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[AT] Haswell Refresh comes with improved TIM, unlocked Pentium due mid-2014

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Pentium G3258 chip should cost around $75 which is about the same price as a locked 3.2GHz Pentium. As long as MB manufacturers release cheaper Z87 options (around $85 or less) I think quite a lot of people will be interested. If you want insane single-thread & 2-thread performance on the cheap or simply a taste of good-old Intel OCing on the cheap, it doesn't get better than this.
 
Looking at the entire suite of benchmarks on pclab.pl, it looks like it ranges from passable-to-good on everything except Watchdogs and maybe Far Cry 3. Of course, no minimum framerate info is a problem, assuming that's average fps.
 
DrMrLordX said:
Looking at the entire suite of benchmarks on pclab.pl, it looks like it ranges from passable-to-good on everything except Watchdogs and maybe Far Cry 3. Of course, no minimum framerate info is a problem, assuming that's average fps.
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Going to be an amazing value productivity chip thanks to the single threaded nature of many of those applications. Just look at that Catia performance, even supports ECC:

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Yep. Most CAD software is essentially single-threaded. IPC uber alles for that sort of application.

With clocks as high as 4.7 ghz, I expect to see this chip delivering maybe 90-95% of the performance of the 4790k, making it a great bargain for CAD, Starcraft II . . . wherever you're handling only 1-2 threads of any significance.

I would like to see this chip on LN2!
 
USER8000 said:
Toms Hardware tests the G3258:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/pentium-g3258-overclocking-performance,review-32974-4.html

The Core i3 tends to have better frame latencies in most of the games tested,and even the Athlon II X4 750K gives a good fight(!).

It also seems AtenRa is correct about Thief.

Toms Hardware also noted stuttering with the Pentium dual core.
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Looks nice. It all depends on what games you prefer (and what engine they use), and how lucky you get with the overclocking. Note that the Tom's review only managed to get their 750k to 4.3GHz, which is a pretty low overclock for that part- reviews of Trinity and Richland parts normally manage to get them into the 4.6-4.8GHz range. But luck of the draw, YMMV, etc etc
 
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NTMBK said:
Looks nice. It all depends on what games you prefer (and what engine they use), and how lucky you get with the overclocking. Note that the Tom's review only managed to get their 750k to 4.3GHz, which is a pretty low overclock for that part- reviews of Trinity and Richland parts normally manage to get them into the 4.6-4.8GHz range. But luck of the draw, YMMV, etc etc
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The Pentium dual core is not the instant slam dunk though - it does make me wonder whether a FX6300 or Core i3 might be worth the extra TBH!
 
USER8000 said:
The Pentium dual core is not the instant slam dunk though - it does make me wonder whether a FX6300 or Core i3 might be worth the extra TBH!
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Depends what you're looking for. In a game which loves single threaded performance over everything else, like Starcraft 2, this Pentium would be an absolute no-brainer.
 
NTMBK said:
Depends what you're looking for. In a game which loves single threaded performance over everything else, like Starcraft 2, this Pentium would be an absolute no-brainer.
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Agreed,although I have seen some people on forums(not necessarily this one) trying to sell this as the only CPU you need to consider under,say a Core i5,which I think is bad advice. Not everyone will upgrade their CPUs,so something like a Core i3 or FX6300 might be a better balance for other types of games.
 
I wonder if more OEMs will offer new BIOSes allowing H97 overlocking for this unlocked Pentium G3258. If those motherboards are cheaper than Z87/Z97 parts then this new chip could become a great value Intel part. Very nice budget gaming chip.

Some benchs from Tom's:

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Competitive MT performance when OCed and insane ST performance:

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Pretty efficient too:

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Although the Pentium gets kicked around in a few of our benchmarks, it does beat the Athlon in every game we test—sometimes by a lot. As a value-oriented gaming processor, this thing is just awesome.
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What we see here instead suggests the dual-core, non-Hyper-Threaded processor suffers incurs more quantifiable stuttering, even paired to a very fast GeForce GTX Titan, compared to the other contenders able to handle four threads.
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Frametimes need to be looked at too,and its not a slam dunk for the Pentium.

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The Core i3 seems to exhibit better frametimes in a number of the games tested - even the ancient Athlon II X4 750K is better than the Pentium in these cases.

Like I said its not a slam dunk,although still a useful budget contender.
 
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I want to know what happened with the Tomb Raider benchmark. How did the Pentium get 4 fewer minimum FPS when overclocked?
 
DrMrLordX said:
I want to know what happened with the Tomb Raider benchmark. How did the Pentium get 4 fewer minimum FPS when overclocked?
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It appears to be heavily GPU-bound. The Pentium also outperforms the 4690K in that test.

It's all within margin of error, basically.
 
It beat it in average frames, but not minimum frames. But yeah, I sort of see your point. Still, I would have expected the opposite . . . 37 min fps stock, 41 min fps overclocked. It's almost like they mis-labeled the results.
 
Might be a decent budget method of getting into an overclockable LGA1150 platform, but it's either a toy or a means to an end, not a permanent solution.
 
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as far as I know any Haswell/IB/SB CPU can have the memory and IGP overclocked!?
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Celeron/Pentium memory is locked to 1333MHz or 1600MHz and if im not mistaken even the Core i3 memory is locked at 1600MHz (at least with entry level Chipsets H81/B85 etc)
 
AtenRa said:
Celeron/Pentium memory is locked to 1333MHz or 1600MHz and if im not mistaken even the Core i3 memory is locked at 1600MHz (at least with entry level Chipsets H81/B85 etc)
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SB celeron with over 2GHz memory
http://hwbot.org/submission/2286409_quake_superpi___1m_celeron_g530_14sec_609ms
IB Celeron with over 2.3GHz memory
http://hwbot.org/submission/2511291_tapakah_superpi___1m_celeron_g1610_13sec_0ms
haswell celeron with 2.6GHz memory
http://hwbot.org/submission/2504294_true_monkey_superpi___1m_celeron_g1820_12sec_542ms

it's mainly motherboard dependent, IGP and mem is the same for locked and unlocked parts I think, they just change the max "stock" clocks for memory

not sure about the NB/Uncore
 
SPBHM said:
SB celeron with over 2GHz memory
http://hwbot.org/submission/2286409_quake_superpi___1m_celeron_g530_14sec_609ms
IB Celeron with over 2.3GHz memory
http://hwbot.org/submission/2511291_tapakah_superpi___1m_celeron_g1610_13sec_0ms
haswell celeron with 2.6GHz memory
http://hwbot.org/submission/2504294_true_monkey_superpi___1m_celeron_g1820_12sec_542ms

it's mainly motherboard dependent, IGP and mem is the same for locked and unlocked parts I think, they just change the max "stock" clocks for memory

not sure about the NB/Uncore
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Yeap, as i said memory is locked with entry level Chipsets like H81 and B85.
 
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