AT World of Warcraft Thread (Cataclysm, Where do you play, General BS and all that)

[Anubis]

lol now it looks fine

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Its a random draw. Ive gotten in by queuing with less than a minute left before.

 

[coloumb]

I run TB every time I can. I enjoy it, it's just when the group doesn't listen to logic it drives me nuts.

99% of the time - the alliance side fail to listen to reason and fail to win TB [and AB, WSG, and Eye of the storm].

I think alliance on the server I play on have the mentality of "honor farming" rather than faction farming [gaining access to 6 more quests and an pvp epic drop dungeon]

 

[RatboyX]

Hard enough to get a five man pug to listen to reason and follow a good plan, getting an entire battlefield group to work together is never going to happen. I think Blizzard often overestimates the majority of their player base. Without a doubt there are groups of people do everything they can to play at a high level and are willing to listen and learn. But the majority... well we all know what to expect.

I’ve never used it but didn’t Blizzard implement an in game voice comm option? Have any of you used it and is it any good? I ask because I don’t plan on giving people I PUG with access to my Vent server but I would love to have a way to coordinate with PUG groups in game.

 

[rh71]

We don't have problems on ally side getting people to Zerg a specific base but if you ask like a small Group to go somewhere random to run interference they won't.

Of course if you have a tough time getting in, you're horde. So sick of the population imbalance. I get in 95% of the time no problem.

It does seem that more ppl try harder when they're on D because it's much easier to win. One day ally was on d and we held it nearly the whole day. Yesterday horde had it all day. As luck would have it, I need 5 more badges for the ground mount and can only get it today if we take it over.

 

[rh71]

Don't know if voice chat is still there but I think guilds prefer vent because if the server goes down or you dc then you can still communicate. as for pugs, good luck getting them even chatting.

 

[cronos]

I was very late to the Cataclysm instance because I only had a few hours every other day to play, so I ended up questing three characters to 85 without trying the instances. Anyway, I finally went on my two very first normal instances in the past couple of days through random LFD. Healing on my Paladin at Tol'vir, and as DPS on my DK at Grim Batol.

Healing is definitely brutal. Throughout the instance, after a few wipes and a few tank changes, it is pretty apparent to me as a healer without looking at the tank's gear which ones actually know what they're doing and have a decent amount of avoidance and which ones are just stacking stamina. The difference in healing these two types is like night and day!

On the DPS I think I got lucky and got a very good group, well at least the tank and heal, which are what matters. The run was very smooth without a single wipe. I finished around 8k DPS and the other two are 4.5k and 5.5k. I still couldn't even queue for heroic though (says I need 329 and I only have 328).

So should I just be running these normals until I get enough upgrades to bump my average up? I'd rather not buy the outrageously priced 359 epics in the AH. Right now the DK does not have any gear below 318, but I guess it's still way too many of the lower level items instead of the 333s and the 346s.

 

[tHa ShIzNiT]

Yep. Just do 1 or 2 more normals and you should meet the heroic gear requirement.

Also, man that's pretty high dps for a fresh 85. DK's are known for that right now though. They start off good and get even better with gear.

 

[tHa ShIzNiT]

My guild is using a new-ish program called Mumble instead of Vent. I dont have much experience with it yet but it seems pretty awesome. It actually projects a list of who is in your channel INTO your wow window. Then their names light up when they talk. I don't know how it does it but its pretty nice.

 

[Moonzi]

Mumble is awesome we're trying to migrate to that now, and it's free!

 

[bonkers325]

i gave up trying to get into TB. i can queue at 14:59:59 and not get in, both O and D, i only have the victory achieve because of the bridge exploit and getting lucky with the lag. SO i cant really comment on it other then the fact that one side is at a very obvious disadvantage by design always seems really stupid to me. and TBH having it flip flop every battle is honestly the best way of doing it.

right now i log on check it once, if we have it i do 12 daily's, if not i do 6 and don't bother checking again

with the way TB queues, it usually works against the higher population faction. on my PvE server, alliance outnumbers horde 2:1, but alliance never wins TB unless we throw it simply because half the people who queue into TB have no resilience gear. they get facerolled by horde players who have 3k resilience. its not hard to defend against a zerg when most enemies can be two-shot and only deal ~half damage to you.

 

[cronos]

Yep. Just do 1 or 2 more normals and you should meet the heroic gear requirement.

Also, man that's pretty high dps for a fresh 85. DK's are known for that right now though. They start off good and get even better with gear.

I was pretty happy with it too. I was testing stuff on the dummy first and I couldn't go higher than 6.5k and that's with popping all my cooldowns. I guess other people's buff (and trash packs!) makes a difference It was my first dungeon run since June last year and with all the horror stories I've heard all around, I didn't want to be 'that DK in the group' performing horribly.

The DK was a fresh 85, although to be fair I did equip her with all the rep gear that she could get, some cheap enchants, and also she's a BS/JC so that's a couple of decent BS crafted blue gear, two basically free extra sockets and a couple of JC uber gems to go with them.

 

[Anubis]

with the way TB queues, it usually works against the higher population faction. on my PvE server, alliance outnumbers horde 2:1, but alliance never wins TB unless we throw it simply because half the people who queue into TB have no resilience gear. they get facerolled by horde players who have 3k resilience. its not hard to defend against a zerg when most enemies can be two-shot and only deal ~half damage to you.

lol i have 0 resilience gear, and have no plans on ever getting any

waste of bag space IMO

 

[blurredvision]

I’ve never used it but didn’t Blizzard implement an in game voice comm option? Have any of you used it and is it any good? I ask because I don’t plan on giving people I PUG with access to my Vent server but I would love to have a way to coordinate with PUG groups in game.

Voice chat built in is still there but the last time I tested it, which honestly was at least a year ago, it was complete shit and not the most straight-forward thing to get set up and going.

As for letting pugs have "access" to your vent, I don't really see that as an issue. Hell, I bet you could give your password out in trade and you still wouldn't be able to get people to use it without your permission. My guild doesn't even keep a password on our vent. If someone uses it without permission, we'll ban their IP and go on with our lives.

My guild is using a new-ish program called Mumble instead of Vent. I dont have much experience with it yet but it seems pretty awesome. It actually projects a list of who is in your channel INTO your wow window. Then their names light up when they talk. I don't know how it does it but its pretty nice.

I tried moving my guild over to Mumble last summer, but we kept having issues every week with one or two people not showing or not being able to make raid night, so trying to get a pug to download and use Mumble was a fucking hassle. I've heard of some servers moving wholesale to Mumble as the preferred voice chat program (i.e. everybody already has it installed and use it regularly), but most servers still use vent (or even teamspeak) as the go-to program.

A friend and I did some testing on Mumble once and found Mumble lag to be immensely better than Vent at the same compression. It wasn't a widespread test or anything, just using what we had, but Mumble was great. I'd suggest using mmo-mumble.com if you need to purchase the hosting, it's a ton cheaper than vent services I've seen.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Ugh I wanna transfer my toon to play with friends but its gonna be 25 for server change and 30 for faction change.

 

[Anubis]

. I'd suggest using mmo-mumble.com if you need to purchase the hosting, it's a ton cheaper than vent services I've seen.

if you know what you are doing you can host the mumble server yourself for nothing. Well it costs whatever your hosts costs but it uses dick for data and chances are if you have a guild website you could simply run it off that

 

[Chacotako]

I setup a mumble server about seven months ago primarily for TF2. Prior to that I had vent going and I can tell you there's a pretty big difference in latency alone. I love it

 

[blurredvision]

I setup a mumble server about seven months ago primarily for TF2. Prior to that I had vent going and I can tell you there's a pretty big difference in latency alone. I love it

Definitely a big difference. When my friend and I tested, I basically spoke into the mic, "1....2....3....4." I kept the same pace between the numbers and instructed my friend to let me say one through three while he attempts to say four along with me. We did this on vent and mumble. With mumble, his voice coming through was pretty damn close to mine, definitely less than a half-second. Vent was probably between a half-second and a second, more towards a second, and that was on a typefrag server.

 

[HybridSquirrel]

time for me to cancel my sub.....lol school =[

 

[coloumb]

TB without Resilience gear is like jumping naked into a swimming pool full of razors. I figured I'd try to see why Alliance wasn't winning - jumped in with my shadow priest with ZERO resilience, targeted a horde [who happened to be a warrior] and did ZERO damage - I can only assume he was decked out in PVP gear.

I'm about at the point to start getting back into the healbot role - but I keep hearing how brutal it can be.....

 

[lupi]

Haven't stepped into TB yet. Everytime people in guild start talking about it around launch time seems most of the guild gets stuck in queue as alliance still not really showing up.

 

[1ceHacka]

lol i have 0 resilience gear, and have no plans on ever getting any

waste of bag space IMO

Glad you aren't in my TB then. Really you need resilience to be worth the spot in the raid. Either that or you better be in heroic raid gear. I run about 3500 resil for TB.

We hold TB on my server 90% of the time (Horde). Sometimes we lose it during the wee hours of the morning, but then win it back pretty quickly.

 

[Anubis]

Glad you aren't in my TB then. Really you need resilience to be worth the spot in the raid. Either that or you better be in heroic raid gear. I run about 3500 resil for TB.

We hold TB on my server 90% of the time (Horde). Sometimes we lose it during the wee hours of the morning, but then win it back pretty quickly.

while that post was serious it was made in jest poking fun at the fact that i don't PVP at all. and i actually take this to the extreme. if i get attacked while doing daily's, i stand there, put my pet on passive and spam a /golfclap macro and let them kill me. Turns out that annoys people more then i would have thought. the hate tells are hilarious as well as the forum posts. Best is ive actually had a few people stop killing me and do a /sorry and went away

I have no interest in it and cont really care about TB. I stopped queueing for it once i got the victory achieve doing the bridge thing. we always have it long enough for me to do BH once a week and that's all that really matters to me.

 

[RatboyX]

if i get attacked while doing daily's, i stand there, put my pet on passive and spam a /golfclap macro and let them kill me. Turns out that annoys people more then i would have thought.

Lol I will try that sometime. I’ve no great interest in Pee V Pee myself but TB is unique situation. Winning TB gives access to the six daily quests in the BG area which give good gold along with Warders Rep and Warders Commendations. So for TB at least there is good reason for me to run PvP even though it’s not my favorite thing to do. There is also the raid content available when the BG is in your faction and that’s another reason to want it. Trust me if it weren’t for all that I wouldn’t bother with PvP.

The weapons that can be purchased with Commendations look to be some of the best you can get pre raid drop and the trinkets are excellent for some classes. I’ve finally gotten the rest of my guild fired up about the TB quests so every time I log in someone is asking for help with the “Tank” quest. Harder to get any of them to queue for the BG unless we are defending.

 

[Anubis]

IIRC there isnt a 1 handed SP wep for casters from them

I already have the Hit trinket and the mirror of broken raid encounters one