At Inland Base, Scientologists Trained Top Gun

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Scientology has long recruited Hollywood luminaries. But the close friendship of these two men for nearly 20 years and their mutual devotion to Hubbard help explain Cruise's transformation from just another celebrity adherent into the public face of the church.

The bond between the star and his spiritual leader was evident last year when the two traded effusive words and crisp salutes at a Scientology gala in England. Calling Cruise "the most dedicated Scientologist I know," Miscavige presented him with the church's first Freedom Medal of Valor.

"Thank you for your trust, thank you for your confidence in me," Cruise replied, according to Scientology's Impact magazine. "I have never met a more competent, a more intelligent, a more tolerant, a more compassionate being outside of what I have experienced from LRH. And I've met the leaders of leaders. I've met them all."



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dug777

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i can't understand how anyone with a grain of sense could put up with crap like that, let alone pay money for it...
 

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Originally posted by: first post snippet
"Thank you for your trust, thank you for your confidence in me," Cruise replied, according to Scientology's Impact magazine

Translation: Thank you for throwing more money away on us than anyone else, says the Scientology foundation!
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: dug777
i can't understand how anyone with a grain of sense could put up with crap like that, let alone pay money for it...

Same can be said for all religions if you read all their work.
 

skace

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He wasn't presenting the award to Tom Cruise, he was presenting the award to the spirit of a long dead alien that resides in Cruise after being killed in an Earth Volcano and having it's memories wiped. I'm glad I could clarify.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: dug777
i can't understand how anyone with a grain of sense could put up with crap like that, let alone pay money for it...

Same can be said for all religions if you read all their work.

You must've extensively studied every religion's works for you to make that statement.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: dug777
i can't understand how anyone with a grain of sense could put up with crap like that, let alone pay money for it...

Same can be said for all religions if you read all their work.

You must've extensively studied every religion's works for you to make that statement.


As a matter of fact I have. I looked into LOTS or religions while growing up and also took a religion class in college (kinda forced into it).

Trust me; ALL religions have some weird writing and/or beliefs in their structure.

If you were married and your wife was a virgin but became pregnant. Would believe she was having the gods baby? Well if you are Christian your belief structure is based on that. As if that is not true then Jesus is not the lord?s son and his mother, Mary, is nothing more then a cheating whore.
There are a lot more even worse things like that in the bible. Let alone what other religions have for their belief structure.
 

thraashman

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Originally posted by: skace
He wasn't presenting the award to Tom Cruise, he was presenting the award to the spirit of a long dead alien that resides in Cruise after being killed in an Earth Volcano and having it's memories wiped. I'm glad I could clarify.

Thank you for that, that statement gave me a much needed laugh at work today.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: dug777
i can't understand how anyone with a grain of sense could put up with crap like that, let alone pay money for it...

Same can be said for all religions if you read all their work.

You must've extensively studied every religion's works for you to make that statement.


As a matter of fact I have. I looked into LOTS or religions while growing up and also took a religion class in college (kinda forced into it).

Trust me; ALL religions have some weird writing and/or beliefs in their structure.

If you were married and your wife was a virgin but became pregnant. Would believe she was having the gods baby? Well if you are Christian your belief structure is based on that. As if that is not true then Jesus is not the lord?s son and his mother, Mary, is nothing more then a cheating whore.
There are a lot more even worse things like that in the bible. Let alone what other religions have for their belief structure.
A religion class in college does not really cut it.
I attended a seminary for 8 years. That's called extensive study.

They don't necessarily have something "weird" as much as something which requires belief. Scientology on the other hand has weirdness in it.
 

Shadowknight

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Whenever Scientology pops up, I get reminded of Hubology, endorsed by "Juan Cruz" and "Viki Goldburg" in Fallout 2. The only real use out of that organization was a couple of suits of hardened power armor, 2 points o luck from the Zeta scan, and fleecing them for experience. Hey, I'd join Scientology if I got a suit of hardened power armor!
 

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: dug777
i can't understand how anyone with a grain of sense could put up with crap like that, let alone pay money for it...

Same can be said for all religions if you read all their work.

You must've extensively studied every religion's works for you to make that statement.


As a matter of fact I have. I looked into LOTS or religions while growing up and also took a religion class in college (kinda forced into it).

Trust me; ALL religions have some weird writing and/or beliefs in their structure.

If you were married and your wife was a virgin but became pregnant. Would believe she was having the gods baby? Well if you are Christian your belief structure is based on that. As if that is not true then Jesus is not the lord?s son and his mother, Mary, is nothing more then a cheating whore.
There are a lot more even worse things like that in the bible. Let alone what other religions have for their belief structure.

Ahhh - obviously, while reading all of every religion's works, you ignored learning about English. It's called a metaphor.

Anyway - what does this have to do with Scientology and/or Tom Cruise?
 

meltdown75

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Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: dug777
i can't understand how anyone with a grain of sense could put up with crap like that, let alone pay money for it...

Same can be said for all religions if you read all their work.

You must've extensively studied every religion's works for you to make that statement.


As a matter of fact I have. I looked into LOTS or religions while growing up and also took a religion class in college (kinda forced into it).

Trust me; ALL religions have some weird writing and/or beliefs in their structure.

If you were married and your wife was a virgin but became pregnant. Would believe she was having the gods baby? Well if you are Christian your belief structure is based on that. As if that is not true then Jesus is not the lord?s son and his mother, Mary, is nothing more then a cheating whore.
There are a lot more even worse things like that in the bible. Let alone what other religions have for their belief structure.

Ahhh - obviously, while reading all of every religion's works, you ignored learning about English. It's called a metaphor.

Anyway - what does this have to do with Scientology and/or Tom Cruise?
absolutely nothing, but he got to call Mary a "cheating whore" so it's all good. :roll:
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: dug777
i can't understand how anyone with a grain of sense could put up with crap like that, let alone pay money for it...

Same can be said for all religions if you read all their work.

You must've extensively studied every religion's works for you to make that statement.


As a matter of fact I have. I looked into LOTS or religions while growing up and also took a religion class in college (kinda forced into it).

Trust me; ALL religions have some weird writing and/or beliefs in their structure.

If you were married and your wife was a virgin but became pregnant. Would believe she was having the gods baby? Well if you are Christian your belief structure is based on that. As if that is not true then Jesus is not the lord?s son and his mother, Mary, is nothing more then a cheating whore.
There are a lot more even worse things like that in the bible. Let alone what other religions have for their belief structure.
A religion class in college does not really cut it.
I attended a seminary for 8 years. That's called extensive study.

They don't necessarily have something "weird" as much as something which requires belief. Scientology on the other hand has weirdness in it.


OK weird to you is a belief to others. Belifs to you are weird to others. You can't see that?
But let me guess. YOUR religion is not weird but everybody elses is? Yea ok.
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: dug777
i can't understand how anyone with a grain of sense could put up with crap like that, let alone pay money for it...

Same can be said for all religions if you read all their work.

You must've extensively studied every religion's works for you to make that statement.


As a matter of fact I have. I looked into LOTS or religions while growing up and also took a religion class in college (kinda forced into it).

Trust me; ALL religions have some weird writing and/or beliefs in their structure.

If you were married and your wife was a virgin but became pregnant. Would believe she was having the gods baby? Well if you are Christian your belief structure is based on that. As if that is not true then Jesus is not the lord?s son and his mother, Mary, is nothing more then a cheating whore.
There are a lot more even worse things like that in the bible. Let alone what other religions have for their belief structure.
A religion class in college does not really cut it.
I attended a seminary for 8 years. That's called extensive study.

They don't necessarily have something "weird" as much as something which requires belief. Scientology on the other hand has weirdness in it.

Who the he11cares how long you've studied it?

Personally, I agree with him.

Aliens aren't weird to me, I believe in Aliens. If you calculate how many millions of galaxys there are, and how many billions of stars in each galaxy that have planets around them. Then calculate how many planets might support life, then how many have probably been around long enough to support evolved life to sentience. Even some of the most pesimistic calculations equate to millions of planets that could have sentient life. I'm a man of science and by numbers alone, find it difficlut NOT to believe in aliens.

Now granted, Scientology takes it WAY too far, and is obviously a cult. But like I said, at least I believe in aliens - which makes it just as credible in my eyes as the Virgin Mary actually being a Virgin. As if all of the plague's, and "magic" things that happen aren't just as weird as Xenu using Earth as a prison planet. They both sound like science fiction when read by a scientist.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
OK weird to you is a belief to others. Belifs to you are weird to others. You can't see that?
No I can't. There is a difference between something I just don't believe and weirdness. I'm sure you can see that. You can tell me a fantastic story which I just find impossible to believe, but that does not necessarily make it weird. Scientology OTOH has weirdness in it that most of us can agree on.
But let me guess. YOUR religion is not weird but everybody elses is? Yea ok.
I never brought my religious beliefs into this discussion. I just wondered how you can simply write off every religion in the world because you think they're "weird".

 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
Who the he11cares how long you've studied it?
You tend to know a subject matter better when you study it intensively for a long period of time.
Personally, I agree with him.

Aliens aren't weird to me, I believe in Aliens. If you calculate how many millions of galaxys there are, and how many billions of stars in each galaxy that have planets around them. Then calculate how many planets might support life, then how many have probably been around long enough to support evolved life to sentience. Even some of the most pesimistic calculations equate to millions of planets that could have sentient life. I'm a man of science and by numbers alone, find it difficlut NOT to believe in aliens.

Now granted, Scientology takes it WAY too far, and is obviously a cult. But like I said, at least I believe in aliens - which makes it just as credible in my eyes as the Virgin Mary actually being a Virgin. As if all of the plague's, and "magic" things that happen aren't just as weird as Xenu using Earth as a prison planet. They both sound like science fiction when read by a scientist.
The weirdness about Scientology is not their belief in alien life. I have problems with Christianity too, but that does not necessarily make it weird to me. There is weirdness and then there is disbelief.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
OK weird to you is a belief to others. Belifs to you are weird to others. You can't see that?
No I can't. There is a difference between something I just don't believe and weirdness. I'm sure you can see that. You can tell me a fantastic story which I just find impossible to believe, but that does not necessarily make it weird. Scientology OTOH has weirdness in it that most of us can agree on.
But let me guess. YOUR religion is not weird but everybody elses is? Yea ok.
I never brought my religious beliefs into this discussion. I just wondered how you can simply write off every religion in the world because you think they're "weird".


Thanks you just proved another point. Whats the difference between a cult and a religion, the number of followers. A lot of mainstream faiths today were once called "cults" or other names. But if you said that today, you would be called a idiot or not knowing.

But I got to go. As a christian I have to go kill anybody that worked yesterday. But since preachers do most of their work on Sundays... does that mean i have to kill all of the "lords" messangers? Damm... thats "weird".