Athiest in society

[FuryofFive]

Im not sure how anyone else feels about this topic

my gf and her family are religious of course. i could care less. i feel thats there business or perogative. who am i to tell them other wise.
i just feel i dont wanna believe in a man in the sky or the evil beast down below...thats besides the point.

but why is it so hard to stomach that we dont believe?
we believe in all the same morals that religious believers do.
you know..thou shall not kill,steal,commit adultery, among others.

my experience has been pretty good, as in others i know dont care but there are some who really dont like it.
anyone else kinda feel the same, as in its silly that its ok for us to accept them, but the fact they dont accept us

 

[OdiN]

I really don't care what anyone believes. It's your free will to believe as you choose. So long as you are not trying to push your beliefs on others or do not discriminate or look down on others for whatever they may choose to believe, I really don't care.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
Im not sure how anyone else feels about this topic

my gf and her family are religious of course. i could care less. i feel thats there business or perogative. who am i to tell them other wise.
i just feel i dont wanna believe in a man in the sky or the evil beast down below...thats besides the point.

but why is it so hard to stomach that we dont believe?
we believe in all the same morals that religious believers do.
you know..thou shall not kill,steal,commit adultery, among others.

my experience has been pretty good, as in others i know dont care but there are some who really dont like it.
anyone else kinda feel the same, as in its silly that its ok for us to accept them, but the fact they dont accept us

just how much less could you care?

and why is it so hard for you to stomach that there are people who do believe?

 

[Arcadio]

Actually, based on what I've noticed, the real question should be it's opposite: most atheists I've met find it difficult to accept people who believe.

Most religious people don't really feel angry against atheists.

The religious "nuts" you see around try to convince everyone (atheists and people from other religions) to convert to their religion. So it's not really against atheists, but against anyone not a member of their religion.

BTW, I'm Catholic.

 

[JakwoW]

Originally posted by: Arcadio
Actually, based on what I've noticed, the real question should be it's opposite: most atheists I've met find it difficult to accept people who believe.

Most religious people don't really feel angry against atheists.

This is the opposite of my experience.

 

[OCGuy]

Except in this country, the relig-nuts try and push thier beliefs on us through legislation. That is unacceptable.

I dont care that people talk to themselves at night, or constantly give money to a false cause, that is thier business. But once they knock on my door, or try and legislate "morality", they have crossed the line.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

In my real life, very few people know that I am an atheist -- including a lot of my family. They know I'm not the Christian I once was as a young boy, but that's about as far as it goes. It otherwise never comes up, and I never/rarely make a point of making it known.

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
Im not sure how anyone else feels about this topic

my gf and her family are religious of course. i could care less. i feel thats there business or perogative. who am i to tell them other wise.
i just feel i dont wanna believe in a man in the sky or the evil beast down below...thats besides the point.

but why is it so hard to stomach that we dont believe?
we believe in all the same morals that religious believers do.
you know..thou shall not kill,steal,commit adultery, among others.

my experience has been pretty good, as in others i know dont care but there are some who really dont like it.
anyone else kinda feel the same, as in its silly that its ok for us to accept them, but the fact they dont accept us

Why not do those things? If there is no heaven or hell, why not tear it up?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: rudeguy

Why not do those things? If there is no heaven or hell, why not tear it up?

My favorite response to this inane question:

I must look myself in the mirror to shave, and my wife won't let me grow a beard.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: rudeguy
Why not do those things? If there is no heaven or hell, why not tear it up?

Not everyone has chosen to base their sense of morality on the fear of going to Hell.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: JakwoW

Originally posted by: Arcadio
Actually, based on what I've noticed, the real question should be it's opposite: most atheists I've met find it difficult to accept people who believe.

Most religious people don't really feel angry against atheists.

This is the opposite of my experience.

Yes, because you only hear from the minority zealots. Imagine all the people that don't bother you but are also very religious.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Except in this country, the relig-nuts try and push thier beliefs on us through legislation. That is unacceptable.

I dont care that people talk to themselves at night, or constantly give money to a false cause, that is thier business. But once they knock on my door, or try and legislate "morality", they have crossed the line.

How dare the relig-nuts try to pass legislation forcing people to convert to Christianity! Or how about that one that establishes Protestantism as the official religion!!!! Separation of church and state!

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
Im not sure how anyone else feels about this topic

my gf and her family are religious of course. i could care less. i feel thats there business or perogative. who am i to tell them other wise.
i just feel i dont wanna believe in a man in the sky or the evil beast down below...thats besides the point.

but why is it so hard to stomach that we dont believe?
we believe in all the same morals that religious believers do.
you know..thou shall not kill,steal,commit adultery, among others.

my experience has been pretty good, as in others i know dont care but there are some who really dont like it.
anyone else kinda feel the same, as in its silly that its ok for us to accept them, but the fact they dont accept us

just how much less could you care?

and why is it so hard for you to stomach that there are people who do believe?

i really dont care less, everyone can believe in the flying sphagetti monster and i wouldnt care. i simply made a generalized statement. i hear from my gf that her father says we should break up because i dont believe in god..

and how come on this forum all the time.. the OP gets attacked as if i was making fun of someone

 

[waffleironhead]

I am reminded of this essay by your post.


Penn Gillete: There is no god

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
Im not sure how anyone else feels about this topic

my gf and her family are religious of course. i could care less. i feel thats there business or perogative. who am i to tell them other wise.
i just feel i dont wanna believe in a man in the sky or the evil beast down below...thats besides the point.

but why is it so hard to stomach that we dont believe?
we believe in all the same morals that religious believers do.
you know..thou shall not kill,steal,commit adultery, among others.

my experience has been pretty good, as in others i know dont care but there are some who really dont like it.
anyone else kinda feel the same, as in its silly that its ok for us to accept them, but the fact they dont accept us

just how much less could you care?

and why is it so hard for you to stomach that there are people who do believe?

i really dont care less, everyone can believe in the flying sphagetti monster and i wouldnt care. i simply made a generalized statement. i hear from my gf that her father says we should break up because i dont believe in god..

and how come on this forum all the time.. the OP gets attacked as if i was making fun of someone

you fail to see your hypocricy, that is why.

 

[Nightfall]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
Im not sure how anyone else feels about this topic

my gf and her family are religious of course. i could care less. i feel thats there business or perogative. who am i to tell them other wise.
i just feel i dont wanna believe in a man in the sky or the evil beast down below...thats besides the point.

but why is it so hard to stomach that we dont believe?
we believe in all the same morals that religious believers do.
you know..thou shall not kill,steal,commit adultery, among others.

my experience has been pretty good, as in others i know dont care but there are some who really dont like it.
anyone else kinda feel the same, as in its silly that its ok for us to accept them, but the fact they dont accept us

I think the better questions are....

Why is it so far to stomach that everyone has different beliefs? Why can't people just live and let live when it comes to what they believe?

Seems that some people these days are out to change others and the way they think. I think its dumb in my opinion.

 

[FuryofFive]

explain my hypocrisy??? the fact i accept others for what they believe. but get told that i dont deserve someone or deserve to goto hell because i dont believe in a hippy who lives in the sky.
i think its you who needs to do some explaining before you throw "hypocrisy" out. i was simply saying that society as a whole tends to bend around the religious groups.. laws are made because of religious people... why cant i buy booze on sundays?? because of some religious person.
and im a hypocrite because i simply asked if anyone else felt that the acceptance didnt go both ways.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
explain my hypocrisy??? the fact i accept others for what they believe. but get told that i dont deserve someone or deserve to goto hell because i dont believe in a hippy who lives in the sky.
i think its you who needs to do some explaining before you throw "hypocrisy" out. i was simply saying that society as a whole tends to bend around the religious groups.. laws are made because of religious people... why cant i buy booze on sundays?? because of some religious person.
and im a hypocrite because i simply asked if anyone else felt that the acceptance didnt go both ways.

flying spaghetti monster, hippy who lives in the sky?

you see, you can ridicule others for believing, but they aren't supposed to judge you. that's being a hypocrite.

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: Nightfall

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
Im not sure how anyone else feels about this topic

my gf and her family are religious of course. i could care less. i feel thats there business or perogative. who am i to tell them other wise.
i just feel i dont wanna believe in a man in the sky or the evil beast down below...thats besides the point.

but why is it so hard to stomach that we dont believe?
we believe in all the same morals that religious believers do.
you know..thou shall not kill,steal,commit adultery, among others.

my experience has been pretty good, as in others i know dont care but there are some who really dont like it.
anyone else kinda feel the same, as in its silly that its ok for us to accept them, but the fact they dont accept us

I think the better questions are....

Why is it so far to stomach that everyone has different beliefs? Why can't people just live and let live when it comes to what they believe?

Seems that some people these days are out to change others and the way they think. I think its dumb in my opinion.

it is dumb, and that wasnt the topic of my post.. i was asking if others, feel the same way.
i didnt personally attack anyone. i didnt use any religions what so ever. you read about it in the new every now and then, how some atiest got rejected because of there belief. or how some religious nut did something that affects everyone

 

[Red Dawn]

I don't go around telling people in real life that I'm an Atheist and the chances of them finding out are small unless they start preaching their religious views to me then I'll tell them just to shut them the fuck up which usually works.

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
explain my hypocrisy??? the fact i accept others for what they believe. but get told that i dont deserve someone or deserve to goto hell because i dont believe in a hippy who lives in the sky.
i think its you who needs to do some explaining before you throw "hypocrisy" out. i was simply saying that society as a whole tends to bend around the religious groups.. laws are made because of religious people... why cant i buy booze on sundays?? because of some religious person.
and im a hypocrite because i simply asked if anyone else felt that the acceptance didnt go both ways.

flying spaghetti monster, hippy who lives in the sky?

you see, you can ridicule others for believing, but they aren't supposed to judge you. that's being a hypocrite.

flying sphagetti monster was a book...do ur research

 

[FuryofFive]

for those who want to see the Flying sphagetti monster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Sphagetti_Monster

 

[FuryofFive]

if i wanted to change anyone. i would certainly do it differently then coming onto a forum and asking for some opinions. sorry that anyone feels im trying to convert anyone.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
explain my hypocrisy??? the fact i accept others for what they believe. but get told that i dont deserve someone or deserve to goto hell because i dont believe in a hippy who lives in the sky.
i think its you who needs to do some explaining before you throw "hypocrisy" out. i was simply saying that society as a whole tends to bend around the religious groups.. laws are made because of religious people... why cant i buy booze on sundays?? because of some religious person.
and im a hypocrite because i simply asked if anyone else felt that the acceptance didnt go both ways.

flying spaghetti monster, hippy who lives in the sky?

you see, you can ridicule others for believing, but they aren't supposed to judge you. that's being a hypocrite.

flying sphagetti monster was a book...do ur research

hippy in the sky could be a freakin book. that doesn't change who you were referring too and who you were ridiculing.

 

[vi edit]

There are many facets of our lives that we develop deeply rooted convictions.

Just go hang out in the P&N forum for a bit and try to digest that.