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MotF Bane

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Really? I've been holding off buying a SSD waiting for don't really know what. I guess I need to look at them now.

Really. I've built about half a dozen computers, plus a bunch of incremental upgrades. In real terms, my eldest Conroe E6400 dual core did 3.6 with 4x1GB memory in its final watercooled state with... hell, an HD 3850 I think? From there, four years later, I'm running an i7 quad core with eight cores HT at 4.0 with 3x2GB memory with twin GTX 460's. There's just about nothing for programs that can access four cores; there is absolutely nothing besides benchmarks and crunching that can use eight. 6GB of memory, thanks to 7 being awesome, doesn't really give any advantages over 4GB. The only real change is the GPU hardware, and I don't game that much.

The SSD, on the other hand, all by itself, changed boot times from, oh, a minute or so, to under 20 seconds when new. Day to day, there's barely any hesitations in the computer - other than a bug in Windows Explorer drop down file locations, the hesitations are all related to Internet or server access. Even after 18 months, the SSD still puts me in the 30-40 second range for a full reboot. Photoshop CS4 loads in 3-4 seconds.
 

MotF Bane

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Unless you are getting FPS lag in your games, there is no upgrade besides an SSD that can be justified. Even if you are getting FPS lag, it's still a toss-up.
 

Barfo

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Really. I've built about half a dozen computers, plus a bunch of incremental upgrades. In real terms, my eldest Conroe E6400 dual core did 3.6 with 4x1GB memory in its final watercooled state with... hell, an HD 3850 I think? From there, four years later, I'm running an i7 quad core with eight cores HT at 4.0 with 3x2GB memory with twin GTX 460's. There's just about nothing for programs that can access four cores; there is absolutely nothing besides benchmarks and crunching that can use eight. 6GB of memory, thanks to 7 being awesome, doesn't really give any advantages over 4GB. The only real change is the GPU hardware, and I don't game that much.

The SSD, on the other hand, all by itself, changed boot times from, oh, a minute or so, to under 20 seconds when new. Day to day, there's barely any hesitations in the computer - other than a bug in Windows Explorer drop down file locations, the hesitations are all related to Internet or server access. Even after 18 months, the SSD still puts me in the 30-40 second range for a full reboot. Photoshop CS4 loads in 3-4 seconds.
Hmmm, this sounds very encouraging, I think I'll put an SSD upgrade before my sandybridge laptop. Any recommendations in the $150 range or do I need to spend more to make it worthwhile?
 

MotF Bane

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I think $200 would get you an OCZ 120GB with the new SandForce controller. $150 would probably put you around an Intel 80GB G2. Either one is good. If you need room for your files, keep a mechanical drive in the computer, put your OS and most used or most hardware intensive games/programs onto the SSD. If I were shopping for a drive right now, I'd probably go for the Intel drive. Save the $50, and the Intel drives are proven to be excellent.
 

Barfo

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I think $200 would get you an OCZ 120GB with the new SandForce controller. $150 would probably put you around an Intel 80GB G2. Either one is good. If you need room for your files, keep a mechanical drive in the computer, put your OS and most used or most hardware intensive games/programs onto the SSD. If I were shopping for a drive right now, I'd probably go for the Intel drive. Save the $50, and the Intel drives are proven to be excellent.
Are intel's drives more durable or perform better? $200 for 120GB doesn't sound so bad but if the intel is of better quality I would get that.
 

MotF Bane

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Are intel's drives more durable or perform better? $200 for 120GB doesn't sound so bad but if the intel is of better quality I would get that.

Originally, Intel was the only one that had things like TRIM, so it's not noted for degradation over usage, and it was fastest. I don't know about now, I think the SandForce SF-1200's are beating them in a majority of benchmark tests, Intel still does better in short writes or something like that, but I'd take Intel because they use a proven technology, SF-1200 is about three months old or so.
 

MotF Bane

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I'm not keeping a very close eye on it, I have my SSD, and for the moment, I'm staying with it.
 

JulesMaximus

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Really. I've built about half a dozen computers, plus a bunch of incremental upgrades. In real terms, my eldest Conroe E6400 dual core did 3.6 with 4x1GB memory in its final watercooled state with... hell, an HD 3850 I think? From there, four years later, I'm running an i7 quad core with eight cores HT at 4.0 with 3x2GB memory with twin GTX 460's. There's just about nothing for programs that can access four cores; there is absolutely nothing besides benchmarks and crunching that can use eight. 6GB of memory, thanks to 7 being awesome, doesn't really give any advantages over 4GB. The only real change is the GPU hardware, and I don't game that much.

The SSD, on the other hand, all by itself, changed boot times from, oh, a minute or so, to under 20 seconds when new. Day to day, there's barely any hesitations in the computer - other than a bug in Windows Explorer drop down file locations, the hesitations are all related to Internet or server access. Even after 18 months, the SSD still puts me in the 30-40 second range for a full reboot. Photoshop CS4 loads in 3-4 seconds.

Power on to Windows 7 fully loaded and Firefox up and online takes me about 25 seconds.

Starcraft II loads in about 6-7 seconds and I'm at the login screen.

Excel 2010 loads almost instantly.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I'm just not that excited about an SSD to be honest. Sure, it will speed things up drastically, but a new system WITH an SSD sounds so much better.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I've got another $200+ in Amazon cards to spend, so I'm trying to decide what to get. I was thinking about putting it towards a new watch.
 
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