Ok, I will directly answer your question.
Spontaneous abortion - Act of nature / act of GOD. Nothing we can do about it.
Nothing we can do about it? Hardly. You
can not have sex.
Your response is the same as if you and the mother pointed a partially loaded revolver at your own newborn pulled the trigger and if it went off said it’s an act of nature or god. Nothing we could do about it.
By your logic, there’s no difference. The newborn is the same as a fertilized egg, the risk of death from spontaneous abortion is the same as playing Russian roulette, and whether you admit it or not the responsibility for that death is the same.
Pregnant women slaves - They made their choice. It is not a matter of making women slaves, it is a matter of holding them accountable for their actions.
So your argument is if a woman has sex with you they lose the right to bodily autonomy? Interesting argument.
Furthmore I thought you were arguing that a fetus is a baby and therefore has rights. What actions are you holding rape victims accountable for? Or are fetuses conceived of rape ok to terminate because this isn’t about the life of the baby but about punishing women who have sex?
I also don’t see an equal interest from you in having the man held accountable for his actions.
People give up certain rights when they commit certain actions. The idea that a personals rights can only be taken away by due process is BS. A person can take away their rights by their own hand.
- Play in the middle of a highway - You forfeit your right to life by your own hand.
- Jump out of a plane without a parachute - You forfeit your right to life by your own hand.
- Get pregnant - You forfeit your rights by your own hand.
But you don’t lose your rights automatically by getting pregnant. You want the government to use force to remove those rights. Taking away someone’s right through government force requires due process per the constitution.
Once more you want someone to lose their rights in favor of someone who per the 13th amendment isn’t a citizen yet.
Now that could be fixed to say anyone conceived in the US is a citizen. I’m sure most conservatives would be super happy to jump on board with that change in light of the current fights on immigration.
The unborn child did NOTHING to forfeit their right to life.
You might find this shocking but no one has a right to be born. Not you not me. My kids are here because my wife and I wanted them. Other children we could have had are not here because we didn’t.
Birth is a subjective barrier to rights. It is no different than being white to vote, being a free slave, being a property owner to vote... etc. Birth is a subjective an moveable barrier.
Creation is not a subjective barrier. Once the egg attaches to the uterus and cells begin to divide, it is a life. There is nothing subjective about that. By the very definition of life, dividing cells consuming nutrients is alive.
But you just subjectively chose the point of creation.
The sperm and egg are by definition alive before conception. The fertilized egg is alive after conception.
You’ve chosen embryo implantation as your line but many anti-abortionists choose conception as that line. So why are you right and they are wrong?
Of course at this point we don’t even know how many “babies” there are as multiples are always a possibility. Yet you talk of “a” life.
As Jefferson said in the Declaration of Independence - "We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness."
For all people to be created equal, rights have to start at the time of creation.
Now I am sorry to hear about what happened to you and your pregnant wife in the car crash. That’s awful.
It still doesn’t change the fact that your position above makes women into slaves, absolves men of any responsibility all based on an arbitrary line in the sand.