TehMac
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TehMac
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No that's not quite true. Btw, the "Gods" of Middle Earth are subject to Eru "The One" and thus are really angels, worshiped by some men and revered by Elves.
There were the Valar, the Great who numbered 14, and the "lesser" Valar, more commonly referred to as the "Maia."
These Maia varied in rank and power. Gandalf was a Maia who associated himself with the Vala goddess of sadness, and learned wisdom and humility, while Saruman had been a follower of the Vala Aule the Craftsman and desired more power...thus his admiration for the crafts became one of greed and envy when one of the followers of the Evil One (Melkor) named Sauron fashioned a mighty Ring to control the hearts and minds of the lesser-ring bearers.
Bombadil is relevant in a certain way. He represents how certain good and powerful people may yet be helpful while being ambivalent about the greater world. Gandalf characterizes Bombadil as incredibly forgetful. He's above the troubles of mortals like the Hobbits, but helps them when they wander into his life.
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Meh. I preferred Bored of the Rings, featuring Goodgulf Greyteeth and Dildo ah heck. It's a real book, and I did indeed read it.
I read it (this is true) the same year I read The Profit, by Kehlog Albran.
It wasn't a particularly good year for me.
I read it (this is true) the same year I read The Profit, by Kehlog Albran.
It wasn't a particularly good year for me.
Locut0s
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Ahhh wtf you motherfucker! I thought that was shit related to lotr and it's for harry potter. I hope that's not fucking true, never read the books but my wife makes me watch the movies and i obviously don't know how the last one ends....
shit
fuck
ass
angminas
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Ban ban ban ban ban!
That there should be a banable offense if there ever was one.
I've really been looking forward to finishing the Harry Potter series.
No no.. I was talking about darkswordsman17.
If what he said is accurate it ruined it for me too.
Maybe if we stop talking about it we'll forget about it in, say, 20 years.
Joemonkey
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uh, that spoiler happens in the half blood prince, the book came out in 2005, and the movie in 2009
how much time must pass before it isn't a spoiler any more? hey guess what, bruce willis died after getting shot and was dead throughout the 6th sense!
Anubis
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You know what. I AM AN ASSHOLE THAT CANNOT COMPREHEND WHAT HE READS!!! There I said it, I read DD but was thinking voldemort (or however you spell it). I havent read the books and often get the names mixed up. My bad. I apologize for the harsh words. Let's be friends.
everyone else, move along, nothing to see here, keep it moving....
Scotteq
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IIRC - It was part of the hoard taken from (the trolls?), along with the swords that went to Gandalf and **Aragorn**: Glam~something* and Orcist. Too small for the Humans, they gave it to Bilbo.
Glamdring, I think...
On checking: **'Glamdring' is the correct name for the second sword. But it wasn't Aragorns. But rather went to Thorin Oakenshield (Dwarf).
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Joemonkey
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I thought there were some barrow wights or something involved...
this is cool http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Barrow-blades
"The Barrow-blades were daggers or short swords forged in Arnor in the early Third Age. They were found by the Hobbits in the barrow of a barrow-wight and given to them by Tom Bombadil. Frodo's sword broke in the confrontation with the Nazgûl on the banks of the River near Rivendell and was replaced by Sting. Sam, Merry and Pippin kept their swords. Merry and Pippin's weapons were taken and discarded when the two hobbits were captured by Uruk-Hai at Amon Hen, but Aragorn saved them and they were returned when they were reunited at Isengard.
Merry's barrow-blade played a major role in the Battle of the Pelennor Fields. It was enchanted with the power to harm the Witch-king of Angmar himself by a weaponsmith of Arthedain long before. When he stabbed the Witch-king in the knee with it, it broke the spell protecting his undead flesh. This may have killed him though Eowyn, a woman, drove her sword into his unseen head. Merry's blade was destroyed upon striking the Witch-king."
Also, I've drank here many a time!
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dainthomas
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The hobbits got their weapons from the barrows (where Dunedain of Cardolan were buried). These weapons (Daggers of Westernesse) had been imbued with magic to destroy wraiths sent out by the Witch King of Angmar who they were battling at the time. It was a nice coincidence that Merry was wielding one of them when he stabbed the Witch King, unbinding his magic so Eowyn could then kill him.
The movie didn't really have a good way to explain why Merry stabbing him was that big a deal.
Scotteq
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Frodo's weapon broke when the Nazgul attacked them on Mountaintop.
The sword Bilbo gave Frodo to replace it ("Sting") was not one of those. That was sourced as stated above.
zinfamous
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agree with that. but, I was 12 when I read those. Read LotR much later in life (~25), and thought "damn, these would be great if I were still 12!"
they kinda blow otherwise.
This. That was a huge character development part for the hobbits. That was the major thing I have against them leaving out.
And for a while, I was disappointed they left the Treants part in the war at Helm's Deep out, but they added it in the extended edition.
Frodo's weapon broke when the Nazgul attacked them on Mountaintop.
The sword Bilbo gave Frodo to replace it ("Sting") was not one of those. That was sourced as stated above.
Also they left out that Sting was given that name by the spiders of Mirkwood, which figures in with Shelob.
Scotteq
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I was also disappointed by the treatement of Galadriel in the origial version - She came across as VERY cold and not nice. And my Ex (who hadn't read the books) didn't like her at all.
The extended version of the movies fleshed out that sub~story nicely, though.
In watching the special features, I was disappointed that something was left out that they were thinking of doing. I know it wouldn't have exactly fit with what came after, and it didn't happen in the book, but it would have been cool.
When they were going to see Galadriel, they had some storyboard sketches of them being chased by a bunch of the orcs/goblins/etc. and as they got into the woods, tons of arrows just streamed out and killed all of the ones pursuing them. Maybe they could have fixed the entry scene by doing something like that but anyway.
BudAshes
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