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Fear No Evil

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Of course you are not my son, if i had you as a son i'd be a worthless parent and i'm not.

You could ask any of the older posters here regarding missions that i have told them about that could later be read in the paper, obviously i can't tell anyone anything before the order for information to be released, it has happened that i have revealed more than i had intended which showed up a few months later though.

I am not complaining about the US military as a whole but it does bug me that there are men on 12 month duty who never leave the camp site, fucking guess why.

Mostly it's leadership bullsheit and most of all the idiotic decision to abandon the win in Afghanistan to make it into something that cannot possibly be won anymore. Not without 80% civilian casualties, i can stomach that but can you and those like you?

Believe what you want, you do not matter to anyone but yourself, those who i consider my friends (and yes, there are some on this forum) know very well who i am.

There is not one person here that has done service with the Task Force Black, Special Air Service, i would know because if there were, i'd be his commanding officer you stupid twat.

Do you ever get tired of making a fool out of yourself? If not, please continue, it amuses this Captain to see a retard trying to climb up and falling back down every time.

For someone as important as you claim to be, you certainly have a lot of time to spend posting on Anandtech. In an earlier post you mention:

"You are telling me, a Captain of the SAS what is what in the military?"

I assume then that you never question anyone who outranks you 'what is what' in the military? Yet, above you mention 'its leadership bullsheit'. How dare you question your leadership on 'what is what'.

With as immature as you are in this forums its absolutely amazing to me that the Brits have put you into ANY leadership role. You really should sign your posts with your full name, rank, etc.. Unless you are too ashamed to do it? Clearly you answer to nobody, so there will be no consequences right?
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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At this point I think it's only right to point out that this is, in fact, a movie taking place on a fantasy alien world with a script akin to Ferngully... why not choose to get your military panties in a bunch over a more appropriate movie, like Full Metal Jacket, Jarhead, etc.. etc.. etc..
 

Cuda1447

Lifer
Jul 26, 2002
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Explain to me how that is "OWNAGE" at ALL? Not only did he not reply to anything I have said before (like everyone else... just said the same stuff over and over), but he was actually wrong on almost everything.

"NEVER ONCE DID IT SAY THAT METAL COULD SAVE HUMAN LIVES, YOU ASSUMED THAT"
Let me quote something from Avatar for you... "mining a rare mineral that is key to solving Earth's energy crisis"
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM................. Not hard to "assume" that a huge energy crisis would cause the loss of life is it? Especially when Earth was described as a brown planet - there are probably very very few sources of energy left and then the new mineral was discovered. Awww....

If you do a search for quarries in the USA on Google Maps, you will see the United States is littered with quarries and our planet has not been destroyed.
The non-military leader showed the 3D map of the mineral deposit on Pandora. MOST areas did not have the mineral under the surface. They wanted to mine at the areas with the large deposits (large deposits of a material not even being directly used).
So... they were not "EXACTLY" destroying the planet.

About the memory-holding trees: It was that stupid bitch's job to do research and figure out everything about the planet. She failed to figure that stuff in time - it was no way the corporation's fault. Were they supposed to give her an unlimited timeline? And even still, the fact that they tried doing research through her is more than they have to do to solve a WORLDWIDE ENERGY CRISIS.

Moral right? I am not saying what the military did was morally good, but it was definitely morally justifiable. The aliens definitely could have moved away from that one location - hell they are going to HAVE to now that their tree got chopped down. Asking ALIENS nicely for 3 months and then giving even more notice is more than enough if it will save a large amount of American lives.

And also, I won't put an introduction and conclusion of name-calling like you because I am not a total douche bag. I expect a reply from you responding to each point and also one from you, "FINEST".



Ohh, you want to play this game eh? Alright, let's do it.

Yes, they did say they were going to solve an energy crisis. One that was created because humans sucked earth dry. They didnt say it was crucial to saving lives, you did assume that. But that's totally irrelevant.

Now I'm not going to do research on quarries on earth, because quite frankly that is FUCKING STUPID. Only a moron like yourself would use quarries on Earth to validate why its ok to destroy another species planet. And yes, as I've said before, you are destroying it. Comparing mining oil out of a dessert is hardly the same as mining energytonium out of a tree that is essentially the lifeline of this species planet. Not to mention, ITS NOT YOUR FUCKING PLANET. I don't give a shit if mining this shit will turn you into a god, you don't have the moral right to STEAL shit from another species planet. Just cause you land there doesn't mean you can place a flag and claim it all as your own shit. Can I come in your house, take off my shoes, piss on your kids and eat your pizza. Well, by your fucked up logic I can. If you resist peacefully removing yourself from the kitchen Im going to bash you in the face with my fist. Something that quite frankly I wish someone would do.


As for the stupid bitch scientist. Ya, you're right. She didn't do her job. She didn't figure out the mystery of an entirely new planet in 3 months. What about all those fucking asshole doctors trying to cure cancer? I hope they get hit by a truck, right? After all, how many years do they need? Tell the fucknuts to do their job. YOU'RE SUCH A DUMBASS, OMFG. I can't believe you even take yourself seriously. How do you get dressed in the morning? But I digress....

As for your last 'point' if you want to call it that. You say what the humans did was morally justifiable. So by your logic, it is perfectly ok to A. Destroy your planet. B. Inhabit another species planet (an intelligent species, mind you). C. Kill them D. Destroy their heritage/culture/way of life D. Take their resources and destroy their planet? What the fuck is wrong with you?


Oh, wait. I get it. We asked them nicely. "Hey, aliens.... you're not really worth of much, you're just fucking aliens. But anyways, we were wondering if you wouldn't mind if we destroyed your home. You can make a new one. Also, we may have to kill a lot of wildlife around here. Maybe destroy some of your heritage and culture too. But we need your shit cause we fucked ours up... mmmmk?"

That makes it all alright.... right? WRONG. DUMBFUCK. Its not ok. And quoting fucking shit out of your military handbook DOES NOTHING TO HELP YOUR CASE. ITS IRRELEVANT. Stop being a meathead.


As for me being a douche. You're right. I am a douche, at least to DUMB FUCKING MORONS LIKE YOU. You have no business being in the military, let alone posting on the internet. Your hideous OP brought out my docheiness. Now deal with it, assbag.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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I don't know about the rest of y'all, but Wefty has something vital to my survival. It is imperative that I go and take it from him. Hopefully he's a Moral person and doesn't refuse.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
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Ohh, you want to play this game eh? Alright, let's do it.

Yes, they did say they were going to solve an energy crisis. One that was created because humans sucked earth dry. They didnt say it was crucial to saving lives, you did assume that. But that's totally irrelevant.

Now I'm not going to do research on quarries on earth, because quite frankly that is FUCKING STUPID. Only a moron like yourself would use quarries on Earth to validate why its ok to destroy another species planet. And yes, as I've said before, you are destroying it. Comparing mining oil out of a dessert is hardly the same as mining energytonium out of a tree that is essentially the lifeline of this species planet. Not to mention, ITS NOT YOUR FUCKING PLANET. I don't give a shit if mining this shit will turn you into a god, you don't have the moral right to STEAL shit from another species planet. Just cause you land there doesn't mean you can place a flag and claim it all as your own shit. Can I come in your house, take off my shoes, piss on your kids and eat your pizza. Well, by your fucked up logic I can. If you resist peacefully removing yourself from the kitchen Im going to bash you in the face with my fist. Something that quite frankly I wish someone would do.


As for the stupid bitch scientist. Ya, you're right. She didn't do her job. She didn't figure out the mystery of an entirely new planet in 3 months. What about all those fucking asshole doctors trying to cure cancer? I hope they get hit by a truck, right? After all, how many years do they need? Tell the fucknuts to do their job. YOU'RE SUCH A DUMBASS, OMFG. I can't believe you even take yourself seriously. How do you get dressed in the morning? But I digress....

As for your last 'point' if you want to call it that. You say what the humans did was morally justifiable. So by your logic, it is perfectly ok to A. Destroy your planet. B. Inhabit another species planet (an intelligent species, mind you). C. Kill them D. Destroy their heritage/culture/way of life D. Take their resources and destroy their planet? What the fuck is wrong with you?


Oh, wait. I get it. We asked them nicely. "Hey, aliens.... you're not really worth of much, you're just fucking aliens. But anyways, we were wondering if you wouldn't mind if we destroyed your home. You can make a new one. Also, we may have to kill a lot of wildlife around here. Maybe destroy some of your heritage and culture too. But we need your shit cause we fucked ours up... mmmmk?"

That makes it all alright.... right? WRONG. DUMBFUCK. Its not ok. And quoting fucking shit out of your military handbook DOES NOTHING TO HELP YOUR CASE. ITS IRRELEVANT. Stop being a meathead.


As for me being a douche. You're right. I am a douche, at least to DUMB FUCKING MORONS LIKE YOU. You have no business being in the military, let alone posting on the internet. Your hideous OP brought out my docheiness. Now deal with it, assbag.


to be consistent you should probably leave the us asap:p
 

weflyhigh

Senior member
Jan 1, 2007
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Ohh, you want to play this game eh? Alright, let's do it.

Yes, they did say they were going to solve an energy crisis. One that was created because humans sucked earth dry. They didnt say it was crucial to saving lives, you did assume that. But that's totally irrelevant.

Now I'm not going to do research on quarries on earth, because quite frankly that is FUCKING STUPID. Only a moron like yourself would use quarries on Earth to validate why its ok to destroy another species planet. And yes, as I've said before, you are destroying it. Comparing mining oil out of a dessert is hardly the same as mining energytonium out of a tree that is essentially the lifeline of this species planet. Not to mention, ITS NOT YOUR FUCKING PLANET. I don't give a shit if mining this shit will turn you into a god, you don't have the moral right to STEAL shit from another species planet. Just cause you land there doesn't mean you can place a flag and claim it all as your own shit. Can I come in your house, take off my shoes, piss on your kids and eat your pizza. Well, by your fucked up logic I can. If you resist peacefully removing yourself from the kitchen Im going to bash you in the face with my fist. Something that quite frankly I wish someone would do.


As for the stupid bitch scientist. Ya, you're right. She didn't do her job. She didn't figure out the mystery of an entirely new planet in 3 months. What about all those fucking asshole doctors trying to cure cancer? I hope they get hit by a truck, right? After all, how many years do they need? Tell the fucknuts to do their job. YOU'RE SUCH A DUMBASS, OMFG. I can't believe you even take yourself seriously. How do you get dressed in the morning? But I digress....

As for your last 'point' if you want to call it that. You say what the humans did was morally justifiable. So by your logic, it is perfectly ok to A. Destroy your planet. B. Inhabit another species planet (an intelligent species, mind you). C. Kill them D. Destroy their heritage/culture/way of life D. Take their resources and destroy their planet? What the fuck is wrong with you?


Oh, wait. I get it. We asked them nicely. "Hey, aliens.... you're not really worth of much, you're just fucking aliens. But anyways, we were wondering if you wouldn't mind if we destroyed your home. You can make a new one. Also, we may have to kill a lot of wildlife around here. Maybe destroy some of your heritage and culture too. But we need your shit cause we fucked ours up... mmmmk?"

That makes it all alright.... right? WRONG. DUMBFUCK. Its not ok. And quoting fucking shit out of your military handbook DOES NOTHING TO HELP YOUR CASE. ITS IRRELEVANT. Stop being a meathead.


As for me being a douche. You're right. I am a douche, at least to DUMB FUCKING MORONS LIKE YOU. You have no business being in the military, let alone posting on the internet. Your hideous OP brought out my docheiness. Now deal with it, assbag.

You might actually not comprehend the English language if I just read your reply correctly.

The fact that humans sucked the Earth dry is no excuse to not try to stay alive. Are you trying to say that because we used up our energy we should just slowly rot and die? Is that our punishment? You would be ok with that?

There is a WORLDWIDE energy crisis. By the year the movie takes place there are estimated to be around 10 BILLION people on Earth. Surely A LOT of those people will die if there is no energy for them to use. Surely? No? Is that a bad assumption? No one will die with no energy?

You are not destroying anything. We mine our energy currently and have not destroyed our planet. People do not live where the mines are, as there are other vast habitable areas. This is the SAME as the movie.

"By my fucked up logic", if I had pizza and you needed it to save 100,000 lives (and also note I am not using the pizza, I am allergic to it) then yes you could come ASK me for it and then take it from me.

Your analogies in that response are completely messed up. I can play that game, though:
If a two-year old child is chasing you around with a grenade in his hand.. are you allowed to take the grenade from him? You are? IT'S HIS FUCKING GRENADE YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE YOU FUCKING PIECE OF MORON SHIT YOU MORAL FUCK ITS HIS FUCKING GRENADE LET HIM RUN THE FUCK AROUND YOU WITH IT CURSE WORD FUCK CURSE MORON.

When the hell did I tell the research lady to get hit by a truck?

As for your last 'point' if you want to call it that. You say what the humans did was morally justifiable. So by your logic, it is perfectly ok to A. Destroy your planet. B. Inhabit another species planet (an intelligent species, mind you). C. Kill them D. Destroy their heritage/culture/way of life D. Take their resources and destroy their planet? What the fuck is wrong with you?
A. We didn't destroy anything and were not going to destroy anything. We only wanted where the mineral deposits were TO SAVE HUMAN LIVES. You saw when they collected all of those other clans for support: they traveled over huge areas where they could have moved to.
B. Yes, I do not see anything morally wrong with temporarily living in another planet to save the Earth.
C. I have no problem killing anyone that attempts to kill me. Neither do standard morals.
D. "THEIR RESOURCES" implies that the mineral was one of "THEIR RESOURCES". They were not using the mineral and would never have any need to - it wasn't one of their resources. So, we did not "take" "THEIR RESOURCES". You are wrong. Curse word.

"Hey aliens, you are on the same level as dolphins, and we need you guys to temporarily relocate so that we can save our planet (that is home for 10 billion people). We will compensate you for any damages and only attack you to defend ourselves. We trust that self defense is a reasonable idea in your society. Thank you." is more accurate.




Wait a second. You are posting this shit in my thread about how I found it disgusting that American Marines turned against their own military and started murdering follow soldiers. What? Who? Quoting stuff from a military handbook that governs what is right and wrong within the military is irrelevant to what is right and wrong in the military? What?
 
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Obviously you disagree with one of the movie's points, but in doing so, you obviously missed the entire premise of the movie: Sully's identity crisis resulting from the Avatar experiment. Is he the soldier who follows orders, or is he one of the indigenous people? As a soldier, he shouldn't disobey direct orders, but then again, is he still a soldier? Because he's not just a man.

Of course, this is in addition to the criticism of raping our own world for energy resources... sure, we can bulldoze everything to get to the energy, but then once that's all gone we're left with nothing, which is precisely why the humans are trying to ravage Pandora.

And then, there's the whole thing about whether they are contracted mercenaries or not, and whether the government is always good. Because government is not always good, and to think that what government has become today is definitely good is incredibly shortsighted and ignorant. But then again, why do you care? You're only about to become an officer in the United States armed forces.
 
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For someone as important as you claim to be, you certainly have a lot of time to spend posting on Anandtech. In an earlier post you mention:

"You are telling me, a Captain of the SAS what is what in the military?"

I assume then that you never question anyone who outranks you 'what is what' in the military? Yet, above you mention 'its leadership bullsheit'. How dare you question your leadership on 'what is what'.

With as immature as you are in this forums its absolutely amazing to me that the Brits have put you into ANY leadership role. You really should sign your posts with your full name, rank, etc.. Unless you are too ashamed to do it? Clearly you answer to nobody, so there will be no consequences right?

If you weren't so fucked up in the head as you are you'd note that i have NEVER claimed to be important, it's retarded fucks like yourself who look up to some people because you have done nothing in your own life.

You apply that label but it doesn't really apply to me, the wars i have been in have been of no consequence for either US or UK, it's wars made up by politicians and none of them are really needed.

Let's face facts, shall we? We were not shipped to Afghanistan to really do anything there and as soon as we HAD done anything and were about to end it, with the Taliban and Al Quaida driven to the far east/north we were ordered out of there and it turned into some sort of humanitarian mission where training security forces was ALL that was done there.

We were not allowed to win and the more i think about how everything happened it seems to me that that was the reason for Iraq, it was so we couldn't finish the job in Afghanistan.

One thing i like is how you and Lemon Law agree on me but neither of you understand this one thing, i don't have a political leadership role, i do one thing and i do that one thing really well.

Sure, i can give you my full name and rank.

Captain Jake Agnew, Task Force Black, Special Air Service, RAF since 1988, service number 881019.

Now what you fucking twat?
 

Cuda1447

Lifer
Jul 26, 2002
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A. We didn't destroy anything and were not going to destroy anything. We only wanted where the mineral deposits were TO SAVE HUMAN LIVES. You saw when they collected all of those other clans for support: they traveled over huge areas where they could have moved to.
B. Yes, I do not see anything morally wrong with temporarily living in another planet to save the Earth.
C. I have no problem killing anyone that attempts to kill me. Neither do standard morals.
D. "THEIR RESOURCES" implies that the mineral was one of "THEIR RESOURCES". They were not using the mineral and would never have any need to - it wasn't one of their resources. So, we did not "take" "THEIR RESOURCES". You are wrong. Curse word.

"Hey aliens, you are on the same level as dolphins, and we need you guys to temporarily relocate so that we can save our planet (that is home for 10 billion people). We will compensate you for any damages and only attack you to defend ourselves. We trust that self defense is a reasonable idea in your society. Thank you." is more accurate.



Let's just start with this.

A. Didn't destroy anything? Those forests were destroyed. The indegenous species HOME was destroyed. What do you mean didn't destroy anything? Are you really that stupid? As for what we wanted... THAT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER. You don't always get what you want, dumbshit. IT ISN'T OURS TO TAKE. ITS NOT OUR PLANET. ITS NOT OUR HOME. ITS NOT OUR FOREST. ITS NOT OUR RESOURCES, NONE OF IT IS OURS. We were simply guests there, unwanted guests. We had absolutely NO RIGHT to take ANYTHING of theirs without permission. Period. End of story. You can try to justify this however the fuck you want, but it was their planet, not ours.

B. We weren't 'temporarily' living on another planet. We were ravaging another planet because we had already done so to ours. We were stealing their resources, destroying their home and cutting down their heritage/culture. What don't you understand about that? Did you even watch the fucking movie? Remember the tentacle things that came out of their hair and connected to EVERYTHING in that world? It's called their ancestors/culture/heritage. It is more than just a couple of sticks and stones to them... and the humans were destroying it. That's the entire point of the movie dumbfuck.

C. So if you walk into someones house in the middle of the night and they pull out a shotgun, you can shoot them? You just wanted his food. You weren't going to kill him.... but as far as he knews you were going to. It wasn't any of your business being there. He was just defending his home.

D. Just because they aren't using it doesn't mean it isn't theirs. Are you really that thickheaded man? There is a tree in my backyard I don't really use. It just sits there. Doesn't mean you can come fucking take it cause I don't use it. Again, you're a dumbass.


I think I see the problem here. You think you are more important than everyone else. You think the US Gov. can do no wrong and whatever they want to do, they have the right to do. They are better than everyone? Right? WRONG. You're one of the reasons a lot of this world hates the US. You're an egotistical self-righteous half-brained fucknut. And you're being called that by a god damn conservative. I only wonder what the liberals think of you.
 

Proprioceptive

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Feb 27, 2006
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If you weren't so fucked up in the head as you are you'd note that i have NEVER claimed to be important, it's retarded fucks like yourself who look up to some people because you have done nothing in your own life.

You apply that label but it doesn't really apply to me, the wars i have been in have been of no consequence for either US or UK, it's wars made up by politicians and none of them are really needed.

Let's face facts, shall we? We were not shipped to Afghanistan to really do anything there and as soon as we HAD done anything and were about to end it, with the Taliban and Al Quaida driven to the far east/north we were ordered out of there and it turned into some sort of humanitarian mission where training security forces was ALL that was done there.

We were not allowed to win and the more i think about how everything happened it seems to me that that was the reason for Iraq, it was so we couldn't finish the job in Afghanistan.

One thing i like is how you and Lemon Law agree on me but neither of you understand this one thing, i don't have a political leadership role, i do one thing and i do that one thing really well.

Sure, i can give you my full name and rank.

Captain Jake Agnew, Task Force Black, Special Air Service, RAF since 1988, service number 881019.

Now what you fucking twat?

Speaking from the point of view of someone who is currently an Officer Candidate in the US Army National Guard... I like you. You make me smile.
 

ProfJohn

Lifer
Jul 28, 2006
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Can we let this thread die already.

The OP is an idiot or a troll.

Either way arguing with him is a waste of time.
 

AlienCraft

Lifer
Nov 23, 2002
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If you weren't so fucked up in the head as you are you'd note that i have NEVER claimed to be important, it's retarded fucks like yourself who look up to some people because you have done nothing in your own life.

You apply that label but it doesn't really apply to me, the wars i have been in have been of no consequence for either US or UK, it's wars made up by politicians and none of them are really needed.

Let's face facts, shall we? We were not shipped to Afghanistan to really do anything there and as soon as we HAD done anything and were about to end it, with the Taliban and Al Quaida driven to the far east/north we were ordered out of there and it turned into some sort of humanitarian mission where training security forces was ALL that was done there.

We were not allowed to win and the more i think about how everything happened it seems to me that that was the reason for Iraq, it was so we couldn't finish the job in Afghanistan.

One thing i like is how you and Lemon Law agree on me but neither of you understand this one thing, i don't have a political leadership role, i do one thing and i do that one thing really well.

Sure, i can give you my full name and rank.

Captain Jake Agnew, Task Force Black, Special Air Service, RAF since 1988, service number 881019.

Now what you fucking twat?
Now, without all the sugar coating, say what? :p :D lol epic pwnage potential is high
 

silverpig

Lifer
Jul 29, 2001
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Odd, I never knew SAS were allowed to identify themselves in public. I know the JTF-2 here in Canada lead pretty secret lives. One guy a friend trained with apparently has been married for 10+ years and his wife has no idea he's in the JTF-2. She knows he's in the military, and thinks he flies to Ottawa for several week-long "training sessions" or something when he's really sent over to Afghanistan. Of course my friend never got his name or anything but was able to tell the story... sorta.
 

tyler811

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SPOILERS

Let me say the movie looked AMAZING and the special effects were mind blowing. But, about half? way into the movie, I started to want to throw up:
The main characters of the movie do a complete 180 and started MURDERING their fellow soldiers and American comrades.
I understand if you do not believe in what your government is doing - and if you believe this strongly enough you can get a dishonorable discharge from the military - but to literally a) steal American weapons and then b) use them to kill those Americans you fought side by side with and are contracted under law with to serve fully and honorably just made me sick.

When that girl helicopter pilot turned her American helicopter around and started firing at her superiors, my stomach started turning. I felt no sympathy at all when she got blown up.
Treason is arguably the WORST crime a person can commit. In fact, it is the only crime documented in the US constitution. If she wants to turn her helicopter back, refuse to fight, and get sent to prison for disobeying the law, then she can - that is her only right.


Another thing that bothered me was the fact that the natives would have gotten stomped on if 1) they did not use any of the "Sky Peoples"'s weapons or 2) they hadn't gotten extremely fortunate (those explosives were seconds from being dropped before a stolen grenade stopped it - and then the second grenade that blew the hole).

I'm not a fan of any movie that shows the American military being defeated.

Notes:
I know there are threads on the movie, but I want this thread to be specifically about this part of the movie and also about Americans being defeated in movies in general.
I am contracted in the Army ROTC.

I observer Veterans and Memorial Day by helping out with the activities here i town. It is my way of honoring those who have served and died for my right to freedom. And I thank you and every present person that serves to protect those rights.

I thought the message of the movie was also heavy handed. The first thing that came to mind was the Indians being shoved onto to reservations.

That being said.

If you can stand there and slaughter a race because they do not want your beliefs shoved down their throats or to steal what is legally and inherently theirs then you need to rethink your humanity.
 

z1ggy

Lifer
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OP= Massive tool

Why anybody is wasting there time arguing about the morals of a MOVIE with this numb nut is beyond me.

It's a movie.

It's make believe.

You know that right?