Benchmarking Firefox 3.5

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Nik
Either way, it's still faster than FF, by your own admission. Chrome > FF because it's more stable, MUCH easier to recover a bad tab (you don't have to close the entire stupid thing), isn't bloated with stupid shit like themes (because I prefer, you know, websites taking up my browser realestate not some damned pretty colors), and can block ads (check the software forum).

Chrome = WIN

There's no doubt about it, Chrome is certainly faster. Insignificantly faster for myself, but faster nonetheless. As far as stability, I, too, must disagree with your assessment. As far as themes are concerned, you're making a poor assumption that using anything besides the default theme takes up real estate, which is most definitely not the case for most themes. As for ads, I'm pretty sure Chrome needs a proxy to block ads, so Chrome isn't doing any blocking at all. Firefox, on the other hand, does not need any additional software for that. It's the beauty of plugins.

Another thing I can't stand about Chrome is how few settings it has. For example, I can't even set it to block all cookies except sites that I want to allow, which is exactly what I do with Firefox. I can't tell it not to keep any history at all (browser history, search history, etc) and clear all history upon browser close. I don't remember being able to choose to disable Java and Javascript. Chrome doesn't have the wonderful about:config that Firefox has either.

Sorry, but Chrome = FAIL.

 

[Nik]

Who needs all that crap? It's useless bloat that you spend more time customizing than you do actually browsing the web. And for what? A fucked up page layout on some sites because the site is expecting certain things to be in certain places that you end up blocking? It's just an advertisement, people. Ignoring it is much faster and much more efficient. Why bother disabling Java and Javascript when there's no real need to outside of browsing websites run by assholes? If you routinely browse malicious websites, I can see where you'd want to disable them. I'm not that dumb and Chrome handles Java and Javascript just fine anyway.

 

[Modelworks]

Chrome does have a mode that allows you to browse without leaving any history.
I'm using the Iron version of chrome. Screenshot from the incognito setting:
http://img3.yfrog.com/img3/8883/incognitob.jpg

It is as simple as selecting , new incognito page.

 

[KeypoX]

i have used ff for years. And really like the new stuff in ff3.5 but its unstable as shit.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Chrome does have a mode that allows you to browse without leaving any history.
I'm using the Iron version of chrome. Screenshot from the incognito setting:
http://img3.yfrog.com/img3/8883/incognitob.jpg

It is as simple as selecting , new incognito page.

Owned?

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Chrome does have a mode that allows you to browse without leaving any history.
I'm using the Iron version of chrome. Screenshot from the incognito setting:
http://img3.yfrog.com/img3/8883/incognitob.jpg

It is as simple as selecting , new incognito page.

Owned?

Yeah, I noticed that. What fun, having to select a special mode each and every time I start the browser. What fun. Yeah.

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Nik
Who needs all that crap? It's useless bloat that you spend more time customizing than you do actually browsing the web. And for what? A fucked up page layout on some sites because the site is expecting certain things to be in certain places that you end up blocking? It's just an advertisement, people. Ignoring it is much faster and much more efficient. Why bother disabling Java and Javascript when there's no real need to outside of browsing websites run by assholes? If you routinely browse malicious websites, I can see where you'd want to disable them. I'm not that dumb and Chrome handles Java and Javascript just fine anyway.

From this post alone, Nik, I can see you know very little when it comes to internet security, and this isn't worth the effort. Have fun now.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Chrome does have a mode that allows you to browse without leaving any history.
I'm using the Iron version of chrome. Screenshot from the incognito setting:
http://img3.yfrog.com/img3/8883/incognitob.jpg

It is as simple as selecting , new incognito page.

Owned?

Yeah, I noticed that. What fun, having to select a special mode each and every time I start the browser. What fun. Yeah.

Oh please.
It is a mouse click.
Believe it or not most people that browse at home are not worried about others at home seeing where they browsed. Most of us are not living in places that we are that paranoid.

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Chrome does have a mode that allows you to browse without leaving any history.
I'm using the Iron version of chrome. Screenshot from the incognito setting:
http://img3.yfrog.com/img3/8883/incognitob.jpg

It is as simple as selecting , new incognito page.

Owned?

Yeah, I noticed that. What fun, having to select a special mode each and every time I start the browser. What fun. Yeah.

Oh please.
It is a mouse click.
Believe it or not most people that browse at home are not worried about others at home seeing where they browsed. Most of use are not living in places that we are that paranoid.

A mouse click every time, yeah, that's an unnecessary hassle that I don't have to worry about with Firefox, now do I?

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Chrome does have a mode that allows you to browse without leaving any history.
I'm using the Iron version of chrome. Screenshot from the incognito setting:
http://img3.yfrog.com/img3/8883/incognitob.jpg

It is as simple as selecting , new incognito page.

Owned?

Hardly :^S

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/217/ffsafe.jpg

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Chrome does have a mode that allows you to browse without leaving any history.
I'm using the Iron version of chrome. Screenshot from the incognito setting:
http://img3.yfrog.com/img3/8883/incognitob.jpg

It is as simple as selecting , new incognito page.

Owned?

Yeah, I noticed that. What fun, having to select a special mode each and every time I start the browser. What fun. Yeah.

Oh please.
It is a mouse click.
Believe it or not most people that browse at home are not worried about others at home seeing where they browsed. Most of use are not living in places that we are that paranoid.

A mouse click every time, yeah, that's an unnecessary hassle that I don't have to worry about with Firefox, now do I?

You click one time and for the entire time you use the browser you are incognito on any page you pull up . What is so hard about that ?

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Chrome does have a mode that allows you to browse without leaving any history.
I'm using the Iron version of chrome. Screenshot from the incognito setting:
http://img3.yfrog.com/img3/8883/incognitob.jpg

It is as simple as selecting , new incognito page.

Owned?

Yeah, I noticed that. What fun, having to select a special mode each and every time I start the browser. What fun. Yeah.

Oh please.
It is a mouse click.
Believe it or not most people that browse at home are not worried about others at home seeing where they browsed. Most of use are not living in places that we are that paranoid.

A mouse click every time, yeah, that's an unnecessary hassle that I don't have to worry about with Firefox, now do I?

You click one time and for the entire time you use the browser you are incognito on any page you pull up . What is so hard about that ?

How about the fact that it's an an extra click that I don't need to worry about with Firefox and doesn't come close to making up for the extreme lack of options that Chrome offers? You're coming off as a serious fanboy here.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: JujuFish
From this post alone, Nik, I can see you know very little when it comes to internet security, and this isn't worth the effort. Have fun now.

My post is tongue-in-cheek. Do I have to throw an emoticon in to make that more obvious? My bad. Anyway, to put it more simply, many people have no need for such customization. Many people have different opinions about what makes a browser great because of their needs. You don't NEED to block ads, it's just a perk. You don't NEED your cache and cookies cleared obsessive compulsively every time you close your browser. You don't NEED java and javascript blocked, it's just a paranoid choice that ends up undermining valid sites that use the features J/JS provide. The fact of the matter is that there are a great many people out there browsing with no problems in IE6 and IE7 and IE8 on stable computers that don't have to worry about security or advertisements (oh NOES!! Not ADS!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!) or this or that or blah blah blah. Some of us just want to browse as fast as humanly fucking possible and we don't like waiting for slow, bulky, overloaded browsers.

However, since you seem to be the god of the fucking internet, would you please explain internet security in all its facets?

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Oh please.
It is a mouse click.
Believe it or not most people that browse at home are not worried about others at home seeing where they browsed. Most of us are not living in places that we are that paranoid.

And if they ARE that paranoid, they're probably smart enough not to be browsing places that they need to cover their tracks about.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Chrome does have a mode that allows you to browse without leaving any history.
I'm using the Iron version of chrome. Screenshot from the incognito setting:
http://img3.yfrog.com/img3/8883/incognitob.jpg

It is as simple as selecting , new incognito page.

Owned?

Yeah, I noticed that. What fun, having to select a special mode each and every time I start the browser. What fun. Yeah.

Oh please.
It is a mouse click.
Believe it or not most people that browse at home are not worried about others at home seeing where they browsed. Most of use are not living in places that we are that paranoid.

A mouse click every time, yeah, that's an unnecessary hassle that I don't have to worry about with Firefox, now do I?

You're correct. Besides, you're too busy waiting for your browser to launch to bother needing an extra click for security.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: JujuFish


How about the fact that it's an an extra click that I don't need to worry about with Firefox and doesn't come close to making up for the extreme lack of options that Chrome offers? You're coming off as a serious fanboy here.

LOL oh my wait. LOL
Me the fanboy ! LOL

The only thing I did is point out that it does have a private browsing option. I don't give a damn if you use lynx for a browser. I suggested people try safari earlier, guess that makes me a fanboy of it too. Oh look, I recommend people try FF when it was in the 3.xx betas, fanboy of that too ?

It is a click. If you are so feeble minded that you cannot click a mouse, you really have more problems than a browser can solve.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: JujuFish
How about the fact that it's an an extra click that I don't need to worry about with Firefox and doesn't come close to making up for the extreme lack of options that Chrome offers? You're coming off as a serious fanboy here.

Incogneto settles almost all of those options you can't seem to find. The other options aren't necessary, they're just fluff. Do you load up About:Config every time you load FireFox? Besides, that's MORE than just one extra click for a few tiny changes that won't make one bit of difference when you browse.

My one click > your umpteen clicks and hours downloading and updating and customizing and updating the browser and waiting for addon updates so they'll be compatible with the new browser version so they'll work again so you can go back to clicking like a madman customizingandohmygodwheredoesitstop

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Chrome does have a mode that allows you to browse without leaving any history.
I'm using the Iron version of chrome. Screenshot from the incognito setting:
http://img3.yfrog.com/img3/8883/incognitob.jpg

It is as simple as selecting , new incognito page.

Owned?

Hardly :^S

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/217/ffsafe.jpg

Chrome's 1 click > FireFox's 3 clicks

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Nik

Chrome's 1 click > FireFox's 3 clicks

They're both 2 clicks.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Nik

Chrome's 1 click > FireFox's 3 clicks

They're both 2 clicks.

Chrome invented it. Just like FireFox, too, to just steal ideas from other browsers because they can't think of anything worth-while on their own.

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Nik

Chrome's 1 click > FireFox's 3 clicks

They're both 2 clicks.

Chrome invented it. Just like FireFox, too, to just steal ideas from other browsers because they can't think of anything worth-while on their own.

So someone invents something worthwhile then another browser "steals" it and it's a bad thing? I guess we should all be running on a command line interface because Xerox invented the GUI and therefore they should be the only company allowed to have such a feature. :roll:

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: JujuFish


How about the fact that it's an an extra click that I don't need to worry about with Firefox and doesn't come close to making up for the extreme lack of options that Chrome offers? You're coming off as a serious fanboy here.

LOL oh my wait. LOL
Me the fanboy ! LOL

The only thing I did is point out that it does have a private browsing option. I don't give a damn if you use lynx for a browser. I suggested people try safari earlier, guess that makes me a fanboy of it too. Oh look, I recommend people try FF when it was in the 3.xx betas, fanboy of that too ?

It is a click. If you are so feeble minded that you cannot click a mouse, you really have more problems than a browser can solve.

Let's have an impartial third party decide which sounds like the fanboy: one person talking about features or another person talking about excuses why those features don't matter.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Nik

Chrome's 1 click > FireFox's 3 clicks

They're both 2 clicks.

Chrome invented it. Just like FireFox, too, to just steal ideas from other browsers because they can't think of anything worth-while on their own.

So someone invents something worthwhile then another browser "steals" it and it's a bad thing? I guess we should all be running on a command line interface because Xerox invented the GUI and therefore they should be the only company allowed to have such a feature. :roll:

I'm still waiting for your dissertation on internet security, sir.

 

[F1refly]

Are you guys debating in hopes others will switch browsers or succumb to the idea that your 100% right? I mean anyone can point out the positives and negatives of each but its still a personal preference. There is no wrong in a preference.

Originally posted by: Nik
Who needs all that crap? It's useless bloat that you spend more time customizing than you do actually browsing the web. And for what? A fucked up page layout on some sites because the site is expecting certain things to be in certain places that you end up blocking? It's just an advertisement, people. Ignoring it is much faster and much more efficient. Why bother disabling Java and Javascript when there's no real need to outside of browsing websites run by assholes? If you routinely browse malicious websites, I can see where you'd want to disable them. I'm not that dumb and Chrome handles Java and Javascript just fine anyway.

i need it. That is, i prefer it, apparantly alot of people feel they need it or at least want it. I have yet to ever have a problem with a website from things i've blocked.

in fact, it makes browsing the web faster the next time i visit. If i use "remove it permanetly" addon for FF. I can remove anything on any page i dont want to see the next time i visit which saves me some scrolling time and i can get down to reading what i'm looking for. Ignoring it may be faster for you..thats you though, not anyone else.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: JujuFish
Let's have an impartial third party decide which sounds like the fanboy: one person talking about features or another person talking about excuses why those features don't matter.

Neither one of them are fanboys. One of them is feature-dependant because they have a screw loose or have nothing better to do than configure settings instead of actually browsing while the other person is non-feature-dependant because all they really need is a connection to the internet and a browser to render fucking webpages.

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Nik

Chrome's 1 click > FireFox's 3 clicks

They're both 2 clicks.

Chrome invented it. Just like FireFox, too, to just steal ideas from other browsers because they can't think of anything worth-while on their own.

So someone invents something worthwhile then another browser "steals" it and it's a bad thing? I guess we should all be running on a command line interface because Xerox invented the GUI and therefore they should be the only company allowed to have such a feature. :roll:

I'm still waiting for your dissertation on internet security, sir.

In case you have a hard time comprehending things, I already stated that I won't waste my time. Chrome is better for you, Firefox for me. As Chrome develops (it is still a beta software after all), I may very well move to Chrome as it gets the features I desire. I've used and like Opera as well, and would probably use it if it weren't for a few small things that cause Firefox to edge it out for me. I don't see why you feel the need to bash anything that's not Chrome.

As for that prior statement, it wasn't necessarily directed specifically at you, but the general feeling people have about people "stealing" features. Your statement just happened to be the one I chose to comment on.