ATi's CCC: Not the greatest but not that bad either.

[sindows]

Originally posted by: Josh7289

Originally posted by: RobertR1
huh??? You can turn off scaling and run your LCD and what ever res with black bars around it or you can enable scaling and fill in the whole screen.

With ATI's drivers? Not a chance. I and a few others on these boards all have experienced problems with ATI's drivers and 1:1 pixel ratio scaling, and not one person has ever told us they work. Which drivers are you using, and which resolutions have you tested? Perhaps ATI is giving special treatment to you because you bought an X1800XT?

Oh, and on the initial load my CCC took about 5 seconds to load. I thought that was the long amount of time everyone was talking about...

I'm not sure what you mean by 1:1 pixel scaling but if you're talking about haveing a LCD monitor and you want to display a lower than native res but don't want it to fill up the screen, ATI's cards are certainly able to do it. I'm able to "show" say 800x600 pixels while the rest of the monitor is blacked out. I've done it on ATI's onboard video, X800XL, and X300 using various drivers, the most recent being 6.1. I'd be glad to help you out but I'm not too entirely sure of what problems you have.

Anyways back on topic, I agree that CCC isn't bad but if you compare it to the "regular" drivers, it is. Its slow to launch but once it does, its not that bad. I really like the little car thing where I can see what happens when I apply AA/AF or change any of the other settings(something you can't get with those other drivers ). It sucks if you don't make it full screen though.

On a side note, why is it that I only have a choice of 3 resolutions for my 19" monitor while using my 6600gt? I remember that I had a lot more choice but when I was using red...but at the same time, my TI4800se is also able to display more res options...

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: sindows
On a side note, why is it that I only have a choice of 3 resolutions for my 19" monitor while using my 6600gt? I remember that I had a lot more choice but when I was using red...but at the same time, my TI4800se is also able to display more res options...

Use resolution adding things. It's just hiding it from you. It is perfectly capable of any resolution within it's RAMDAC frequency though.

 

[M0RPH]

CCC on my system right now after just booting up:

Memory usage: 3 CLI.exe processes using about 5-6MB
Load time: 5-6 sec initially, then 1-2 seconds afterward

So horrible, isn't it?

 

[M0RPH]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Absolutly. I went from using 62MB to almost 400MB system memory after installing ATI CCC and .net. 62 + 17 should be 79 not 400.

Please stop spreading your clueless misinformation (aka, FUD). Thank you.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: M0RPH
CCC on my system right now after just booting up:

Memory usage: 3 CLI.exe processes using about 5-6MB
Load time: 5-6 sec initially, then 1-2 seconds afterward

So horrible, isn't it?

Yep very horrible. Oh noes yours takes up 5-6 MB and mine 17 MB, the world is ending! I didn't know system ram was so hard to come by these days. You'd think a 1 gig module cost $1000 each by the way some of these guys talk. I've got 2 GB of ram, I can spare 1% towards CCC.

 

[M0RPH]

Update: Memory usage now fluctuating roughly between 12 and 17MB. Sytem feeling sluggish. System becoming UNSTABLE! OMG CCC is taking over the system! I can't hold her any longer, Cap'n! She's a gonna blow!!!

(Disclaimer: The above was intended as comedy. CCC has zero impact on my computer.)

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

NET is going to be used more and more as time goes forward even if you don't use CCC.

When nVidia's tray icon and ATi Tray Tools uses it then we can talk. Until then there is no comparison.

3 MB vs 17 MB, you guys are cracking me up!

No, this is a crack-up:

With so many people claiming how slow and abysmal CCC is, I thought I'd make a quick video illustrating that it can load under 10 secs on your PC if you know what you're doing:

I'd understand if it was using up 100-200 MB of memory

I highly doubt it. In any case what gives you the right to decide what is acceptable memory usage while trying to remove that right from me?

17 MB RAM usage, 10 MB installer size and ten second load time is unacceptable when you have a 3 MB usage, 1 MB size and zero load time utility that provides richer functionality to boot. Your thread is simply founded on fanboi delusion.

ha, QFT.

 

[imported_thefonz]

yah my CCC is only using 18mb and i just checked,

What really gets me is that people on these forums are bitching about a 1%(estimated) percent memory usage if you have a gig, or .5% if you have 2 gigs.

Oh well, I guess when your so biased about video cards that you have absoulutly nothing to bitch about, a negligable amount of memory usage of 3-5mb compared to 15-20 is something to waste your time on. :disgust:

 

[CP5670]

If switching to ATI really involves a format and not just a Driver Cleaner run, it would be reason enough for me to stay with Nvidia even if their cards sucked. It would take me several days to install and configure everything I have again and I would rather spend that time playing games.

 

[imported_thefonz]

Originally posted by: M0RPH
Update: Memory usage now fluctuating roughly between 12 and 17MB. Sytem feeling sluggish. System becoming UNSTABLE! OMG CCC is taking over the system! I can't hold her any longer, Cap'n! She's a gonna blow!!!

(Disclaimer: The above was intended as comedy. CCC has zero impact on my computer.)

LOL, thats what you get when video cards are $600+, and people need to justify thier purchases.

 

[imported_thefonz]

Originally posted by: Tom
Why in the heck is it necessary to have anything like CCC at all ? The vast majority of the time it is doing absolutely nothing.

It takes 17mb of memory to change screen resolutions ?? I remember when whole games came on one floppy and ran in 2 mb or less of memory.

Good games too, like Dungeon Master. How can it take 17 mbs to change screen resolutions ??

Anarchy!! Down with technology!!! We should Only have games that run on memory of 2mb or less :disgust:

Down with drivers, They use our memory which we have an excess of anyway.

THIS THREAD IS TERRIBLE

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: thefonz

Originally posted by: Tom
Why in the heck is it necessary to have anything like CCC at all ? The vast majority of the time it is doing absolutely nothing.

It takes 17mb of memory to change screen resolutions ?? I remember when whole games came on one floppy and ran in 2 mb or less of memory.

Good games too, like Dungeon Master. How can it take 17 mbs to change screen resolutions ??

Anarchy!! Down with technology!!! We should Only have games that run on memory of 2mb or less :disgust:

Down with drivers, They use our memory which we have an excess of anyway.

THIS THREAD IS TERRIBLE

Yeah we all have 1-2 GB of memory but damn it nothing should use it! We bought this stuff to put in our sigs to show off our e-penis, not really put to use! WTF, how dare ATi create CCC? Those dirty bastards, they're taking away our "right" to use only 3 MB of system memory and no more! 7 secs of load time is a personal affront to our sensibilites and liberties!

 

[Kalessian]

I installed CCC once on one of my ATi systems. It's not touching another one.

I'm more of a command line type of guy. The CCC is just useless special effects. I don't think I noticed any performance hit by using it, but I like to keep a tidy system. You install CCC and a few more bloated programs, and things begin to add up.

Hell, I used to disable explorer.exe when I played games (go ahead, try it).

5150, just by seeing the condition your desktop is in is enough for me to never take computer-maintenance advice from you ever.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: thefonz
yah my CCC is only using 18mb and i just checked,

What really gets me is that people on these forums are bitching about a 1%(estimated) percent memory usage if you have a gig, or .5% if you have 2 gigs.

Oh well, I guess when your so biased about video cards that you have absoulutly nothing to bitch about, a negligable amount of memory usage of 3-5mb compared to 15-20 is something to waste your time on. :disgust:

What gets me is that you're not looking at your commit charge and your VM usage. You're just looking at the exe that the CCC uses.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Kalessian
I installed CCC once on one of my ATi systems. It's not touching another one.

I'm more of a command line type of guy. The CCC is just useless special effects. I don't think I noticed any performance hit by using it, but I like to keep a tidy system. You install CCC and a few more bloated programs, and things begin to add up.

Hell, I used to disable explorer.exe when I played games (go ahead, try it).

5150, just by seeing the condition your desktop is in is enough for me to never take computer-maintenance advice from you ever.

My desktop used to be nice and tidy but then it dawned on me, "hey I got 2 GB of ram, this isn't the DOS days where memory was in short supply". You have 2 GB as well yet disable explorer.exe? What does that net you, .005 fps more? LOL.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: thefonz

Originally posted by: Tom
Why in the heck is it necessary to have anything like CCC at all ? The vast majority of the time it is doing absolutely nothing.

It takes 17mb of memory to change screen resolutions ?? I remember when whole games came on one floppy and ran in 2 mb or less of memory.

Good games too, like Dungeon Master. How can it take 17 mbs to change screen resolutions ??

Anarchy!! Down with technology!!! We should Only have games that run on memory of 2mb or less :disgust:

Down with drivers, They use our memory which we have an excess of anyway.

THIS THREAD IS TERRIBLE

Yeah we all have 1-2 GB of memory but damn it nothing should use it! We bought this stuff to put in our sigs to show off our e-penis, not really put to use! WTF, how dare ATi create CCC? Those dirty bastards, they're taking away our "right" to use only 3 MB of system memory and no more! 7 secs of load time is a personal affront to our sensibilites and liberties!

Everyone is simply stating that the ATI CCC does in fact suck. It is bloatware. It uses way more than 17MB of system memory. JUST the exe for the CCC alone uses 17MB. It obviously increases VM usage and commit charge. There is nothing wrong with saying it sucks Joker. Here, say it with me. "Teh AtI CcC iz teh suxorz."

These are not curse words. Just a plain old factoid. Zebo, and others reported dramatic memory usage increases. But you still stick to the 17MB story. Why?

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: thefonz

Originally posted by: Tom
Why in the heck is it necessary to have anything like CCC at all ? The vast majority of the time it is doing absolutely nothing.

It takes 17mb of memory to change screen resolutions ?? I remember when whole games came on one floppy and ran in 2 mb or less of memory.

Good games too, like Dungeon Master. How can it take 17 mbs to change screen resolutions ??

Anarchy!! Down with technology!!! We should Only have games that run on memory of 2mb or less :disgust:

Down with drivers, They use our memory which we have an excess of anyway.

THIS THREAD IS TERRIBLE

Yeah we all have 1-2 GB of memory but damn it nothing should use it! We bought this stuff to put in our sigs to show off our e-penis, not really put to use! WTF, how dare ATi create CCC? Those dirty bastards, they're taking away our "right" to use only 3 MB of system memory and no more! 7 secs of load time is a personal affront to our sensibilites and liberties!

Everyone is simply stating that the ATI CCC does in fact suck. It is bloatware. It uses way more than 17MB of system memory. JUST the exe for the CCC alone uses 17MB. It obviously increases VM usage and commit charge. There is nothing wrong with saying it sucks Joker. Here, say it with me. "Teh AtI CcC iz teh suxorz."

These are not curse words. Just a plain old factoid. Zebo, and others reported dramatic memory usage increases. But you still stick to the 17MB story. Why?

Commit charge before loading CCC: 341 MB.
Commit charge after loading CCC: 344 MB.

Conclusion: OH NOES TEH 3 MBs ARE USED! Run for the hills!

 

[imported_thefonz]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: thefonz

Originally posted by: Tom
Why in the heck is it necessary to have anything like CCC at all ? The vast majority of the time it is doing absolutely nothing.

It takes 17mb of memory to change screen resolutions ?? I remember when whole games came on one floppy and ran in 2 mb or less of memory.

Good games too, like Dungeon Master. How can it take 17 mbs to change screen resolutions ??

Anarchy!! Down with technology!!! We should Only have games that run on memory of 2mb or less :disgust:

Down with drivers, They use our memory which we have an excess of anyway.

THIS THREAD IS TERRIBLE

Yeah we all have 1-2 GB of memory but damn it nothing should use it! We bought this stuff to put in our sigs to show off our e-penis, not really put to use! WTF, how dare ATi create CCC? Those dirty bastards, they're taking away our "right" to use only 3 MB of system memory and no more! 7 secs of load time is a personal affront to our sensibilites and liberties!

Everyone is simply stating that the ATI CCC does in fact suck. It is bloatware. It uses way more than 17MB of system memory. JUST the exe for the CCC alone uses 17MB. It obviously increases VM usage and commit charge. There is nothing wrong with saying it sucks Joker. Here, say it with me. "Teh AtI CcC iz teh suxorz."

These are not curse words. Just a plain old factoid. Zebo, and others reported dramatic memory usage increases. But you still stick to the 17MB story. Why?

Yes the 17 Mb is just a made up story keys, you keep sticking with that.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: thefonz

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: thefonz

Originally posted by: Tom
Why in the heck is it necessary to have anything like CCC at all ? The vast majority of the time it is doing absolutely nothing.

It takes 17mb of memory to change screen resolutions ?? I remember when whole games came on one floppy and ran in 2 mb or less of memory.

Good games too, like Dungeon Master. How can it take 17 mbs to change screen resolutions ??

Anarchy!! Down with technology!!! We should Only have games that run on memory of 2mb or less :disgust:

Down with drivers, They use our memory which we have an excess of anyway.

THIS THREAD IS TERRIBLE

Yeah we all have 1-2 GB of memory but damn it nothing should use it! We bought this stuff to put in our sigs to show off our e-penis, not really put to use! WTF, how dare ATi create CCC? Those dirty bastards, they're taking away our "right" to use only 3 MB of system memory and no more! 7 secs of load time is a personal affront to our sensibilites and liberties!

Everyone is simply stating that the ATI CCC does in fact suck. It is bloatware. It uses way more than 17MB of system memory. JUST the exe for the CCC alone uses 17MB. It obviously increases VM usage and commit charge. There is nothing wrong with saying it sucks Joker. Here, say it with me. "Teh AtI CcC iz teh suxorz."

These are not curse words. Just a plain old factoid. Zebo, and others reported dramatic memory usage increases. But you still stick to the 17MB story. Why?

Yes the 17 Mb is just a made up story keys, you keep sticking with that.

Don't get into a debate with Keys. He'lll PM you to let you know that he has the upperhand in an argument and that you are a sinch and that he can see through you. Furthermore he'll stalk you afterwards in a vain attempt to prove how "smart" (I use that word loosely) he is.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: thefonz

Originally posted by: Tom
Why in the heck is it necessary to have anything like CCC at all ? The vast majority of the time it is doing absolutely nothing.

It takes 17mb of memory to change screen resolutions ?? I remember when whole games came on one floppy and ran in 2 mb or less of memory.

Good games too, like Dungeon Master. How can it take 17 mbs to change screen resolutions ??

Anarchy!! Down with technology!!! We should Only have games that run on memory of 2mb or less :disgust:

Down with drivers, They use our memory which we have an excess of anyway.

THIS THREAD IS TERRIBLE

Yeah we all have 1-2 GB of memory but damn it nothing should use it! We bought this stuff to put in our sigs to show off our e-penis, not really put to use! WTF, how dare ATi create CCC? Those dirty bastards, they're taking away our "right" to use only 3 MB of system memory and no more! 7 secs of load time is a personal affront to our sensibilites and liberties!

Everyone is simply stating that the ATI CCC does in fact suck. It is bloatware. It uses way more than 17MB of system memory. JUST the exe for the CCC alone uses 17MB. It obviously increases VM usage and commit charge. There is nothing wrong with saying it sucks Joker. Here, say it with me. "Teh AtI CcC iz teh suxorz."

These are not curse words. Just a plain old factoid. Zebo, and others reported dramatic memory usage increases. But you still stick to the 17MB story. Why?

Commit charge before loading CCC: 341 MB.
Commit charge after loading CCC: 344 MB.

Conclusion: OH NOES TEH 3 MBs ARE USED! Run for the hills!

I think maybe you should run for the hills. With your pointed tail between your legs. :laugh:

Rollo: if you can ever get that X1800XL to work, let us know the total system memory usage before, and after CCC is loaded, if you would.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: thefonz

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: thefonz

Originally posted by: Tom
Why in the heck is it necessary to have anything like CCC at all ? The vast majority of the time it is doing absolutely nothing.

It takes 17mb of memory to change screen resolutions ?? I remember when whole games came on one floppy and ran in 2 mb or less of memory.

Good games too, like Dungeon Master. How can it take 17 mbs to change screen resolutions ??

Anarchy!! Down with technology!!! We should Only have games that run on memory of 2mb or less :disgust:

Down with drivers, They use our memory which we have an excess of anyway.

THIS THREAD IS TERRIBLE

Yeah we all have 1-2 GB of memory but damn it nothing should use it! We bought this stuff to put in our sigs to show off our e-penis, not really put to use! WTF, how dare ATi create CCC? Those dirty bastards, they're taking away our "right" to use only 3 MB of system memory and no more! 7 secs of load time is a personal affront to our sensibilites and liberties!

Everyone is simply stating that the ATI CCC does in fact suck. It is bloatware. It uses way more than 17MB of system memory. JUST the exe for the CCC alone uses 17MB. It obviously increases VM usage and commit charge. There is nothing wrong with saying it sucks Joker. Here, say it with me. "Teh AtI CcC iz teh suxorz."

These are not curse words. Just a plain old factoid. Zebo, and others reported dramatic memory usage increases. But you still stick to the 17MB story. Why?

Yes the 17 Mb is just a made up story keys, you keep sticking with that.

You actually don't have a clue what I'm talking about do you?

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

I think maybe you should run for the hills. With your pointed tail between your legs. :laugh:

Rollo: if you can ever get that X1800XL to work, let us know the total system memory usage before, and after CCC is loaded, if you would.

I should run for the hills? I don't have a tail, I'm a human and evolved past the need for one long ago. I'm assuming you have one though - are you some sort of half man half beast? (it would explain the lack of intelligence). Knowing my good friend Rollo, he'll say the commit charge shoots up to 2 GB.

Signed,
Teh Devil w/the pointed tail.

 

[imported_thefonz]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: thefonz

Originally posted by: Tom
Why in the heck is it necessary to have anything like CCC at all ? The vast majority of the time it is doing absolutely nothing.

It takes 17mb of memory to change screen resolutions ?? I remember when whole games came on one floppy and ran in 2 mb or less of memory.

Good games too, like Dungeon Master. How can it take 17 mbs to change screen resolutions ??

Anarchy!! Down with technology!!! We should Only have games that run on memory of 2mb or less :disgust:

Down with drivers, They use our memory which we have an excess of anyway.

THIS THREAD IS TERRIBLE

Yeah we all have 1-2 GB of memory but damn it nothing should use it! We bought this stuff to put in our sigs to show off our e-penis, not really put to use! WTF, how dare ATi create CCC? Those dirty bastards, they're taking away our "right" to use only 3 MB of system memory and no more! 7 secs of load time is a personal affront to our sensibilites and liberties!

Everyone is simply stating that the ATI CCC does in fact suck. It is bloatware. It uses way more than 17MB of system memory. JUST the exe for the CCC alone uses 17MB. It obviously increases VM usage and commit charge. There is nothing wrong with saying it sucks Joker. Here, say it with me. "Teh AtI CcC iz teh suxorz."

These are not curse words. Just a plain old factoid. Zebo, and others reported dramatic memory usage increases. But you still stick to the 17MB story. Why?

Commit charge before loading CCC: 341 MB.
Commit charge after loading CCC: 344 MB.

Conclusion: OH NOES TEH 3 MBs ARE USED! Run for the hills!

I think maybe you should run for the hills. With your pointed tail between your legs. :laugh:

Rollo: if you can ever get that X1800XL to work, let us know the total system memory usage before, and after CCC is loaded, if you would.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
O MY GOD please don't do that again,
i actually fell over

why you ask?

A
E
G


please rollo, tell us your usage won't you, you are so very unbiased.........

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: thefonz

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: thefonz

Originally posted by: Tom
Why in the heck is it necessary to have anything like CCC at all ? The vast majority of the time it is doing absolutely nothing.

It takes 17mb of memory to change screen resolutions ?? I remember when whole games came on one floppy and ran in 2 mb or less of memory.

Good games too, like Dungeon Master. How can it take 17 mbs to change screen resolutions ??

Anarchy!! Down with technology!!! We should Only have games that run on memory of 2mb or less :disgust:

Down with drivers, They use our memory which we have an excess of anyway.

THIS THREAD IS TERRIBLE

Yeah we all have 1-2 GB of memory but damn it nothing should use it! We bought this stuff to put in our sigs to show off our e-penis, not really put to use! WTF, how dare ATi create CCC? Those dirty bastards, they're taking away our "right" to use only 3 MB of system memory and no more! 7 secs of load time is a personal affront to our sensibilites and liberties!

Everyone is simply stating that the ATI CCC does in fact suck. It is bloatware. It uses way more than 17MB of system memory. JUST the exe for the CCC alone uses 17MB. It obviously increases VM usage and commit charge. There is nothing wrong with saying it sucks Joker. Here, say it with me. "Teh AtI CcC iz teh suxorz."

These are not curse words. Just a plain old factoid. Zebo, and others reported dramatic memory usage increases. But you still stick to the 17MB story. Why?

Commit charge before loading CCC: 341 MB.
Commit charge after loading CCC: 344 MB.

Conclusion: OH NOES TEH 3 MBs ARE USED! Run for the hills!

I think maybe you should run for the hills. With your pointed tail between your legs. :laugh:

Rollo: if you can ever get that X1800XL to work, let us know the total system memory usage before, and after CCC is loaded, if you would.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
O MY GOD please don't do that again,
i actually fell over

why you ask?

A
E
G


please rollo, tell us your usage won't you, you are so very unbiased.........

LMAO! Keys is good for a laugh (at him), I'll give him that.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker


Don't get into a debate with Keys. He'lll PM you to let you know that he has the upperhand in an argument and that you are a sinch and that he can see through you. Furthermore he'll stalk you afterwards in a vain attempt to prove how "smart" (I use that word loosely) he is.

There might be some people who can beat a 142 I.Q. on these boards Joker, but somehow I don't think you're one of them. I tested two years ago and I don't think I have developed alzheimers since then. Don't really care if you believe it or not.