Benchmarking R9 290 vs. 780 vs. 780 Ti - Stock and Overclocked

Termie

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I thought some of you might like another installment in my series of stock v. OC benchmarks, this time focusing on the Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X. I compare it here to an EVGA GTX 780 SC and a reference EVGA GTX 780 Ti, with benchmarks for reference clocks, as-shipped clocks, and overclocked clocks on each card, where applicable.

Note that unlike the GeForce cards, the R9 290 has meaningful voltage adjustment (on the GeForces, extra voltage often results in LOWER clocks due to the aggressive power cap on those cards). That being said, I was not interested in taking the voltage over +.05, due to the extra heat and power use. There likely is more on tap, but you'll have to turn to other reviewers for the extreme Radeon overclocks.

Another two notes on my testing:
(1) Catalyst 14.6 beta was causing me lots of blackscreens at idle. Not good for extended benchmarking sessions, so that got scrapped. Used 14.4 instead, which was perfect.
(2) I did not bench BF4 with Mantle. Treason? No, just being reasonable. First, Mantle does not produce the same quality, in my opinion, but more importantly, it led to significant graphical anomalies, like swimming under ground. It's just not doing the same thing as DX11, so it's not an apples-to-apples comparison. No matter - the R9 290 was awesome in BF4 anyway.

With that out of the way, here are the benchmarks:
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3DMark is much better at comparing cards within one family than cards across families or manufacturers. I use it to establish stable overclock settings (along with Crysis 3). Anyway, you can see here that the R9 290 performs well (and scales well).

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This game is somewhat CPU-limited at 1080p, and yet the R9 290 pulls way ahead. A sign of things to come with other CPU-limited games???

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Again, at 1080p, Hitman is very CPU-limited, but the R9 290 puts up huge numbers, beating even the OC'd 780 Ti. Impressive.

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Uh, oh, here's an AMD title and the R9 290 gets cut down to size. Not quite keeping up with the GTX 780. Ironic!

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Another AMD title, and another loss for the R9 290 - AMD should stick to making GPUs rather than supporting game titles! By the way, I don't include minimums here because the benchmark doesn't report correct figures for that due to scene changes.

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Excellent performance here, going head-to-head with the more expensive GTX 780. Note that at 1080p, the game is CPU-bottlenecked, even on a highly-overclock i7, and yet the R9 290 is pulling ahead even there, other than in minimums. Focus on the 1440p results to get a feel for the actual performance of the cards.

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Wow, wow, wow! No artificial Mantle-enhanced performance here. This is pure DX11 domination. Note that this is the single-player game, which avoids lots of inconsistency and CPU-bottlenecking, but this is also BF4, after all, which has been patched, patched, and patched again. I'm hoping DICE does less on the single-player side, but to the extent the engine has been optimized, the newer benches on the R9 290 may not be directly comparable to ones I generated previously for the GeForces.

The difference in this game was so significant that I actually played better in the game - it was that much smoother, especially at 1440p.

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[UPDATE:] At stock volts (1.07V), this card was actually quite efficient, about matching the GTX 780. But when overvolting, power ramps up. Just to get to 1100MHz (a 153MHz OC over stock), I had to accept a big increase in power consumption due to the extra voltage (1.12V). The card runs perfectly at 1075MHz without extra voltage, and honestly, that's how I'll run it other than for benching.

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Overall impressions:
(1) The R9 290 was a watershed card when it was "released" at $400. Now that it's actually available around that price with a great cooler, it is simply awe-inspiring.
(2) The Tri-X is the quietest gaming card I've ever used. Temps never went above 75C even with a big overclock and extra voltage, and yet it wasn't any louder than my case fans.
(3) The R9 290 doesn't use nearly as much power as I thought it would based on reviews - it's actually fairly efficient, as long as you don't touch the voltage.
(4) Performance is fantastic, but it's very game-dependent. When people say "OMG, the R9 290 beats an OC'd 780 Ti!", you have to take it with a grain of salt. Overall, the OC'd R9 290 does in fact match a stock 780 Ti, but so does an OC'd 780. Now, I only took my 290 to 1100MHz (a 16% OC over reference 290s), but the voltage required to go much above that means only certain users will be interested in tapping that 780 Ti-beating performance. And the 780 Ti actually overclocks better. :)
 
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Leadbox

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AMD should stick to making GPUs rather than supporting game titles!
More like they should stop playing fairly with their sponsored titles and have in them some of that :ninja:
 

Termie

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Thanks for all the work and the info!

How did you measure power consumption?

I took a reading right at the end of the 3DMark Fire Strike Combined benchmark, which is a maximum reading - that's the highest-power draw in the entire benchmark.

In routine gaming, I found that the system drew about 310-320W without extra voltage, so the 3DMark numbers are actually pretty representative.
 

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I took a reading right at the end of the 3DMark Fire Strike Combined benchmark, which is a maximum reading - that's the highest-power draw in the entire benchmark.

In routine gaming, I found that the system drew about 310-320W without extra voltage, so the 3DMark numbers are actually pretty representative.

Sorry I meant what did you use to measure power draw? Kill-a-Watt? Something else?
 

skipsneeky2

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Assuming a 290 can tank into the 50s in BF4 multiplayer with same settings as sp? Given much thought to a 290 but on paper it looks like a weak upgrade from my 2gb 770 but this card tanks very hard so i run high settings to keep in the 60+ zone.

Overall nice job on the review.
 

Kenmitch

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Your results look great! Only missing a overall performance vs $'s chart....Guess it's not too hard to figure out what the outcome would be. :)

Your Dirt3 results at 1080P confirmed my theory that I'm cpu limited.

I was testing my Tri-X with every graphic option maxed and 8xMSAA as it's still butter smooth anyways. My minimums wouldn't climb with a gpu overclock, the average would climb a little 4-5fps....Only running a i5-4570.
 

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That is a pretty weak overclock on the tri-x. Adjust your fan profile a bit and crank the voltage. The cooler can handle it. Even at +200mv my temps were under 75 c on the core and vrms.

For 24/7 I don't go over +80 because I hit a wall where more voltage doesn't translate to more headroom.
 

blastingcap

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Thanks OP.

When you start the y axis at zero instead of a higher number like some reviewers do, you see how small the differences can be between cards sometimes.

Basically 290's are the price/performance kings since they offer performance not too much slower than 290x/780Ti at a much lower price point. :)
 

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That is a pretty weak overclock on the tri-x. Adjust your fan profile a bit and crank the voltage. The cooler can handle it. Even at +200mv my temps were under 75 c on the core and vrms.

For 24/7 I don't go over +80 because I hit a wall where more voltage doesn't translate to more headroom.


My coworker has one (Hynix memory, too). He added 100mv and could go north of 1200MHz on the core, memory at 5800. He got it on a Memorial Day sale for $380, quite a bit of performance for the money.

Nice benches OP! Nice collection of video cards you have there. :)
 

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Awesome as always Termie :thumbsup: I guess you need to buy a 290X, and you will have had every high-end card this generation. Great comparison.
 

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Hawaii has massive shader power, both the XT and PRO versions. I think the only thing that is helping Nvidia is their tesselation performance.
 

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Thanks for the write-up Termie. Always look forward to seeing your bench threads.
 

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That is a pretty weak overclock on the tri-x. Adjust your fan profile a bit and crank the voltage. The cooler can handle it. Even at +200mv my temps were under 75 c on the core and vrms.

For 24/7 I don't go over +80 because I hit a wall where more voltage doesn't translate to more headroom.

I'm fairly conscious of the power draw while gaming, and at 50mV, I'm already near my OC'd 780 Ti. I can't really imagine what it would be like at 200mV.

So, yes, there's more on tap, but I wasn't going for an extreme overclock, just a reasonable one that most people could attain.

Thanks OP.

When you start the y axis at zero instead of a higher number like some reviewers do, you see how small the differences can be between cards sometimes.

Basically 290's are the price/performance kings since they offer performance not too much slower than 290x/780Ti at a much lower price point. :)

I actually switched to using a zeroed y-axis based on a comment in a previous thread - maybe it was yours!
 
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I'm fairly conscious of the power draw while gaming, and at 50mV, I'm already near my OC'd 780 Ti. I can't really imagine what it would be like at 200mV.

So, yes, there's more on tap, but I wasn't going for an extreme overclock, just a reasonable one that most people could attain.


The HSF does great at stock volts. That's where I prefer to keep mine as well. Quiet, no throttling, and low temps.

Bumping up volts gives more speed but it also sacrifices a lot IMO. The Tri-x cooler is nice because it gives options, stock volts and very quiet cool operation, but it will also work for large volt increases if the user will accept higher noise and temps.


Great write up and game selection and chart build.

Given the cards price points I think a chart for performance per dollar would drive the point home about what these cards are offering vs competition. This becomes difficult if using the entire line if cards due to wild price differences, so I'd just stick to prices of the cards evaluated.
 

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Firstly, that was a nice review, it is appreciated. It's interesting to see how well those cards actually scale with clock speeds. You could almost draw a line and see how they would scale between measured core clocks, or potentially above the benched clocks. It shows that both sides have good potential.

I wonder what the deal with the blackscreens are. I haven't seen it with my 290x's and I've reinstalled windows as well as many of the drivers from 13.x -> 14.6. That is a poor design error.

I agree with blastingcap, the zero based graphs are valuable, and furthermore demonstrate that the 290 ($360+) is a smoking deal. It's barely over half the price of the 780 ti, yet the 780 ti can hardly beat it by mere percentage points. Sure the ti can easily beat it when OCed, however it's still on a small percentage faster, while nearly 100% more expensive. Toss in a second 290 (which actually works extremely well) and it's game over for the ti at nearly the same price. The 780 ti is a nice card, just quite overpriced for what it offers.

The tri-x seems like a great card. What is the stock voltage on it?

When running in mantle I thought there may be some slight difference (perhaps it's in the hue or something) in the image, however comparing screenshots doesn't reveal it so at this point I believe it's essentially equivalent.
 

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Excellent write-up and confirms what most of us have been voicing for a while - after-market R9 290 is an unbeatable value right now. You can buy almost 2x 290s for the price of some 780Tis - insane!

The only thing is on one of my Sapphire DX 7970s one of the fans just started making rattling noise and is spinning very slowly, causing a serious increase in temps. It looks like the Tri-X still has the same fans. I've never had any GPUs or GPU fans fail on me and this is the first card to this. Based on this, if going Radeon next round, unless Sapphire changes the fans, I'll probably consider another maker. Hope your fans don't die out before you sell your card.
 
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The power consumption results are shocking to many.

Ok, i'm already saw results like this in another post in this forum...
 

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Nice work and thanks for this review Termie. One thing I was also looking forward to in this review was hearing your comments and opinions on this Tri-X 290 since you also own and have been using the 780 and 780T. These are nice cards for the money and especially if you catch them on sale at times! :)

RS, just curious but weren't you also using your card(s) for mining?
 
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Excellent write-up and confirms what most of us have been voicing for a while - after-market R9 290 is an unbeatable value right now. You can buy almost 2x 290s for the price of some 780Tis - insane!

The only thing is on one of my Sapphire DX 7970s one of the fans just started making rattling noise and is spinning very slowly, causing a serious increase in temps. It looks like the Tri-X still has the same fans. I've never had any GPUs or GPU fans fail on me and this is the first card to this. Based on this, if going Radeon next round, unless Sapphire changes the fans, I'll probably consider another maker. Hope your fans don't die out before you sell your card.

Blastingcap has said the same of the sapphire fans. This is too bad to hear, but is it within warranty terms?
 

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I agree with blastingcap, the zero based graphs are valuable, and furthermore demonstrate that the 290 ($360+) is a smoking deal. It's barely over half the price of the 780 ti, yet the 780 ti can hardly beat it by mere percentage points. Sure the ti can easily beat it when OCed, however it's still on a small percentage faster, while nearly 100% more expensive. Toss in a second 290 (which actually works extremely well) and it's game over for the ti at nearly the same price. The 780 ti is a nice card, just quite overpriced for what it offers.

The tri-x seems like a great card. What is the stock voltage on it?

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Yeah, I'll definitely consider 290 CF down the line. Honestly can't use the power...yet.

Voltage is 1.07V, by the weay.

Nice work and thanks for this review Termie. One thing I was also looking forward to in this review was hearing your comments and opinions on this Tri-X 290 since you also own and have been using the 780 and 780T. These are nice cards for the money and especially if you catch them on sale at times! :)

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The sale prices were what got me. GTX 780 performance for 770 prices? Yes, please. The Tri-X is a better card overall than my GTX 780 SC due to lower noise at idle and at load, and at least equivalent performance at a much lower price. No question in my mind that it's what I'd recommend, assuming you can fit a 12" card.
 

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Excellent write-up and confirms what most of us have been voicing for a while - after-market R9 290 is an unbeatable value right now. You can buy almost 2x 290s for the price of some 780Tis - insane!

The only thing is on one of my Sapphire DX 7970s one of the fans just started making rattling noise and is spinning very slowly, causing a serious increase in temps. It looks like the Tri-X still has the same fans. I've never had any GPUs or GPU fans fail on me and this is the first card to this. Based on this, if going Radeon next round, unless Sapphire changes the fans, I'll probably consider another maker. Hope your fans don't die out before you sell your card.

This is somewhat amusing to me as every Sapphire card I've owned (up to the AMD 5000 series) has eventually had fan issues. Sad to see their fans continue to give people grief.