the US, except for maybe other homogulation specials.

You have to remember the 'Group A' racing class was replaced as the premier 'Touring Car' (basically must have rear seats) race series by the '2 litre Tourers' (such as BTCC), basically because the GTR was too good.