AT World of Warcraft Thread (Cataclysm, Where do you play, General BS and all that)

[Blintok]

Well i am still enjoying the game immensely so glad i decided to have another kick at the game. kind of regret my recent 6month purchase of EQ2. Then again, i still have 2x60day StarWars:TOR game cards i will probably never use. Wonder if Bestbuy will let me trade them for WoW game cards?

After a couple of weeks in wow i went back to eq2 to look around and it looks so bland there now.

Maybe stupid question but: how can i confirm i am up to date on expansions?
I am pretty sure i have them all.

I assume when i check the game management screen under my account and it says
Product level : Cataclysm - Wrath of the Lich King - The Burning Crusade - World of warcraft. So that means i have all the expansions?

loved flying when i played EQ2. so in wow you get flying at level 60? and you can fly in every zone?

 

[Aikouka]

I assume when i check the game management screen under my account and it says
Product level : Cataclysm - Wrath of the Lich King - The Burning Crusade - World of warcraft. So that means i have all the expansions?

Looks like you're good.

loved flying when i played EQ2. so in wow you get flying at level 60? and you can fly in every zone?

Hmm it's probably kind of bad given how long I've been playing, but I can't remember some of them. I think you're just restricted level-wise in TBC and WotLK zones, but I can't remember if they ever removed those restrictions.

You also cannot fly in any old world zone that was introduced with TBC (Azuremyst Isle, Quel'danas, etc.) regardless of level.

 

[nageov3t]

I believe at level 60, there are two things you can train for regarding flying.

one lets you fly in Outlands/Northrend, and the other allows flying in Kalimdor/EK

 

[diesbudt]

Well i am still enjoying the game immensely so glad i decided to have another kick at the game. kind of regret my recent 6month purchase of EQ2. Then again, i still have 2x60day StarWars:TOR game cards i will probably never use. Wonder if Bestbuy will let me trade them for WoW game cards?

After a couple of weeks in wow i went back to eq2 to look around and it looks so bland there now.

Maybe stupid question but: how can i confirm i am up to date on expansions?
I am pretty sure i have them all.

I assume when i check the game management screen under my account and it says
Product level : Cataclysm - Wrath of the Lich King - The Burning Crusade - World of warcraft. So that means i have all the expansions?

loved flying when i played EQ2. so in wow you get flying at level 60? and you can fly in every zone?

If I remember right...

20 you train 60% ground speed
40 you train 100% ground speed
60 you train Outland flying 160/280% (either speeds)
70 you train Northrend flying
80 you train All Azeroth flying

And obtaining a 310% flying mount unlocks that flying speed for all other flying mounts (as long as you have 280% flying speed purchased)

 

[Josh123]

I'm sad to say that I'll probably be coming back to this game since Diablo 3 has become an epic failure. I had a friend send me a scroll of res so I could play free for 7 days and I ended up power leveling a priest to 80. I have no clue what I'm doing though so I'll probably wait until MoP is released to level a new toon.

 

[nageov3t]

If I remember right...

20 you train 60% ground speed
40 you train 100% ground speed
60 you train Outland flying 160/280% (either speeds)
70 you train Northrend flying
80 you train All Azeroth flying

And obtaining a 310% flying mount unlocks that flying speed for all other flying mounts (as long as you have 280% flying speed purchased)

I think that you automatically get "cold weather flying" for Northrend when you ding 68, as long as you have Outlands flying trained.

and I believe 310% speed was changed back towards the end of WotLK where it's simply purchased from the trainer (but anyone who had a "very fast" flying mount pre-patch was grandfathered in and given the skill automatically)

 

[diesbudt]

I think that you automatically get "cold weather flying" for Northrend when you ding 68, as long as you have Outlands flying trained.

and I believe 310% speed was changed back towards the end of WotLK where it's simply purchased from the trainer (but anyone who had a "very fast" flying mount pre-patch was grandfathered in and given the skill automatically)

Actually if you still obtain a 310% you automatically get it too. (violet proto drake, arena winning mounts. etc.)

Also I am certain you still have to purchase it and it requires level 70. Wasn't tooo long ago when i leveled a character through Northrend again and first 2 levels requires running around on foot first. I remember that.

 

[Pens1566]

You can fly in old world @60. Cold weather flying can be trained @68.

 

[nageov3t]

yeah, I'm suddenly remembering why my mage alt went into Northrend with 7 gold

 

[lupi]

You still have to buy CWF, but its cheaper and lower level req now.

Previously when playing my low level alts I'd do every zone/every quest to maximize gold/achievements. Now that they've nerffed you in xp for doing so, I've started to do less of outland to maximize my time in NR.

 

[Aikouka]

I remember when you could train it using a book that you had to purchase with your main (or really any level 80 toon). That was fun.

 

[Sid59]

Haven't played for since a few months after Cataclysm. I'm interested in expansion but I'm more interested in just having the CE MOP. Too weird?

In fact, other than talent overhaul, pandas, and monks, i don't have the slightest about this expansion.

 

[Aikouka]

I'm interested in expansion but I'm more interested in just having the CE MOP. Too weird?

I can't fault you there. I'm not that interested in playing, but I'll still probably buy the collector's edition.

 

[BigDaddyD]

I have 5 85's at this point and am waiting for the expansion to see if I stay or not. That said, if anyone needs a scroll, contact me and I will be send one out.

 

[railven]

Maybe someone here can remember, since I can't.

For Firelands (before nerfs) what were the expected values for a non-heroic group?
Tanks: HP?
Healers: HPS?
DPS: DPS?

I'm doing Firelands with a Horde Alt, and while my tank isn't super geared (as he is like my double digit alt and I really just play to help a friend) I don't remember dying so fast (or being easily killed) by Rag on my main tank.

My current tank:
ilvl 376 (only none 359+ is a trinket I have that is mastery heavy)
CTC: 102.26%
HP 178K buffed with no food/flask (this toon is poor)

I don't think I should be dying so quickly. I think our main issue is the healing for this group. Looking at the log:
Priest #1: 11-14k HPS, Priest #2: 8-9K HPS, Priest #3: 7-8K HPS + 1-2K Absorbs).

I recall my shaman having 14K+ HPS during this encounter, but it was so long ago I honestly can't remember.

 

[nageov3t]

for the life of me, I can't decide between focusing on my hunter or mage.

I want a ranged DPS class that's not a warlock and not a hybrid

 

[railven]

for the life of me, I can't decide between focusing on my hunter or mage.

I want a ranged DPS class that's not a warlock and not a hybrid

Go hunter, they are just more fun in my opinion and less competition on gear. Only other person you'll face for gear is a enh shaman and those seem to be rare anyways.

 

[lupi]

Has anyone seen the mount drop from the event?

 

[Aikouka]

My current tank:
ilvl 376 (only none 359+ is a trinket I have that is mastery heavy)
CTC: 102.26%
HP 178K buffed with no food/flask (this toon is poor)

Your HP looks fine, and is pretty similar to what my tank has, and he's in similar gear. It's good to consider that Firelands only drops ilevel 378 gear on normal, and since no one really gems for Stamina anymore (this ain't Wrath), you should be good enough in that department.

What part of Rag are you dying on? I assume the swaps are going off correctly?

I don't think I should be dying so quickly. I think our main issue is the healing for this group. Looking at the log:
Priest #1: 11-14k HPS, Priest #2: 8-9K HPS, Priest #3: 7-8K HPS + 1-2K Absorbs).

It's been way too long for me to remember our healer's numbers, but the latter two do look a little low; however, it shouldn't cause such immediate problems. I'm wondering if their numbers may be reduced because of poor synergy within the group. For example, on that fight as melee, we would adjust our positioning after taking damage so we would be within healing range. Since we wanted to avoid getting parried, we'd have to scurry on back after getting a heal. If your healers are having to move around a lot to accommodate the large spread on that fight, that might be causing your problem.

 

[railven]

Your HP looks fine, and is pretty similar to what my tank has, and he's in similar gear. It's good to consider that Firelands only drops ilevel 378 gear on normal, and since no one really gems for Stamina anymore (this ain't Wrath), you should be good enough in that department.

What part of Rag are you dying on? I assume the swaps are going off correctly?

Just seems random, through out the fight I'm rolling Cool Downs a lot more often than I remember doing it on my main before the Firelands Nerf. For example, I'm using Gaurdian almost on my second tanking attempt because I didn't get healed during my not-tanking-with-dot part. LoH is usually blown within the first 2-3 minutes of the fight, and by time we get into the second transition either someone else is dead or one of the tanks is dead.

It's been way too long for me to remember our healer's numbers, but the latter two do look a little low; however, it shouldn't cause such immediate problems. I'm wondering if their numbers may be reduced because of poor synergy within the group. For example, on that fight as melee, we would adjust our positioning after taking damage so we would be within healing range. Since we wanted to avoid getting parried, we'd have to scurry on back after getting a heal. If your healers are having to move around a lot to accommodate the large spread on that fight, that might be causing your problem.

Yeah, same I can't remember my numbers either, but they just seem too low. Since I'm not the raid leader, I'm honestly not trying to micromanage the run, but it does seem like people are taking stupid damage (from a hammer wave) but even then, I wouldn't think it should be too much for the healers to handle.

The strat we're using is more tight, so no one is out of range of the healers and since we got one melee, they sit in range of the tanks. This is 10man by the way.

Trying to be helpful to the current raid leader, but I can't remember the proper numbers and frankly I don't want to say to him "I think your healers are the reason we're dying" but I guess if I have to, I have to haha.

 

[Phoenix86]

Maybe someone here can remember, since I can't.

For Firelands (before nerfs) what were the expected values for a non-heroic group?
Tanks: HP?
Healers: HPS?
DPS: DPS?

I'm doing Firelands with a Horde Alt, and while my tank isn't super geared (as he is like my double digit alt and I really just play to help a friend) I don't remember dying so fast (or being easily killed) by Rag on my main tank.

My current tank:
ilvl 376 (only none 359+ is a trinket I have that is mastery heavy)
CTC: 102.26%
HP 178K buffed with no food/flask (this toon is poor)

I don't think I should be dying so quickly. I think our main issue is the healing for this group. Looking at the log:
Priest #1: 11-14k HPS, Priest #2: 8-9K HPS, Priest #3: 7-8K HPS + 1-2K Absorbs).

I recall my shaman having 14K+ HPS during this encounter, but it was so long ago I honestly can't remember.

Sounds like a healing issue, your tank gear is fine. You're taunting at 2-3 stacks?

Remember the previous tier was 359 so a group progressing from normal on the previous tier would have had full 359s+a few fireland normal drops. Then it was nerfed.

 

[railven]

Sounds like a healing issue, your tank gear is fine. You're taunting at 2-3 stacks?

Remember the previous tier was 359 so a group progressing from normal on the previous tier would have had full 359s+a few fireland normal drops. Then it was nerfed.

I'm getting ~3 stacks as the "lower geared" tank (frankly put I got more tanking experience than the main tank/raid leader but...yeah don't want to start crossing e-peens if you know what I mean haha) and he decides to take 5+ stacks. I've tried to explain to him the mechanics, but I get "most of us are geared beyond this" routine that I frankly just started to do my job.

As a RL/GM myself, I try not to step on people's toes when I'm a guest, and if my suggestions aren't worth listening to I'll keep them to myself.

I've tippy-toed around the healers, only direct confession from the GM/RL that there might be a problem is "some of our healers aren't raid experienced." This is a super casual PVP-focused guild so I'd rather not try to create issues haha.

I'm just double checking it isn't my tanks issue since I don't focus much time/attention on this toons gear. I'm surprised he had the gear he had though haha. I must have gotten super lucky on my LFR runs (4pc t13 bonus already.)

 

[diesbudt]

Maybe someone here can remember, since I can't.

For Firelands (before nerfs) what were the expected values for a non-heroic group?
Tanks: HP?
Healers: HPS?
DPS: DPS?

I'm doing Firelands with a Horde Alt, and while my tank isn't super geared (as he is like my double digit alt and I really just play to help a friend) I don't remember dying so fast (or being easily killed) by Rag on my main tank.

My current tank:
ilvl 376 (only none 359+ is a trinket I have that is mastery heavy)
CTC: 102.26%
HP 178K buffed with no food/flask (this toon is poor)

I don't think I should be dying so quickly. I think our main issue is the healing for this group. Looking at the log:
Priest #1: 11-14k HPS, Priest #2: 8-9K HPS, Priest #3: 7-8K HPS + 1-2K Absorbs).

I recall my shaman having 14K+ HPS during this encounter, but it was so long ago I honestly can't remember.

Tank is fine geared. Healers HPS is low AND I bolded the other issue...

 

[Aikouka]

Tank is fine geared. Healers HPS is low AND I bolded the other issue...

Hey now, GC said we can bring any class to the raid!

We use a Druid, Shaman and (usually Holy) Priest for healing.

EDIT:

On another note, we should be finishing up our last achievement for the DS meta this week. We just need the Hagara one, and we're done raiding... yay!

 

[railven]

Tank is fine geared. Healers HPS is low AND I bolded the other issue...

Hey now, GC said we can bring any class to the raid!

We use a Druid, Shaman and (usually Holy) Priest for healing.

EDIT:

On another note, we should be finishing up our last achievement for the DS meta this week. We just need the Hagara one, and we're done raiding... yay!

The GM in this guild really sticks to that mentality. I personally didn't think 3 priests in old content with a nerf would be an issue.

I still don't think that, well if all 3 priests were raid experienced.