Atlantic Ocean getting hot as hell - could be monstrous hurricane season

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pete6032

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People in the Southeast: I could never live in the Midwest. it is WAAY too cold in the winter, I just couldn't do it!

OK, well, it may be cold here, but neither my governor nor my mayor have ever told me I need to evacuate or I will die.
 

Indus

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Isn't it the job of the hurricanes to remove the heat from the ocean?

MAGA: lock phasers and quantum torpedos at the Hurricane!

Hurricane: My armor is made of corbomite!

MAGA: Universal Translator is not working!
 

K1052

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People in the Southeast: I could never live in the Midwest. it is WAAY too cold in the winter, I just couldn't do it!

OK, well, it may be cold here, but neither my governor nor my mayor have ever told me I need to evacuate or I will die.

Your home insurance rate is also probably less than 20% of what people are paying in FL, if they can find a carrier.
 

Stokely

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Yep, FL has it's own "tax" in the form of insurance (and as K1052 notes, that's if there are any left in the years ahead).

And a completely fucked future education system if that matters to you, considering what that POS Desantis is trying to build.

I love the cold personally, though I wouldn't want to commute in it. I work from home and plan to do that until I retire if I have any say in the matter. I'd move tomorrow up north if other factors allowed. And not to mention, the northern winters will be getting milder (if more erratic as weather patterns change) just as the south will continue to turn into an oven.
 

Indus

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I love the cold personally, though I wouldn't want to commute in it. I work from home and plan to do that until I retire if I have any say in the matter. I'd move tomorrow up north if other factors allowed. And not to mention, the northern winters will be getting milder (if more erratic as weather patterns change) just as the south will continue to turn into an oven.

This morning it was 54 degrees in NYC and I just went about in a T-shirt and it doesn't bother me.. but when summer rolls around and we have those 90 degree days.. I'm winded, exhausted and can't wait to get in front of the air conditioner.

I just listen to my body instead of trying to override it or pushing too hard in the heat.

Also one thing I realized from living outside the US in a hot climate is people die from heat stroke/ heart attacks much faster in a hotter climate than a colder one. It puts way too much stress on the heart!

The thing that drew the most attention to this theory of mine was James Gandolfini. And it's happened consistently to celebrities who want a warm day in the sun. Recently an aussie cricketer Shane Warne another example of that.. :(
 

Wreckem

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Dipped down to 145mph. Back up to 150mph as of the 10am cdt update. Looks like the eye wall replacement cycle is complete and it’s going to pick up speed until it hits windsheer.

Probably back to cat 5 by the 4pm update. Then probably back down to 135ish for landfall. They are expecting it to double in size before landfall.
 
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Roger Wilco

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The track has shifted south which is good news for Tampa, but this is a very densely populated coastline…

Will have to wait and see how much stronger and larger the storm gets.
 

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The track has shifted south which is good news for Tampa, but this is a very densely populated coastline…

Will have to wait and see how much stronger and larger the storm gets.

Can it hit Maralago and level it from the west?
 

Jaskalas

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People in the Southeast: I could never live in the Midwest. it is WAAY too cold in the winter, I just couldn't do it!

OK, well, it may be cold here, but neither my governor nor my mayor have ever told me I need to evacuate or I will die.
To be fair, that's cause winters have gotten very mild. And we've generally kept our electricity / heat going.
To lose heat in the middle of a bad winter would be a disaster.
 

K1052

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To be fair, that's cause winters have gotten very mild. And we've generally kept our electricity / heat going.
To lose heat in the middle of a bad winter would be a disaster.

Lived in Chicago for 15 years and lost power/gas exactly zero times. Even during the polar vortex in 2014 that hit -16F and froze jet fuel supplies at ORD.
 
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hal2kilo

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Lived in Chicago for 15 years and lost power/gas exactly zero times. Even during the polar vortex in 2014 that hit -16F and froze jet fuel supplies at ORD.
Living in Chicago from 1976 to 1980 is why I will never live in the upper Midwest again. Foot and a half of snow on the ground, so what, nothing stops. Never lost power, never told to just stay home today. One record cold year, and 2 record snow years. Made Daley's heir apparent lose his election snow cleanup got so bad. They were just plowing cars into the Belmont Harbor park parking lot in big piles.
 
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Rookie mistake (not the leaving). They need contra flow. Open up all lanes but one both directions leading away from Tampa. Leave that last one for emergency vehicles headed into the city.

TX learned that the hard way during Rita 3 weeks after Katrina when 2M+ people tried to flee. My 3 hour drive to San Antonio turned into 14 hours. The 5.5 hour drive to Dallas took 40+.

We now have specific areas of the major highways that they can reconfigure to allow most lanes to head out of the area.
 
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K1052

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Living in Chicago from 1976 to 1980 is why I will never live in the upper Midwest again. Foot and a half of snow on the ground, so what, nothing stops. Never lost power, never told to just stay home today. One record cold year, and 2 record snow years. Made Daley's heir apparent lose his election snow cleanup got so bad. They were just plowing cars into the Belmont Harbor park parking lot in big piles.

Getting more temperate all the time in recent years.
 
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To be fair, that's cause winters have gotten very mild. And we've generally kept our electricity / heat going.
To lose heat in the middle of a bad winter would be a disaster.
10 days in a major, multi-state ice storm. Millions of trees down, major high tension transmission towers bent over to the ground. Roads blocked and impassible for days. Gas stations had gas, but no power to run the pumps. Fire trucks and ambulances had to drive about 30 miles to a terminal to get fuel. Banks had money, but no power to do anything. They resorted to handing out cash to people with accounts. Stores went to cash only, no power to run CC terminals.

And it stayed below freezing for several days so not much was melting.
 
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jdubs03

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Milton is intensifying again, as expected. 155 mph. 923 mb.
Should be getting our next center fix at 4:30pm EDT. Hurricane Hunter for that should’ve already departed.

Based on its satellite presentation (clearing out eye and those cloud tops), I wouldn’t be surprised if it was back up to 165mph or more, ~915mb or lower.
 
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pete6032

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To be fair, that's cause winters have gotten very mild. And we've generally kept our electricity / heat going.
To lose heat in the middle of a bad winter would be a disaster.
I have lived all across the Midwest and never actually lost power in the winter (knock on wood)! Summer power outages are a problem in the Midwest with tornados and thunderstorms, but even blizzards in the Midwest typically don't take down power lines. My furnace went out once in Chicago during a polar vortex (single digit temps) but my house temperature only went down into the 50s. We used some space heaters in the bedrooms for a couple days while we got a new furnace. If I lost heat for a prolonged period I would probably just go stay with family.
 
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pete6032

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Your home insurance rate is also probably less than 20% of what people are paying in FL, if they can find a carrier.
I've looked at a few sites and the states with the highest coverage costs vary depending on the methodology and the website. I've seen a few sites that say Southern Midwest is the most expensive for states in Tornado Alley. How those states are more expensive than Florida is beyond my understanding. A hurricane does way more damage than a Torando.