++ ATOT official NEF thread part IV ++

[MotF Bane]

At 25', the drop should be approximately 2".

 

[MotF Bane]

They are. I have to replace a bulb every few months. I've got one burned out now that's been burned out for awhile and I've been too lazy to do it.

Even replacing bulbs doesn't do much they're so awful.

 

[sdifox]

narf

 

[MotF Bane]

Regarding fanboys: I've always felt nVidia/ATI fanboys are worse than Intel/AMD.

 

[dfuze]

nerf

 

[sdifox]

Regarding fanboys: I've always felt nVidia/ATI fanboys are worse than Intel/AMD.

mostly gamers no?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Is there even an actual BD chip being tested in the wild yet? I don't understand the rabit fight without actual product :biggrin:

Yes, there have been benchmarks. Most of them have been dismissed as fakes and those that haven't are known to have been run on old steppings of engineering samples.

I got my 2600K, so at this stage, it is more morbid curiousity on my part.

 

[sdifox]

Yes, there have been benchmarks. Most of them have been dismissed as fakes and those that haven't are known to have been run on old steppings of engineering samples.

I got my 2600K, so at this stage, it is more morbid curiousity on my part.

I just want real numbers so the idiots would shutup.

 

[dfuze]

Regarding fanboys: I've always felt nVidia/ATI fanboys are worse than Intel/AMD.

agree with that 100%

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Regarding fanboys: I've always felt nVidia/ATI fanboys are worse than Intel/AMD.

I think you're definitely correct, but the CPU forum is bordering on ridiculous with the arguments and some of the insane speculation. There are AMD fanboys who are actually convinced that Bulldozer will kick ass, AMD knows it, and their master plan is to keep everything under wraps.

Come on, seriously? You can bet Intel knows just about everything about Bulldozer by now.

 

[sdifox]

nerf

or nothing!

 

[sdifox]

I pick nothing :biggrin:

 

[sdifox]

Intel should copy MS and do a massive injection of cash into AMD just to keep them afloat.

 

[alfa147x]

Intel should copy MS and do a massive injection of cash into AMD just to keep them afloat.

MS gave cash to AMD?

 

[MotF Bane]

mostly gamers no?

I don't know their motivations.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I just want real numbers so the idiots would shutup.

I generally agree with most who state that at best, it will probably fall short of the 2600K on anything requiring 4 cores or less and on anything requiring 5 to 8, it will meet or exceed it. Some guys in the CPU forum are claiming that BD isn't really 8 cores but is 8 threads (more like HT than truly having 8 cores) and its heavily multithreaded performance may come in even below the 2600K's. I don't know if that's true or not (I've not read enough about the architectures to know), but I have to believe that AMD's constant delays don't paint a pretty picture.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

MS gave cash to AMD?

No, IIRC, MS gave a ton of cash to Apple in the 90s to keep them afloat.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I don't know their motivations.

I don't either. When I look for components I generally go for bang for the buck with a few exceptions (see: i7-2600K purchase). I don't care what the brand is.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I'll probably build my box this weekend. I'm going to decommission my HTPC as well.

 

[alfa147x]

No, IIRC, MS gave a ton of cash to Apple in the 90s to keep them afloat.

Why would they do that?

 

[alfa147x]

and who the fuck thought bringing in a guy from Pepsi was a good idea.

 

[alfa147x]

Honestly after using my power mac g3 for so long I hated apple

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Why would they do that?

Here is one article -- there are probably better ones:

http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-202143.html

 

[alfa147x]

wow I bet they are starting to regret that

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Here is another article:

http://www.wired.com/thisdayintech/2009/08/dayintech_0806/