Banned from Nvidia Forums by Chris Ray (Update: Situation Resolved, Mistaken Identity)

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
You simply blew the problem out of porportion. Not just by a little but abit TOO extreme. Almost similiar to FUD spreading.

Big secrets? hardware revisions? not DX10 compliant? cover up by nVIDIA? the list goes on.

No wonder Chris Ray banned you especially at the nVIDIA forum site.

kinda like you and ati

jumping to nvidia's "defense" ... no matter 'what'.

we get it

and PLEASE ... Vista IS released ... it is out and you can buy a copy ... your excuse grows weaker by the hour.

i know nvidia is EMBARASSED that they are behind .... and they don't take criticism very well

OP, would you rather have a buggy driver? Their architecture is brand new and you can only stretch a company so thin.

after all, nvidia wasn't complemented by MS publically for designing the SW driver "at the Heart of Vista" like ATi

strange ... 4 years ago Ati was waaay behind nvidia in writing drivers ... it appears the situation is now reversed

Come again?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
You simply blew the problem out of porportion. Not just by a little but abit TOO extreme. Almost similiar to FUD spreading.

Big secrets? hardware revisions? not DX10 compliant? cover up by nVIDIA? the list goes on.

No wonder Chris Ray banned you especially at the nVIDIA forum site.

kinda like you and [negatives toward] ati

jumping to nvidia's "defense" ... no matter 'what'.

we get it

and PLEASE ... Vista IS released ... it is out and you can buy a copy ... your excuse grows weaker by the hour.

i know nvidia is EMBARASSED that they are behind .... and they don't take criticism very well

OP, would you rather have a buggy driver? Their architecture is brand new and you can only stretch a company so thin.

after all, nvidia wasn't complemented by MS publically for designing the SW driver "at the Heart of Vista" like ATi

strange ... 4 years ago Ati was waaay behind nvidia in writing drivers ... it appears the situation is now reversed

Come again?

clarified

 

[terpsy]

Thats pretty funny coming from the guy who has "Swore to get back at Nvidia at any cost and would make Nvidia pay" 8800GTS purchase. Why dont you stop coming back to the forums. Impersonating me on other forums. You only make yourself look foolish. Please leave. Your not welcome here tdbone.

Goodbye Again

And for the "G80 doesnt work in Vista". The features have been exposed for sometime. People have already benched the geometry shader. It works fine. All the other features work fine. If Nvidia had something to hide they wouldnt have exposed it in OpenGL.


Quoted from message above....



Now, I have never said I was gonna make Nvidia Pay, I do feel that as of Jan 30th, if the situation is not rectified, they are open to Lawsuits based upon their original PR, Current PR, and Future PR....

If you look at my purchases, how am I with a vendetta against NVidia? That makes no sense...

As well as I have never, not once pretended to be Chris Ray. By that allegation alone, he blows all creditibility, and I do wonder if NVidia is aware of the type of person they have spreading their Corporate Goodwill (he is a moderator on their Support Channels. Responsibility falls with the hiring company)

If I have done as to what he has suggested, I would like some proof.

 

[DeathReborn]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
You simply blew the problem out of porportion. Not just by a little but abit TOO extreme. Almost similiar to FUD spreading.

Big secrets? hardware revisions? not DX10 compliant? cover up by nVIDIA? the list goes on.

No wonder Chris Ray banned you especially at the nVIDIA forum site.

kinda like you and ati

jumping to nvidia's "defense" ... no matter 'what'.

we get it

and PLEASE ... Vista IS released ... it is out and you can buy a copy ... your excuse grows weaker by the hour.
... but that's the way the crumbles

i know nvidia is EMBARASSED that they are behind .... and they don't take criticism very well

OP, would you rather have a buggy driver? Their architecture is brand new and you can only stretch a company so thin.

after all, nvidia wasn't complemented by MS publically for designing the SW driver "at the Heart of Vista" like ATi

strange ... 4 years ago Ati was waaay behind nvidia in writing drivers ... it appears the situation is now reversed

http://promotions.newegg.com/microsoft/vista/faq.html#11Rod

Just because Corporations can buy mass licences to Vista Business Edition doesn't make it released.

As for ATi's drivers, their Linux drivers were never as good as the nVidia ones, not even the latest ones. Not to mention their lack of flexibility with Crossfire Profiles in OGL titles.

From the looks of things he deserves to be banned for impersonating Chris etc.

 

[mikek753]

isn't it about to hold your money until:
1. Vista is released to retail (bb, cusa, etc) - Jan 31?
2. ATI deliver dx10 card - March ?
3. NV deliver Vista 8800 driver - ?

so far ATI doesn't have any dx10 card and NV has 8800 - the fact. But, ppl can't use that dx10 for what ever reason - no Vista, no driver, no games ...

you wanna be the first adopter - you pay for that.
And OP thank you for sharing your experience it helps to make my mind about what and when to buy.

 

[GTaudiophile]

<Flame Suit On>

The real reason that NVDA is having so much trouble creating a Vista DX10 driver is because DX10 was designed around R600/AMD hardware!

<Runs!>

 

[Cookie Monster]

:Q

Im jumping to nVIDIA's defense no matter what? Well whatever floats your boat

Theres a reason why ChrisRay banned the guy. You dont see why?

Am i the only one that sees the Vista problem blown out of proportion?

 

[coolpurplefan]

you can always use another email address, proxy servers, another web browser etc

 

[coolpurplefan]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
<Flame Suit On>

The real reason that NVDA is having so much trouble creating a Vista DX10 driver is because DX10 was designed around R600/AMD hardware!

<Runs!>

You'd better run after making that comment. ROTFLMAO!!!

Just kidding. Hmmmm, I can't imagine how MSFT would intentionally want DX10 to run only on certain hardware. After all, they have to make sure it will work in the future...

...? What possesed you to make a comment like that?:evil:

 

[smthmlk]

If you go into a store and cause a stir, you're going to be asked to leave and not come back, even if what you're causing a stir over seems very valid and real to you. Live with it.

Coming to anandtech to complain about you being banned on another forum that is in no way connected to anandtech is ridiculous. If it were me, you'd be banned here as well, terpsy. Find a way around your ban and try to talk to ChrisRay or someone else. We can't help you here.

 

[Tegeril]

SERIOUSLY. Do we need another thread on this topic? STOP.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
<Flame Suit On>

The real reason that NVDA is having so much trouble creating a Vista DX10 driver is because DX10 was designed around R600/AMD hardware!

<Runs!>

You'd better run after making that comment. ROTFLMAO!!!

Just kidding. Hmmmm, I can't imagine how MSFT would intentionally want DX10 to run only on certain hardware. After all, they have to make sure it will work in the future...

...? What possesed you to make a comment like that?:evil:

Because NVDA d!cked with MS on the XB1. In contrast, I think MS has loved its working relationship with ATI on XB360. During the dev process of XB360 I just think that ATI got unique access to DX10/Vista info.

Just a gut feeling.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
:Q

Im jumping to nVIDIA's defense no matter what? Well whatever floats your boat

Theres a reason why ChrisRay banned the guy. You dont see why?

Am i the only one that sees the Vista problem blown out of proportion?

yes

yes i do ... they don't have freedom on their site like here

no ... true nvidia guys have faith in their company and see every issue detrimental to nvidia blown out of proportion ... but no one else agrees

and coolpurplefan, "why" GT made that comment was because of the thread i posted a few months back that showed MS rather one-sidedly praising praising ATi for jointly developing the "driver at the Heart of Vista" with MS without also mentioning nvidia's contribution ... anywhere anyone can find

maybe ATi is just more experienced with the Vista Driver than nvidia ... no shame there

... and maybe not

but i think nvidia is just "behind" ... they just released a wonderful new piece of HW that takes TIME to write drivers for a new OS.

 

[Nelsieus]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster

Am i the only one that sees the Vista problem blown out of proportion?

No, but I just figure let them have their fun. Nobody pays attention to it (because most people don't have Vista yet), so the argument really doesn't resonate, except to the few percent with Vista and the hardcore fanATIcs.

It'll only last a little while longer. nVidia is expected to release them later this month.

Nelsieus

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: Nelsieus
except to the few percent with Vista

So shouldn't those people have that driver??

My take on the issue is that NVidia, at the launch of G80, should have given a disclaimer stating that there would be no Vista driver until Vista has its retail launch. Would it have been so hard to do so? The only reason I can think of that they WOULDN'T do that is because it would have hindered sales slightly...and if that IS the case, then in hindsight NVidia screwed over some of their customers.

I personally don't care since I don't use Vista but if I did, then I DEFINITELY would care so I can understand where the people that are complaining are coming from.

 

[sisq0kidd]

I don't get it.

You are complaining about not having support for a beta product that is not yet released?

Nvidia said their cards are Vista ready. Vista is not even Vista ready!

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I don't get it.

You are complaining about not having support for a beta product that is not yet released?

Nvidia said their cards are Vista ready. Vista is not even Vista ready!

SOME people have obtained NON-BETA copies of Vista through legitimate means. Just because you can't buy it at Bestbuy or wherever doesn't mean it has not been released at the very least to business customers.

 

[olmer]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I don't get it.

You are complaining about not having support for a beta product that is not yet released?

Nvidia said their cards are Vista ready. Vista is not even Vista ready!

from here onwards http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=23399&st=680

interesting read

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I don't get it.

You are complaining about not having support for a beta product that is not yet released?

Nvidia said their cards are Vista ready. Vista is not even Vista ready!

SOME people have obtained NON-BETA copies of Vista through legitimate means. Just because you can't buy it at Bestbuy or wherever doesn't mean it has not been released at the very least to business customers.

There are probably more people running OS/2 on workstations than vista under those conditions. Think they should get drivers as well?

 

[GreggyD]

Vista (all versions) was RTM'd back on November 8th....straight from the horse's mouth:

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2006/nov06/11-08VistaRTM.mspx

The RTM version that Beta Testers and TechNet subscribers received is NO different than what is to be released at the end of this month. The OP does have a legit beef with Nvidia and their crappy Vista support up to now. They just released non-beta drivers last night for sub-8800 cards (after two months). That's ridiculous.

 

[Wreckage]

From what I read, the OP got banned for BS he posted on another account and then created a second account to complain with.

Any good forum will ban people for creating multiple accounts.

Nothing to see here folks, just a big steaming pile.

EDIT:

Same thread as this already got locked at the H
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1141132

With all of these BS threads lately it smells like viral marketing.

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I don't get it.

You are complaining about not having support for a beta product that is not yet released?

Nvidia said their cards are Vista ready. Vista is not even Vista ready!

SOME people have obtained NON-BETA copies of Vista through legitimate means. Just because you can't buy it at Bestbuy or wherever doesn't mean it has not been released at the very least to business customers.

Well, my apologies, I did not know Vista was out of its Beta stage for some customers.

That does not change the central opposing view I hold though. The OP's gripe, although legitimate in some sense, is ridiculous.

Vista is not yet released. I repeat, Vista is not yet released. Just because some niche market got their hands on a few copies does not make it an actual product.

 

[nitromullet]

but i think nvidia is just "behind"

I don't see how you could say this...

I'm not going to say that NV has exactly been johnny-on-the-spot with Vista drivers for the 8-series, but ATI doesn't exactly have publicly available Vista drivers for R600 either. We will only see who has the best drivers for Vista after R600 is released. At this point is really is too early to speculate. Sure, I read the thing about ATI's contributions to DX10, but that was MS PR, so we'll see how it really shakes out.

To the OP: You are actually incorrect that the main draw for the 8-series was Vista... Maybe for a few, but most people buying these cards are still using XP, are happy with the cards performance, albeit maybe a bit disappointed with XP drivers. Even boefore its release, NV was saying that they were still paying a lot of attention to DX9, and that DX9 performance would still be the deciding factor for this generation.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
There are probably more people running OS/2 on workstations than vista under those conditions. Think they should get drivers as well?

I don't remember anything on my 8800GTS box that said "OS/2 READY". If it DID, then heck yes there should be a driver for it.

 

[terpsy]

PM sent to Wreckage...

If I had nothing better to possibly do, yes, I see your point...

But after you read my PM, you should retract your comments

Thank you