ATi's CCC: Not the greatest but not that bad either.

[5150Joker]

With so many people claiming how slow and abysmal CCC is, I thought I'd make a quick video illustrating that it can load under 10 secs on your PC during the initial load (subsequent loads take ~2-3 seconds):

CCC Initial Load Video

Given that a lot of new XT/XTX owners are migrating from nVidia, I personally think it is worthwhile to do a complete format despite some who object to this and say it is unnecessary. It was taking CCC around 20+ secs to load before I formatted and this was even after using Driver Cleaner and a registry cleaner. Now after the initial load (~7 secs) CCC tends to load within 3 seconds when in memory.

EDIT:

Once CCC is loaded this is what the memory use looks like: http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8395/cccopen0hn.jpg


EDIT 2: Newest ATT supports X1900 cards so this thread is pretty much pointless now. ATT > CCC so go with that and while you're at it, disable ATi HotKey Poller service and use ATi Tool to set your OC profiles. Remember around 1.35-1.4 VGPU is stock for the X1900 cards.

 

[BW86]

No thanks

Stand alone driver and ATI Tray Tools for me.

 

[BFG10K]

I thought I'd make a quick video illustrating that it can load under 10 secs on your PC if you know what you're doing:

As opposed to ATi Tray Tools/nVidia's tray icon that takes zero time to load?

I'm sorry but CCC is bloated garbage whichever way you spin it.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: BW86
No thanks

Stand alone driver and ATI Tray Tools for me.

ATi Tray Tools doesn't work right now with X1900.

 

[Ronin]

And it's absolutely ridiculous that you should even have to consider reformatting because you switched manufacturers.

Using your own words, if you know what you're doing, you don't have to reformat.

 

[Ronin]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
ATi Tray Tools doesn't work right now with X1900.

Yeah....wrong.

0.25 Beta 12
- Added support for X1900 Series
- Added voltage change support for VDDCI on R580
- Fixed Adaptive AA checkbox enabled on NVIDIA
- Improved detection for "2D/3D switch enabled"
- Some debugging output removed
- Fixed negative ranges for temp. monitoring graph
- Added Yes/No question to disable 3D switch dialog
- More fixes to hotkey code
- Shift key is no longer required to display the fuses info
- Added longer delay after voltage change from profile, also put clock change as last change

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Ronin

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
ATi Tray Tools doesn't work right now with X1900.

Yeah....wrong.

0.25 Beta 12
- Added support for X1900 Series
- Added voltage change support for VDDCI on R580
- Fixed Adaptive AA checkbox enabled on NVIDIA
- Improved detection for "2D/3D switch enabled"
- Some debugging output removed
- Fixed negative ranges for temp. monitoring graph
- Added Yes/No question to disable 3D switch dialog
- More fixes to hotkey code
- Shift key is no longer required to display the fuses info
- Added longer delay after voltage change from profile, also put clock change as last change

That's ATi Tool.

 

[BFG10K]

ATi Tray Tools doesn't work right now with X1900.

It shouldn't take long to fix that.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

I thought I'd make a quick video illustrating that it can load under 10 secs on your PC if you know what you're doing:

As opposed to ATi Tray Tools/nVidia's tray icon that takes zero time to load?

I'm sorry but CCC is bloated garbage whichever way you spin it.

Like I mentioned in the title, it's not the greatest but it's not nearly as bad as you or others make it out. BTW how is it bloated? When I check the processes under task manager, the 3 CLI.exe instances take up ~17 MB of memory. What else is there?

 

[Ronin]

They're running when the damn CCC isn't. How's that for bloated?

 

[SolMiester]

After reformatting, the load times are probably quicker Joker because the Windows registry is bare period!.ie: no application loaded in windows, so of course in faster.

I seriously wonder how you can suggest people format their drive just to install a video card!

 

[akugami]

I've been a fan of ATI cards lately but the new CCC is a step backwards. It's not nearly as bad as some state, like it taking over 100MB of RAM when on my system it only takes 25-35MB. 10 seconds to load a control panel is WAY too long. The CCC seriously needs to reduce memory usage to like 5MB, or maybe 10MB tops. It also needs to reduce load time to about 3 second tops. I don't think it's as bug filled or crash prone as some might make it out to be. It's always worked for me. I think it's main problem is bloat. I'm sure if they fixed their sloppily put together CCC it would load faster and take less RAM. ATI, bring back the old control panel dammit.

 

[Keysplayr]

No thanks. There is absolutely no reason for CCC to be so sluggish and bloated for what it does. Nvidia's control panel is proof of that. I know this isn't about nvidia's CP, but what else do we have to compare it to? I would just live without it until ATI Tray Tools supports X1900's. Use in game quality settings until then. For games that don't have all the settings we would want, I'd just deal with it for a while.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: SolMiester
After reformatting, the load times are probably quicker Joker because the Windows registry is bare period!.ie: no application loaded in windows, so of course in faster.

I seriously wonder how you can suggest people format their drive just to install a video card!

Did you see my desktop? It isn't a bare installation. Like I said, from experience anytime I've switched video cards (ATi or nV) I always ran into performance issues that wern't solved until a format. If people are having problems with CCC or their new card and can't resolve it, a format isn't a big deal.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: SolMiester
After reformatting, the load times are probably quicker Joker because the Windows registry is bare period!.ie: no application loaded in windows, so of course in faster.

I seriously wonder how you can suggest people format their drive just to install a video card!

Red-tinted-glasses. fini.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Ronin
They're running when the damn CCC isn't. How's that for bloated?

A whole 17 MB is bloatware? How much system ram do you have, 256 MB? Seriously you guys that think 17 MB is bloat are blowing things way out of proportion.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: SolMiester
After reformatting, the load times are probably quicker Joker because the Windows registry is bare period!.ie: no application loaded in windows, so of course in faster.

I seriously wonder how you can suggest people format their drive just to install a video card!

Red-tinted-glasses. fini.

Hey Keys, did you change your diaper after that PM I sent you?

 

[BFG10K]

BTW how is it bloated?

This is a joke right?

When I check the processes under task manager, the 3 CLI.exe instances take up ~17 MB of memory.

My nVidia tray icon is currently only using 3 MB.

Also ATi Tray Tool's installer is less than 1 MB in size while CCC is what, 10 MB? Plus the space .NET takes.

What else is there?

Gee, I wonder how much memory .NET uses?

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

BTW how is it bloated?

This is a joke right?

When I check the processes under task manager, the 3 CLI.exe instances take up ~17 MB of memory.

My nVidia tray icon is currently only using 3 MB.

Also ATi Tray Tool's installer is less than 1 MB in size while CCC is what, 10 MB? Plus the space .NET takes.

What else is there?

Gee, I wonder how much memory .NET uses?

.NET is going to be used more and more as time goes forward even if you don't use CCC. 3 MB vs 17 MB, you guys are cracking me up! I'd understand if it was using up 100-200 MB of memory but SEVENTEEN? Gimme a break. Oh and just to clarify, I'm not some CCC fan or advocate, I'd take a faster loading CP (like the old one) over this as well. However, from what I've read of people claiming how slow it is, I found my experience to be quite the opposite. It loads in about 3 secs after the initial load and only takes up 17 MB of memory.

 

[Josh7289]

Why does your CCC take so long to load? Mine used to load up in about three-five seconds. Anyway, ATI's drivers suck, which is the sole reason I switched to Nvidia. As long as ATI isn't supporting 1:1 pixel ratio scaling for LCDs, I'm not supporting ATI.

 

[BFG10K]

NET is going to be used more and more as time goes forward even if you don't use CCC.

When nVidia's tray icon and ATi Tray Tools uses it then we can talk. Until then there is no comparison.

3 MB vs 17 MB, you guys are cracking me up!

No, this is a crack-up:

With so many people claiming how slow and abysmal CCC is, I thought I'd make a quick video illustrating that it can load under 10 secs on your PC if you know what you're doing:

I'd understand if it was using up 100-200 MB of memory

I highly doubt it. In any case what gives you the right to decide what is acceptable memory usage while trying to remove that right from me?

17 MB RAM usage, 10 MB installer size and ten second load time is unacceptable when you have a 3 MB usage, 1 MB size and zero load time utility that provides richer functionality to boot. Your thread is simply founded on fanboi delusion.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Josh7289
Why does your CCC take so long to load? Mine used to load up in about three-five seconds. Anyway, ATI's drivers suck, which is the sole reason I switched to Nvidia. As long as ATI isn't supporting 1:1 pixel ratio scaling for LCDs, I'm not supporting ATI.

Yours loaded in 3 secs during the initial load?

 

[RobertR1]

Originally posted by: Josh7289
Why does your CCC take so long to load? Mine used to load up in about three-five seconds. Anyway, ATI's drivers suck, which is the sole reason I switched to Nvidia. As long as ATI isn't supporting 1:1 pixel ratio scaling for LCDs, I'm not supporting ATI.

huh??? You can turn off scaling and run your LCD and what ever res with black bars around it or you can enable scaling and fill in the whole screen.

 

[Zebo]

Ctrl+Alt+Delete and click performance tab if you want to see how aweful they are.

 

[SolMiester]

Joker, I didnt see your desktop, I have no need to, I dont care about the CCC load time, I dont have ATI cards at present.

However, I am saying, as a IT Tech/Consultant, sprending 3-5 hours after reformatting a drive to load up all their application is NOT a viable or desirable solution for anyone. Well, maybe some kids with nothing better to do.

You would be better of writing a proper method for people to follow......

Re-format indeed!