AT World of Warcraft Thread (Cataclysm, Where do you play, General BS and all that)

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lupi

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Oh, and with the negative ICC effect removed, does the bonus one still exist?



And has anyone checked to see if patch being applied yet. Logged in this morning before leaving for work and didn't get any patch notification yet, just let me into the char select screen and showed all worlds down.
 

FallenHero

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Oh, and with the negative ICC effect removed, does the bonus one still exist?



And has anyone checked to see if patch being applied yet. Logged in this morning before leaving for work and didn't get any patch notification yet, just let me into the char select screen and showed all worlds down.

yeah, it's being applied. You can download it now.
 

Moonzi

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Do the downloads continue through?

I started the 4.0 download this morning and it took maybe 30 seconds for the 4.96GB, will 4.0.1 start automatically once the update has finished, I can't remember...
 

lupi

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Given that we've already d/l like 5 gb of it, I don't think much new data will be coming, mainly verifying what you have, get a couple meg for the latest changes, then start the install process.
 

jhbball

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BTW, Rank 1 again guys. Had to stay up til 3 easten (i'm in MI) to make sure the competition couldn't hit 3k. They couldn't of course :D

Xanadu - Prot Warrior - Sargeras
 

FallenHero

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Given that we've already d/l like 5 gb of it, I don't think much new data will be coming, mainly verifying what you have, get a couple meg for the latest changes, then start the install process.

about 70 megs from the downloader, then the patch applies, then another gig after that from the new launcher...not exactly sure what it is downloading, but it is almost a gig in size. You can play after about 100 megs of it is D/L though. Isn't too shabby.
 

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I have come back from nearly a 15 month break. I thought I was done with WoW forever...

So I was terribly surprised after I started playing and actually enjoyed myself. Early last year I was primarily a tanking/DPS DK and it got really old trying to get into PUG's (sorry, full on DKs...).

When I came back I decided to focus on my warrior (Prot/Fury) instead...and I'm so glad I did. As a DK I really liked frost tanking and I was bummed to hear blood is the new tanking tree. The new dungeon finder system has been so awesome for a tank--I can get an insta heroic just about anytime.

I have a lvl 70 mage that has some BoA stuff that I am thinking about playing as an alt, however, I'm concerned that if I ever did get to 80 finding groups to run heroics as DPS is gonna really suck.
 
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rh71

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holy shiznit this installer is taking FOREVER AND A HALF to complete... it's been nearly an hour and it's only 60% done. Q6600 2.4GHz quad core w/ 4GB RAM machine too. This is after the downloads folks. And it appears FallenHero mentioned there's another gb to download after this.

EDIT>> and after all that it tells me my 15gb of space on the drive was not enough and cancelled it...

When I came back I decided to focus on my warrior (Prot/Fury) instead...and I'm so glad I did. As a DK I really liked frost tanking and I was bummed to hear blood is the new tanking tree. The new dungeon finder system has been so awesome for a tank--I can get an insta heroic just about anytime.
I love the new system too... my alt was tanking heroics and it was a good way to gear my dps spec... doing the same right now with my noob resto sham gearing for enhancement leveling cata. I have 3min queues, which is better than 13mins for dps.
 
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nageov3t

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Its not that bad. It just takes between 10-15 mins instead of one second if you're a healer or tank.
that's been my experience as well.

I never had a problem running my daily random on my rogue, I'd just queue up and go do the cooking/fishing dailies while waiting.
 

Malladine

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BTW, Rank 1 again guys. Had to stay up til 3 easten (i'm in MI) to make sure the competition couldn't hit 3k. They couldn't of course :D

Xanadu - Prot Warrior - Sargeras

rank 1 what? i'd look you up but i'm @ work
 

lupi

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We've previously unveiled some of the stat changes that are coming with Cataclysm, including stat alterations, stat removals, or changes to how they're obtained. This is an update to that preview intended to explain the actual changes and to detail what everyone will be seeing on their characters.

Stat Changes
Stamina - Due to the assigning of Strength, Agility, and Intellect, non-plate wearers have more Stamina than before. Health pools are now much closer between plate-wearers and other classes.

Spirit - This stat should only be found on healing gear. Non-healing casters have other systems in place to regenerate mana.

Intellect - Intellect now grants Spell Power and increases your Critical Strike chance with spells.

Haste - Haste should now be more attractive for melee classes by allowing them to recover resources such as rage, energy, and runes more quickly. Our intention is for Haste to let you "do stuff" more often.

Parry - Parry provides the same avoidance as Dodge, and you'll receive a percentage of your strength as Parry Rating.

Mastery - This is a new stat that will allow players to become better at whatever makes their chosen talent tree cool or unique. It's directly tied to talents, so what you gain from improving this stat is entirely dependent upon your class and the talent specialization you choose. We’ll talk more about specific Mastery benefits in the future.

Armor - The amount of bonus Armor received per stat point on items has been drastically reduced, and Armor is no longer given by Agility. In addition, Armor now better mitigates differences among Armor types so that protection from mail, leather, and cloth is much closer to that of plate.

Resilience - This now only affects damage done by players and their pets. It will not impact crit chance, crit damage, mana drains, or other such effects.

Removed From Items
Attack Power - This stat is rarely present on items, although it is derived from other stats. Strength and Agility, which are present on items, grant the appropriate amount of Attack Power (generally 2 Attack Power per point of Strength or Agility) depending upon which stat a particular class favors.

Block Rating - Block has been redesigned to scale better. Blocked attacks will simply hit for 30% less damage. Block Rating is no longer given out directly as a stat. Instead, Mastery for Protection paladins and Protection warriors increases the chance to block.

Spell Power - Spell Power is no longer present on most items. Instead, as mentioned above, Intellect now grants Spell Power. One exception is that caster weapons still have Spell Power. This allows us to make weapons proportionately more powerful for casters in the same way they are for melee classes.

Armor Penetration - This stat is no longer present on items. Armor Penetration still exists in talents and abilities.

Shield Block Value - There are some effects that increase the Block value by a percentage, but this does not exist as a stat.

Removed From the Game
MP5 - This stat no longer exists in the game. Holy paladins and Restoration shaman have been redesigned to benefit from Spirit.

Defense - Defense is now removed from the game. Tanking classes will become uncrittable versus creatures by shifting into Defensive Stance, Blood Presence, or Bear Form, or by using Righteous Fury.

Spell Ranks - Spell ranks now cease to exist. All spells have one rank and will scale appropriately by caster level. The levels at which you can learn certain spells have been changed in order to fill in some of the gaps, and there are many new spells to learn along the way as well.

Weapon Skill - This stat will be removed from the game completely. Classes will start with all the weapon skills they need to know and will not need to improve them.

What Else You Should Know
Combat ratings - Ratings are much harder to "cap out" at maximum gear levels. Ratings are steeper in Cataclysm, and creatures in later tiers of content will be harder to hit or crit, similar to how level-83 mobs are harder to hit or crit than level-80 mobs.

Reforging - This new itemization customization feature allows you to partially change the stats on an item. You can reduce the value of an existing stat on an item, and add an equivalent amount of another stat that was not already present on the item. This makes it far easier to reach important thresholds like the Hit Rating and Expertise Rating caps.
 

BassBomb

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Which will be better, mage, rogue, shamen, or druid? They're all 80 .. not sure who I should play into WoTLK with.

I'd probably take the druid up first if you have no extra attachment to your other chars

I have a Rogue or Paladin to take to 85... I will do my Rogue first like I always do since he is always my "completion" character
 

rh71

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fyi you need at least 16gb of space on the drive you have WoW installed or you'll waste_a_lot_of_time when it decides to tell you toward the end of 1.5 hrs that you ran out of space.
 

Aikouka

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fyi you need at least 16gb of space on the drive you have WoW installed or you'll waste_a_lot_of_time when it decides to tell you toward the end of 1.5 hrs that you ran out of space.

Sounds like someone needs a SSD stat ;). I assume the WoW install will do some decent random reads and writes as it's probably overwriting a lot of that old and now defunct WoW data.
 

bl4ckfl4g

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"Weapon Skill - This stat will be removed from the game completely. Classes will start with all the weapon skills they need to know and will not need to improve them. "

Wow that's awesome. So no need to go train weapon skills at all..My 71 Hunter still only has the default weapon skills. I levelled him up so fast I never bothered. Same with my warrior.
 

lupi

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been going through update process for about 35 minutes or so now and about 37% done.
 

lupi

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We’re in the process of transitioning many of our internal tools to the new patch and are currently experiencing a longer than anticipated time to completion. We’re now estimating maintenance to be completed and realms available by 4:00 p.m. PDT. We’re working to get you in-game as quickly as possible. Thank you for your patience.
 
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