++ ATOT official NEF thread part IV ++

[IndyColtsFan]

I am thinking about this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-CL...8856646&sr=8-1

 

[sdifox]

I am thinking about this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-CL...8856646&sr=8-1

what makes you think it is better than the stock?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

what makes you think it is better than the stock?

Don't care if it is better, I just need it to be about the same.

 

[sdifox]

Don't care if it is better, I just need it to be about the same.

so, use the stock one?

 

[MotF Bane]

Xigmatek or Thermalright.

Caveat: these recommendations were valid two years ago. Now, I don't know for sure.

That stock cooler design sucks, and all Tt did there was imitate it, and probably lesser at that.

 

[MotF Bane]

so, use the stock one?

Stock is push pins, which are an evil nightmare.

Stock is easy to improve though. Snip the fan wires, and zip tie a 120mm fan onto the top. Voila!

 

[sdifox]

Stock is push pins, which are an evil nightmare.

Stock is easy to improve though. Snip the fan wires, and zip tie a 120mm fan onto the top. Voila!

I never had trouble, but then I mount chip and cpu cooler on mb before I mount mb on plate.

 

[MotF Bane]

Oh yeah, and I overslept, so I'm going to try making it to my afternoon classes.

 

[sdifox]

Oh yeah, and I overslept, so I'm going to try making it to my afternoon classes.

heavy foot might get you there slower

 

[MotF Bane]

I never had trouble, but then I mount chip and cpu on mb before I mount mb on plate.

That's how I do the mount too, but I still find push pins to be aggravating. A hard mount is so much easier to work with, and it performs better too.

 

[MotF Bane]

heavy foot might get you there slower

Or faster. :awe:

 

[sdifox]

That's how I do the mount too, but I still find push pins to be aggravating. A hard mount is so much easier to work with, and it performs better too.

meh, I don't mess with the cooler once it is properly mounted.

 

[sdifox]

Or faster. :awe:

nope, popo will be issuing you a ticket and that takes a while

 

[MotF Bane]

So the goal will be C3 at noon (still need to do the homework), then lab lecture before lab, that'll run until 5. Home through rush hour!

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Stock is push pins, which are an evil nightmare.

This x 1000. They're a pain to install and the cheap plastic usually deforms enough that it is pretty hard to reuse them. When I bought my Xigmatek RS-1283, I bought the bolt-thru kit and cut the push pins off.

At some point (once I install my H60), I will have a spare Xigmatek RS-1283 but it is too big for this particular case. Since this rig is for a 12 year-old kid and there will be no overclocking, I just need something to keep it running. Performance isn't critical; cost is more a concern and it will be on a Core 2 E6750.

I'll need to run tests tonight to see if the board is dead. If so, I'll have to grab another cheap one. Fortunately, it was only a $45 board but I am still pissed.

 

[MotF Bane]

nope, popo will be issuing you a ticket and that takes a while

Shhhh.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

so, use the stock one?

The problem is that the plastic on the push pins tends to deform once you install them. I might be able to reuse it once I disassemble everything but then again, I may not. Plus, they're a pain in the ass to install so if this board is dead (thanks push pins!), I'm going to have to get another anyway so I might as well get something that has a backplate and screws.

 

[MotF Bane]

This x 1000. They're a pain to install and the cheap plastic usually deforms enough that it is pretty hard to reuse them. When I bought my Xigmatek RS-1283, I bought the bolt-thru kit and cut the push pins off.

At some point (once I install my H60), I will have a spare Xigmatek RS-1283 but it is too big for this particular case. Since this rig is for a 12 year-old kid and there will be no overclocking, I just need something to keep it running. Performance isn't critical; cost is more a concern and it will be on a Core 2 E6750.

I'll need to run tests tonight to see if the board is dead. If so, I'll have to grab another cheap one. Fortunately, it was only a $45 board but I am still pissed.

RS-1283, I had one of those! I just made the push pins work, I forget what that machine was for. Great cooler.

How brutal were you to break the freaking board? I've gotten some crackling and popping noises from some of them, but no cooler has ever damaged a board, and I've done a lot of weird builds.

 

[sdifox]

narf

 

[sdifox]

The problem is that the plastic on the push pins tends to deform once you install them. I might be able to reuse it once I disassemble everything but then again, I may not. Plus, they're a pain in the ass to install so if this board is dead (thanks push pins!), I'm going to have to get another anyway so I might was well get something that has a backplate and screws.

ok. Never had the pushpin problem. Key is to remove the centre pin first

 

[MotF Bane]

meh, I don't mess with the cooler once it is properly mounted.

My first build was a push pin Conroe, and I ended up not getting the pins fully locked, so I had a mixture of air and AS5 between core and cooler. 65 C at idle, took me a month to figure it out.

 

[MotF Bane]

ok. Never had the pushpin problem. Key is to remove the centre pin first

I think the key is to not impale your fingertips on those little spikes all over the back of the board.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

RS-1283, I had one of those! I just made the push pins work, I forget what that machine was for. Great cooler.

It is a great cooler. I have it on my i7 right now. Temps were running a little high so I bought the H60 hoping to shave off a few degrees, but I reseated the Xigmatek and managed to shave off a couple more degrees. Now I wonder if I should just return the H60.

How brutal were you to break the freaking board? I've gotten some crackling and popping noises from some of them, but no cooler has ever damaged a board, and I've done a lot of weird builds.

The problem was that I applied downward pressure to the push pin with a flathead and the screwdriver slipped off and gashed the board. There is a noticeable gash over 2 or 3 traces. I thought I was screwed but the box did power up and actually booted to the login screen of an old Windows install on the disk I was using. I thought I was home free but then the box shut off and I haven't been able to get it to power back on. So tonight, I am going to have to test the parts that I can using a semi-functional Abit IP35-E to see what the issue is. I'm pretty sure the board is hosed but I hope nothing else got fried.

 

[sdifox]

My first build was a push pin Conroe, and I ended up not getting the pins fully locked, so I had a mixture of air and AS5 between core and cooler. 65 C at idle, took me a month to figure it out.

I said properly installed

 

[sdifox]

I think the key is to not impale your fingertips on those little spikes all over the back of the board.

I use wood blocks + foam.