Originally posted by: Genx87
You built a scenario that sounds reasonable. The problem I have is we could extend it out 100 years and make it sounds completely feasible.
When I see plans for a president my assumption is 4 years. Afterall that is all they can legitimately claim to work with. In this case that is 1.25 million jobs a year. Even if we went 8 years that cuts it to about 600,000 jobs a year. I dont give credit to presidents for job creation. But in this argument I can say policies could be enacted that will drive these job creations. That said I wont give a president credit for jobs created after they leave office either.
8 years and 5 million jobs would be a miracle. The only way I see him making that claim come true is if ne nationalizes the industry and hires all the workers then claims he created the jobs.
On top of this nearly impossible feat his plan revolves around good paying jobs. That means college educated and trained to work in this field. Do you think there are 5 million people working in green jobs today that would fit this category? Do you think our university system is going to shit out these people in the next 8 years?
Well, there is certainly some solid potential truth to your concerns and unfortunately I don't believe that anyone here is informed enough about the kinds of details that are necessary to understand in order to take it any further. We would need to know a lot of information about the biofuels industry and fuel infrastructure in general. We would need to know about all of the kinds of positions that they need filled and we would need to understand what is necessary for the people in most of the positions to be able to do the job correctly.
However, I believe it stands within reason to argue that there are TONS of jobs in the US today where the vast majority of employers demand at least a 4 year degree even though all the person really needs are on the job skills which could be taught through a training program or vocational school-like program of some sort. Much of these employers demand a degree not so much because they know it is needed but because they can based on the number of applicants to choose from.
If Obama can invest in the right industries and stimulate a lot of growth then that will mean demand for people with certain skill sets. Many of those positions won't need degrees. They will need the kinds of skills that can be taught in the training programs Obama wishes to invest in as well.
I think that combining the people that would love to work jobs like this along with those college students who see a future in these son to be growing industries will satisfy the demand very nicely. Hell! The demand might even exceed expectations which would drive even more incentive for private investors to start investing even more money. The domino effect has the potential to be a wonderful thing from so many points of views.
Beyond that, I could care less about credibility. My feelings in general about all solutions is that I don't care who gets it to work as long as it works and it works well. I also don't really care if Obama's plan takes longer than expected or that the results are reasonably less than expected. Expecting anyone to fix this crap in 4 years is a pipe dream. Hell, 8 years is probably a pipe dream too but it is better than 4. All I want is a new direction to be laid out in front of us by Obama and future presidents as well as the private investors to continue leading us in down that path. Future presidents may not lead us down it quite as Obama is currently intending, but as long as the pres isn't a complete douche bag it should work itself out pretty well.
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