BCS standings released, 10/29/2007

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: Svnla
Top 10 football stadiums in the US:

1. Michigan Stadium - Ann Arbor, MI - 107,501 seats

http://naomi2001.50megs.com/images/uofm1.jpg

I like mine better

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/meltdown75/DSC02863.JPG

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Gibsons
I don't know if you're being deliberately obtuse or not.

Feldenak's point was that you don't have a great rivalry unless the two teams have been playing regularly for a very long time. OSU-PSU have only been playing regularly since PSU joined the Big Ten, which wasn't that long ago. IF they had been playing each other most every year since the 60's (or 20s...) then yeah, it might rank up there, regardless of whether PSU had ever joined the Big Ten or not.

In any case, OSU-PSU just isn't one of college football's great rivalries. The history and tradition just isn't there, and I suspect neither is the hatred.

Oh the hatred is there, I was at a post game in c-bus I want to say '98 or '99, and fans were flipping cars over and torching them. I heard similar things happened the next year at PSU.

But no I wasn't being totally serious, this all started when I was poking fun at Michigan, then at a Michigan fan, saying if Carr doesnt get his act together we'll replace UM with PSU in the "Greatest Rivalry In Sports" that of course wouldnt happen, but its fun to jab Mich fans with such a statement. Then whats his nuts came in with some SEC hoopla and it went down hill from there.

But I dont neccesarily think two schools have to play eachother for a long time to have a rivalry, the now dead Toledo-Marshall rivalry was as nasty as they come, but really only lasted while Marshall was in the MAC. They rarely played eachother before, and will likely rearely play eachother much again. But it was pretty intense for as far as the mid major schools go. It wasnt that they played a long time, its that they both kept knocking eachother out of the MAC championship each year. just an example.

Maybe you should hate them a little more. Text

 

[Gibsons]

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aw, c'mon, that vid has to rile a few people up.

 

[bGIveNs33]

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Oh please. I know (or at least hope) you're being sarcastic, but OSU-PSU is not even close when talking about the big rivalries. Just off the top of my head, I can think of 4 rivalries bigger than that game and that's without even leaving the SEC.

OSU and PSU both have 110k seat stadiums, they arent just "southeastern big" they are "really big" not to mention MUCH bigger fan bases than any SEC school. I know SEC people like to think they have something amazing going on down there but thats just because most southerners refuse to pay attention to anything north of the mason dixon line.

You really need to get out more if you think OSU-PSU ranks on anyones list as a rivalry. First of all, Auburn-Alabama is arguably just as good as OSU-UM, but not as much of the hype. The state of Alabama has ZERO top level professional sports.... nada. This game is all they have, and it is huge. Texas-Oklahoma is a pretty good game as well, USC-ND not bad either. FSU-Miami have had some incredible games over the years. Put down the Kool-Aid!

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: bGIveNs33

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Oh please. I know (or at least hope) you're being sarcastic, but OSU-PSU is not even close when talking about the big rivalries. Just off the top of my head, I can think of 4 rivalries bigger than that game and that's without even leaving the SEC.

OSU and PSU both have 110k seat stadiums, they arent just "southeastern big" they are "really big" not to mention MUCH bigger fan bases than any SEC school. I know SEC people like to think they have something amazing going on down there but thats just because most southerners refuse to pay attention to anything north of the mason dixon line.

You really need to get out more if you think OSU-PSU ranks on anyones list as a rivalry. First of all, Auburn-Alabama is arguably just as good as OSU-UM, but not as much of the hype. The state of Alabama has ZERO top level professional sports.... nada. This game is all they have, and it is huge. Texas-Oklahoma is a pretty good game as well, USC-ND not bad either. FSU-Miami have had some incredible games over the years. Put down the Kool-Aid!

Auburn vs. Alabama is good but nothing comes close to Ohio St. vs. Michigan. I'd go as far as to say that with the exception of Red Sox vs. Yankees, it's the biggest rivalry in sports. I say this as an impartial observer who's not a fan of any of those schools.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: bGIveNs33

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Oh please. I know (or at least hope) you're being sarcastic, but OSU-PSU is not even close when talking about the big rivalries. Just off the top of my head, I can think of 4 rivalries bigger than that game and that's without even leaving the SEC.

OSU and PSU both have 110k seat stadiums, they arent just "southeastern big" they are "really big" not to mention MUCH bigger fan bases than any SEC school. I know SEC people like to think they have something amazing going on down there but thats just because most southerners refuse to pay attention to anything north of the mason dixon line.

You really need to get out more if you think OSU-PSU ranks on anyones list as a rivalry. First of all, Auburn-Alabama is arguably just as good as OSU-UM, but not as much of the hype. The state of Alabama has ZERO top level professional sports.... nada. This game is all they have, and it is huge. Texas-Oklahoma is a pretty good game as well, USC-ND not bad either. FSU-Miami have had some incredible games over the years. Put down the Kool-Aid!

Auburn vs. Alabama is good but nothing comes close to Ohio St. vs. Michigan. I'd go as far as to say that with the exception of Red Sox vs. Yankees, it's the biggest rivalry in sports. I say this as an impartial observer who's not a fan of any of those schools.

Actually, having experienced both (grew up in Ohio as an OSU fan, brother is OSU alum, I am an Auburn fan & grad)...I'd say they're pretty close to dead even but I give the hatred edge to The Iron Bowl by about a hair's width.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: bGIveNs33

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Oh please. I know (or at least hope) you're being sarcastic, but OSU-PSU is not even close when talking about the big rivalries. Just off the top of my head, I can think of 4 rivalries bigger than that game and that's without even leaving the SEC.

OSU and PSU both have 110k seat stadiums, they arent just "southeastern big" they are "really big" not to mention MUCH bigger fan bases than any SEC school. I know SEC people like to think they have something amazing going on down there but thats just because most southerners refuse to pay attention to anything north of the mason dixon line.

You really need to get out more if you think OSU-PSU ranks on anyones list as a rivalry.

If you and the rest of these SEC zealots would slow down and actually read what I originally posted (and further explaned three or four times) I never said it WAS, I said it could be, in place of OSU-UM. Just take a look at the Browns-Steelers rivalry. Its basically the same fans, except you substitute thier fave college teams.

First of all, Auburn-Alabama is arguably just as good as OSU-UM,

No its not. According to one of the most exhaustive of all the rivalry rankings, Bama-Auburn ranks behind 2 baseball teams, 2 boxers, 2 golfers, 2 college basketball teams, 2 pro basketball players, 2 hockey teams... http://espn.go.com/endofcentur...her/bestrivalries.html

but not as much of the hype. The state of Alabama has ZERO top level professional sports.... nada. This game is all they have, and it is huge. Texas-Oklahoma is a pretty good game as well, USC-ND not bad either. FSU-Miami have had some incredible games over the years. Put down the Kool-Aid!

meh, the whole arguments been beat to death a hundred times. OSU-UM always wins. If it were close, they wouldnt ALWAYS win these polls. Sports shows/sites have the whole rivalry debate all the time, 2nd and 3rd place changes all the time, hell some years its Army-Navy. But #1 is pretty static.

 

[Gibsons]

I thought everyone agreed that taking a poll is no way to decide what's best.