AT World of Warcraft Thread (Cataclysm, Where do you play, General BS and all that)

[thescreensavers]

Anyone knows what happens when you hit 20 on the trail account? Does it say its over?

 

[manko]

Anyone knows what happens when you hit 20 on the trail account? Does it say its over?

I assume your exp is just capped at 20. There's probably some in-game notice ("buy the game to continue leveling"). Otherwise, I think you can just wander around and kill stuff forever at level 20.

 

[thescreensavers]

^ Thats what I was thinking but the GM had no idea, I am bored so instead of paying to activate my account just playing on a trial leveling up chars lol.

 

[Adrenaline]

Warlock pet bug:

My imp does NOT cast. The attack button flashes but no fireballs shoot out. The only way to get it to work is to macro everyone of my attacks to make the imp attack with me.

I actually called Blizzard and the guy I talked with informed me that Mages were having the same issue with their Elemental.

 

[Aikouka]

Shaman totems are pretty dumb as well. It's not uncommon for me to have to replant mine at the start of the fight because it simply sits there refusing to attack.

 

[lupi]

Warlock pet bug:

My imp does NOT cast. The attack button flashes but no fireballs shoot out. The only way to get it to work is to macro everyone of my attacks to make the imp attack with me.

I actually called Blizzard and the guy I talked with informed me that Mages were having the same issue with their Elemental.

I had the occur to me on occasion back in 4.0 or 4.1. no frekin idea why.

 

[lupi]

Update - For the record, the international codes 009 and 041 only seems to appear on Blizzard's online games trademarks. This isn't a book or anything like that. It appears incredibly likely based on previous trademarks obtained by Blizzard that this is the next expansion.


Mists of Pandaria
Blizzard just trademarked a very interesting "Mists of Pandaria".

 

[rivan]

I'm not sure why, but that attorney's name is really funny to me, especially when in all caps.

ROD A RIGOLE

 

[thescreensavers]

lol ugg

so I a leveled a druid in SFK I am tanking, +5 strength +3 stam ring drops and healer and hunter needed it. I left. Hunter: there are no agi rings until later, strength still helps dps"

this guy was in hairloom gear, what a noob

 

[rivan]

lol ugg

so I a leveled a druid in SFK I am tanking, +5 strength +3 stam ring drops and healer and hunter needed it. I left. Hunter: there are no agi rings until later, strength still helps dps"

this guy was in hairloom gear, what a noob

Just take solace that you'll be whatever level you are for about another 8 minutes.

 

[cronos]

The discussion about this panda thing in MMO-Champ is pretty hilarious

 

[Bryf50]

I really hope that's not the title of the new expansion. That sounds incredibly stupid and the whole Panda thing was never funny. "Mists of Pandaria" sounds like a game I'd buy for my 6 year old niece.

 

[lupi]

World of Warcraft lost another 300,000 Subscribers last quarter, Patch 4.3 this year
Activision Blizzard latest earning call revealed that World of Warcraft lost another 300,000 subscribers last quarter, following the loss of 600k subscribers announced last quarter.

In this conference call we also learned that:

•The next patch will include "major raid and dungeon content", we can most likely expect a raid and a 5-man from Patch 4.3
•Patch 4.3 will be the "largest content update since Cataclysm"
•It will be released later this year, which means that we can probably expect a PTR soon.

It's also worth noting that despite the loss of players, Mike Morhaime pointed out that the new trial system resulted in an increase in new account creations. For more details on the earning call, go check the coverage on sites such as Venturebeat or Gamasutra.

 

[cronos]

I really hope that's not the title of the new expansion. That sounds incredibly stupid and the whole Panda thing was never funny. "Mists of Pandaria" sounds like a game I'd buy for my 6 year old niece.

Yes, these are the type of comments that I think are hilarious. People are mad about WoW who may become a 'kiddy's game' because the next expansion may be about pandas

I don't think three words have ever been so powerful to make a lot of people imagine things that they're not actually describing at all. I guess we can partly blame Dreamworks for making Kungfu Panda a recognizable brand. lol.

Personally, the more I see the QQ about this the more I want it to be really about the pandas, and that Pandaren become the new playable race. It sounds like absolute fun to me. Plus the bonus enjoyment in reading the complaints and all the sweet tears of QQs will be such a treat I will reward Blizzard by reactivating my subscription again for a couple of months

 

[Hacp]

World of Warcraft lost another 300,000 Subscribers last quarter, Patch 4.3 this year
Activision Blizzard latest earning call revealed that World of Warcraft lost another 300,000 subscribers last quarter, following the loss of 600k subscribers announced last quarter.

In this conference call we also learned that:

•The next patch will include "major raid and dungeon content", we can most likely expect a raid and a 5-man from Patch 4.3
•Patch 4.3 will be the "largest content update since Cataclysm"
•It will be released later this year, which means that we can probably expect a PTR soon.

It's also worth noting that despite the loss of players, Mike Morhaime pointed out that the new trial system resulted in an increase in new account creations. For more details on the earning call, go check the coverage on sites such as Venturebeat or Gamasutra.

The problem with Wow is that blizzard has gone too cookie cutter.Some examples are

-All the gear looks the same. Same stats, stam int and 2 secondary stats. Gear with no stam? Doesn't exist. Gear with 3 secondary stats? Nope.

-Raids are too micromanaged. What do I mean by that? Restricting potion usage. Restricting battle res. You limit choices for raids. Yes, it needs to be done to control the race for world firsts, but it also hurts the fun of guilds not in the world first race.

-PvP gear. In vanilla Wow, you had one set of gear and that was it. You could use it to PvP or PvE. The requirements to constantly PvP to get PvP specific gear limits the fun for people looking to do battlegrounds just once in a while. It takes too much effort if you're going to need to grind a whole new set of gear just to do some BGs a few times a week.

-Lack of community. This is the biggest issue. Random Heroics, flying mounts, insta teleport dungeons, and phasing has basically eliminated the sense of community in wow. You will almost never meet anyone else in the world unless the zone is a daily grind spot.

 

[Aikouka]

-Lack of community. This is the biggest issue. Random Heroics, flying mounts, insta teleport dungeons, and phasing has basically eliminated the sense of community in wow. You will almost never meet anyone else in the world unless the zone is a daily grind spot.

I think this is one of the biggest differences between now and what it was like in vanilla WoW. Right now, I pretty much only know people that I was in a guild with or am currently in a guild with. Back in vanilla, I knew a bunch of people on the Alliance and Horde side as well, and we were all chummy. I remember leveling up in Hellfire Peninsula, and the Horde were ganking all of the Alliance people up on the hills, but they just left me alone. Such good times.

 

[Scotteq]

-Raids are too micromanaged. What do I mean by that? Restricting potion usage. Restricting battle res. You limit choices for raids. Yes, it needs to be done to control the race for world firsts, but it also hurts the fun of guilds not in the world first race.

For one, I do not miss - not even for an *instant* - having to have 4 flasks, 2 stacks of Strength pots, 2 stacks of Agility pots, 2 stacks of Armor pots... and the absolutely, stupidly, ridiculous amount of time and effort it takes to maintain that on a 3~4 day/week raiding schedule.

The battle rez's, and replication of raid buffs & debuffs is a result of Blizz having to make concessions for 10 man raiding: There was plenty of room to get whatever you needed in a 40 man. Raid comp was a little more limited in 25's, but not too badly. But with the rise of 10's, the old~style ability spread led to aggressive guilds having set comps, and rotating players in/out of the raid based solely on whether something was perceived as "needed" for a particular boss.

For obvious reasons (i.e. - it fucking sucks to have to park/sit outside while your guildies are raiding... just in case they decide they need "[Curse of Elements]" or whatever your class brought. And it *really* fucking sucks to be valued sole~ly on one debuff). So players (Rightly!!) complained that Blizz needed to make buffs/debuffs more widely available (done), and do a much better job of balancing abilities/DPS (work in progress, and always will be).

-PvP gear. In vanilla Wow, you had one set of gear and that was it. You could use it to PvP or PvE. The requirements to constantly PvP to get PvP specific gear limits the fun for people looking to do battlegrounds just once in a while. It takes too much effort if you're going to need to grind a whole new set of gear just to do some BGs a few times a week.

I kind of agree: The original idea was that PvP gear would be one of the tools Blizzard could use to balance classes. This has been... less than successful. The only response from Blizz on this is a pretty weak "Well... casual players can stay out of Arenas and Rated Battlegrounds, and work together to achieve a more even footing with the more dedicated PvP.. blah blah blah... Weak...

But that falls far short of the real issue: That PvE and PvP are essentially two completely different games. IMHO, it won't be possible to balance it unless Blizz did a DOTA~type deal where you may choose premade toons with pre~assigned gear, leaving nothing on common with PvE. i.e. - Acknowledge it's really two different games, and codify it.

-Lack of community. This is the biggest issue. Random Heroics, flying mounts, insta teleport dungeons, and phasing has basically eliminated the sense of community in wow. You will almost never meet anyone else in the world unless the zone is a daily grind spot.

I totally see where you're coming from on this. Just that the current system was created so players didn't have to spam Trade/general chat looking for groups. But, of course, now that the servers are matching roles for dungeons - the chances have been you would never run into people from the same server. Therefore you lose social controls on behavior, and LFD becomes "The Place Where You Can Be An Asshat With No Penalty". Whereas before, you had social recourse ("I know your Guildmaster..."), and bad acts could come back around.

It's gotten a little bit better since Blizzard changed the priority system to match players from the same server, if possible. But still...

The other thing they were trying to solve was Tank/Healer imbalance. The theory being that DD's had a larger potential pool of Tanks/Healers, and therefore queue times would improve. Well... Not so much: I still only do dungeons in~guild (2 Tanks - Protwar and DK). And even with the little carrot of an extra reward, I'll only queue randoms if/when I decided I need to cap on Valor and will come up short. That happens on my DK, but now that we're clearing Firelands it no longer happens on my ProtWar.

Many of the other Raiding tanks I know do the same thing - only queuing when they need the VP, and out of guild only when guildies aren't available.

The only time I directly queue for randoms is on one of my DD alts (Warlock, Hunter...). So I don't believe the dungeon system does much to "solve" the tank/Healer issue. Certainly not for players who raid regularly, anyhow.

 

[Grooveriding]

World of Warcraft lost another 300,000 Subscribers last quarter, Patch 4.3 this year
Activision Blizzard latest earning call revealed that World of Warcraft lost another 300,000 subscribers last quarter, following the loss of 600k subscribers announced last quarter.

Good.

This game needs to go down in flames sooner rather than later. I enjoy MMOs, but WoW has had its run, now we need something new and innovative. Whether from Blizzard or someone else.

WoW has become a mess.

 

[Anubis]

For one, I do not miss - not even for an *instant* - having to have 4 flasks, 2 stacks of Strength pots, 2 stacks of Agility pots, 2 stacks of Armor pots... and the absolutely, stupidly, ridiculous amount of time and effort it takes to maintain that on a 3~4 day/week raiding schedule..

farming for loatheb was one of the most annoying things ever


fuck someone pulled

there goes 300g worth of mats

 

[Chimley]

It did suck.. but man.. those were the days. You really did put the work and effort into it.. and it felt good getting boss kills. It just doesn't have the same feeling nowadays.

 

[Anubis]

It did suck.. but man.. those were the days. You really did put the work and effort into it.. and it felt good getting boss kills. It just doesn't have the same feeling nowadays.

I compleatly agree, however it didnt make farming thos jujus(?) in winterspring anymore fun

 

[polarmystery]

Good.

This game needs to go down in flames sooner rather than later. I enjoy MMOs, but WoW has had its run, now we need something new and innovative. Whether from Blizzard or someone else.

WoW has become a mess.

The most fun I had with WoW was during the Burning Crusade expansion. I continued to play on and off until patch 4.1, but during that time it seemed to have continued to progressively get worse. Cataclysm was a step in the right direction, but after seeing how the game has again went back on that downward spiral, I didn't renew.

 

[Anubis]

The most fun I had with WoW was during the Burning Crusade expansion. I continued to play on and off until patch 4.1, but during that time it seemed to have continued to progressively get worse. Cataclysm was a step in the right direction, but after seeing how the game has again went back on that downward spiral, I didn't renew.

cata was a step in the right direction after the crap that was the end of wrath. but IMO it wont right the ship.

I couldent even make it to 4.1. i was pretty much done after ICC

i wish more of the game was like Ulduar

 

[blamb425]

cata was a step in the right direction after the crap that was the end of wrath. but IMO it wont right the ship.

I couldent even make it to 4.1. i was pretty much done after ICC

i wish more of the game was like Ulduar

I hear you on that. I recently cancelled my subscription...somewhere deep inside, I had hoped Firelands would renew my interest in raiding, but it's really the same thing over and over. I was also pretty much uninterested in anything after ICC. Doing a Cata raid for the first time ever was exciting, I have to admit, but novelty only lasts so long.

 

[Grooveriding]

The most fun I had with WoW was during the Burning Crusade expansion. I continued to play on and off until patch 4.1, but during that time it seemed to have continued to progressively get worse. Cataclysm was a step in the right direction, but after seeing how the game has again went back on that downward spiral, I didn't renew.

I think the game was at its pinnacle in TBC. It was a proper evolution and improvement on Classic, but maintained the level of commitment to make the game a challenge.

The most fun I had was still definitely classic. I think that is to do with the novelty and how fresh it all was, progressing through the raid content as it was released was amazing. TBC was definitely the best expansion and it has been downhill ever since.

I renew every expansion, level up a character and do some casual raiding and end up unsubbing in 2-3 months. The game is just no good anymore. The new content is great, but the raiding, particularly community wise, is atrocious now. The changes they made to the game have changed the raiding scene and the game community at large for the worse.

I just wish the game would die already so it would force an about face or something new to come out.