I've read about other people having that issue on this board, but I have no such problems myself. I do recall an issue or two with RC1/RC2, but in RTM it works fine for me.
I've read about other people having that issue on this board, but I have no such problems myself. I do recall an issue or two with RC1/RC2, but in RTM it works fine for me.
I have the Asrock 939Dual-VSTA version of the board, and yes, I've had problems with the NIC under Vista Home Premium.
I had no problems with a PCI card. I took it out and tried the onboard LAN and could not get it to work, even after troubleshooting in many different ways. I went back to the PCI card and it was immediately good again
I hope its only a driver problem...Nvidia/ULi has not made new drivers for the NIC since Vista beta 2...
OK, I've got my 165 up and running at default speeds for now. I want to properly break it in before clocking it. Running tests now to make sure all is stable at default speeds.
I notice that it runs a little warmer than the 3700 did. Is that normal for an Opteron or for dual cores? I'm using the same cooler, a CoolerMaster Aquagate Mini water cooler. Temps showing around 50C under heavy load at stock voltage and speed.
The max voltage did drop to 1.4 but I'm running it at 1.35 for starters. I'll see how far I can take it with these settings.
I'm running two instances of Prime95 (one per core) to break in the AS5.
I notice that it runs a little warmer than the 3700 did. Is that normal for an Opteron or for dual cores? I'm using the same cooler, a CoolerMaster Aquagate Mini water cooler. Temps showing around 50C under heavy load at stock voltage and speed.
The max voltage did drop to 1.4 but I'm running it at 1.35 for starters. I'll see how far I can take it with these settings.
I'm running two instances of Prime95 (one per core) to break in the AS5.
yeah higher temps are normal for dual cores 50c on load is fine.
My comp just froze while watching a video on youtube, it froze last night while watching a video on WMP, and it froze again while moving the mouse around...the only hardware I can think of that was installed prior to the freezing problems is my Samasung SH-S182M cd/dvd burner and maybe the logitech quickcam pro 5000?
My comp just froze while watching a video on youtube, it froze last night while watching a video on WMP, and it froze again while moving the mouse around...the only hardware I can think of that was installed prior to the freezing problems is my Samasung SH-S182M cd/dvd burner and maybe the logitech quickcam pro 5000?
Intermittent freezes are a nightmare to troubleshoot. If you can come up with a scenario where you can repeat the problem it would be extremely helpful even if you can only get it to freeze most of the time. Then at least you can start troubleshooting the hardware by eliminating it part by part.
I recall when these boards first came out they couldn't run the memory at 1T reliably. The infamous crash while pasting a large screen capture into MS Paint. One of the first things I did after flashing my BIOS to 1.80 and setting the RAM to 1T was to take a high resolution screen capture and paste it into MS Paint to be sure the BIOS bug was gone.
I have been highly successful with my new Opteron. I have clocked it all the way to 280x9 (2.53GHz) without touching the voltage above 1.35V stock. I turned down the cooling fan to force high temps and ran it on Prime95 for 13.5 hours like that at temps up to 60-61C. A little warm for my taste but it will help the thermal paste to break in and it was totally stable. RAM at 166 divider (232MHz) and the HTT at 3x (840MHz). This is great because with the extra voltage I'm sure I can take it all the way to 300x9 (2.7GHz) and I still have a lot of cooling headroom.
With the cooling fan at max and the high temp tests of Prime95 running on both cores simultaneously it is holding steady at about 55C which is hotter than it would likely ever get while gaming. It's idling in the high 30s. In any case I have some cooling overhead to play with also. I want to give it more time to settle in and prove stable at this point but my enthusiasm will probably get the better of me soon and I'm going to have to keep going.
I recall when these boards first came out they couldn't run the memory at 1T reliably. The infamous crash while pasting a large screen capture into MS Paint. One of the first things I did after flashing my BIOS to 1.80 and setting the RAM to 1T was to take a high resolution screen capture and paste it into MS Paint to be sure the BIOS bug was gone.
I have been highly successful with my new Opteron. I have clocked it all the way to 280x9 (2.53GHz) without touching the voltage above 1.35V stock. I turned down the cooling fan to force high temps and ran it on Prime95 for 13.5 hours like that at temps up to 60-61C. A little warm for my taste but it will help the thermal paste to break in and it was totally stable. RAM at 166 divider (232MHz) and the HTT at 3x (840MHz). This is great because with the extra voltage I'm sure I can take it all the way to 300x9 (2.7GHz) and I still have a lot of cooling headroom.
With the cooling fan at max and the high temp tests of Prime95 running on both cores simultaneously it is holding steady at about 55C which is hotter than it would likely ever get while gaming. It's idling in the high 30s. In any case I have some cooling overhead to play with also. I want to give it more time to settle in and prove stable at this point but my enthusiasm will probably get the better of me soon and I'm going to have to keep going.
On another issue....
I just installed Vista and it won't bring my X800Pro online.
I've installed the drivers, twice. Cat 7.2
I get the following error in device manager:
"Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)"
The ULI AGP driver seems to have installed properly and the AGP device is online. I didn't dl and install any drivers from ASRock because their website download section has been offline all day. This was a clean install of Vista on a new drive. This is the only hardware error that shows up in device manager.
This is the same error code that unsupported NForce3 motherboards are getting because they lack AGP support in Vista. I know several of you are running older AGP cards just fine under Vista.
I just installed Vista and it won't bring my X800Pro online.
I've installed the drivers, twice. Cat 7.2
I get the following error in device manager:
"Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)"
The ULI AGP driver seems to have installed properly and the AGP device is online. I didn't dl and install any drivers from ASRock because their website download section has been offline all day. This was a clean install of Vista on a new drive. This is the only hardware error that shows up in device manager.
This is the same error code that unsupported NForce3 motherboards are getting because they lack AGP support in Vista. I know several of you are running older AGP cards just fine under Vista.
i had a problem too but its not similar to yours though, but I installed the Catalyst 7.2 drivers and after installing i said i didnt have any ati devices plugged in or something i similar to that. I uninstalled and re-installed a few times and then it finally worked...
I dl and installed the 939DualVSTA drivers for the AGP and the SATA bus. All is good now. Both SATA buses are working including my RAID, and my AGP graphics card is recognized and working.
Hello Woody,
Been thinking of upgrading my +4000 to a Dual Core, just read quite a bit about the Opterons...was wondering if you've had a chance to see any gaming advantages when compared to your old cpu?
My plan is to upgrade to the best 939 cpu I can before they start disappearing and bump up to a 8800 GTX card.
Thought that would get me another year of life in my rig, or so I hope
Any thoughts or opinions would be very welcome!
Regards,
It depends on your overclocking experience or willingness to do so. I really like this Opteron 165 and it's been great at 9x280MHz. I still haven't upped the voltage past 1.35V.
I have been playing around with Vista a lot lately and haven't done much gaming. You won't see an increase in raw gaming performance by going from a single core to a dual core all else being equal but what dual core does is make your general computing experience will be noticeably smoother. If I'm encoding a movie, burning to DVD, or running some other task I don't have to walk away from the computer until it's done, I can keep working on other things at normal speeds without slowing down the encoding process and things like that. Vista is much smoother on dual cores because it's multi threading ability is improved. Some games, like those based on the Quake engine and pretty much all new games are multi threaded and will run noticeably faster on dual cores.
Your current CPU has 1GB L2 cache so you definitely want to get a CPU that has 1GB cache per core as well as one capable of running at 2.4GHz or faster or you will actually see a reduction in performance. I highly recommend any of the Opterons 165 through 185 since they all support 1GB cache per core and are pretty inexpensive.
In my opinion there is no reason to migrate from socket 939 to AM2 since there is no significant difference in performance. Intel Core 2 Duo is the way to go right now but you have to pretty much start from scratch with new CPU, new mobo, and 2GB or more new DDR2 RAM. If you plan to spend more than $300 on a CPU to avoid overclocking and you don't have at least 2GB DDR400 RAM already I think it's not worth upgrading your 939 and you are better off spending a little extra to make the jump to C2D. If you can spend about $150 - $160 like I did and already have the RAM, the PCIe slot (we all do on this motherboard) and are willing to overclock aggressively it is a very cheap way to make last year's hottest technology stay at least near the cutting edge for another year. If you don't plan to run Vista and are playing only older single threaded games right now I wouldn't bother either.
Games are usually more dependent on a graphics card than on the CPU anyway so if you have a limited upgrade budget and you want to get the most gaming performance for your dollar for new games, upgrade your socket 939 to a cheap dual core and spend the money on the best graphics card. A 2.5GHz socket 939 Opteron paired with an 8800GTS will probably outperform a mid range C2D with an 8600GT.
That being said, the 8800GTX might be a little overkill for socket 939 and you may be CPU limited anyway unless you plan to play at extreme resolutions on some super expensive 30" LCD. You would probably obtain most efficient peak performance for this chipset with a 640MB 8800GTS and save some money over the GTX.
I have been playing around with Vista a lot lately and haven't done much gaming. You won't see an increase in raw gaming performance by going from a single core to a dual core all else being equal but what dual core does is make your general computing experience will be noticeably smoother. If I'm encoding a movie, burning to DVD, or running some other task I don't have to walk away from the computer until it's done, I can keep working on other things at normal speeds without slowing down the encoding process and things like that. Vista is much smoother on dual cores because it's multi threading ability is improved. Some games, like those based on the Quake engine and pretty much all new games are multi threaded and will run noticeably faster on dual cores.
Your current CPU has 1GB L2 cache so you definitely want to get a CPU that has 1GB cache per core as well as one capable of running at 2.4GHz or faster or you will actually see a reduction in performance. I highly recommend any of the Opterons 165 through 185 since they all support 1GB cache per core and are pretty inexpensive.
In my opinion there is no reason to migrate from socket 939 to AM2 since there is no significant difference in performance. Intel Core 2 Duo is the way to go right now but you have to pretty much start from scratch with new CPU, new mobo, and 2GB or more new DDR2 RAM. If you plan to spend more than $300 on a CPU to avoid overclocking and you don't have at least 2GB DDR400 RAM already I think it's not worth upgrading your 939 and you are better off spending a little extra to make the jump to C2D. If you can spend about $150 - $160 like I did and already have the RAM, the PCIe slot (we all do on this motherboard) and are willing to overclock aggressively it is a very cheap way to make last year's hottest technology stay at least near the cutting edge for another year. If you don't plan to run Vista and are playing only older single threaded games right now I wouldn't bother either.
Games are usually more dependent on a graphics card than on the CPU anyway so if you have a limited upgrade budget and you want to get the most gaming performance for your dollar for new games, upgrade your socket 939 to a cheap dual core and spend the money on the best graphics card. A 2.5GHz socket 939 Opteron paired with an 8800GTS will probably outperform a mid range C2D with an 8600GT.
That being said, the 8800GTX might be a little overkill for socket 939 and you may be CPU limited anyway unless you plan to play at extreme resolutions on some super expensive 30" LCD. You would probably obtain most efficient peak performance for this chipset with a 640MB 8800GTS and save some money over the GTX.
Wow Woody, lots of good info and opinions there
I thank you for taking the time to write all that out for me!
I don't plan on jumping on to Vista just yet...but I know I will at some point. I just need to decide if I want to wait a bit for the 8800's to come down in price or
or bite the bullet now.
And for some reason I had thought that the 88xx cards were available in both dx9 & 10 versions. lol Not sure why...but now I understand the way it really is. My bad, I edited my post to remove my mistake heh
Lots to think about for sure
Best Regards,
I thank you for taking the time to write all that out for me!
I don't plan on jumping on to Vista just yet...but I know I will at some point. I just need to decide if I want to wait a bit for the 8800's to come down in price or
or bite the bullet now.
And for some reason I had thought that the 88xx cards were available in both dx9 & 10 versions. lol Not sure why...but now I understand the way it really is. My bad, I edited my post to remove my mistake heh
Lots to think about for sure
Best Regards,
It's quite possible, although probably unlikely, that 8800 cards will drag with DX10 and new AMD cards that have yet to be released will kick their butt but there's no way to know until someone can actually test this stuff.
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I just ordered one of these boards (open-box) from NewEgg. Is there much to know about this board in order to get started? I have an Opty 165 that I plan on using - what kind of FSB speeds does this board support? I need at least 300Mhz (x9) to hit 2.7Ghz with this chip. Also hope to use it with a PCI-E X1950GT card.
As long as you have a BIOS version greater than or equal to 1.80 (and if you're just buying the board now, you almost certainly will), 300MHz HTT is no problem at all. I've personally tested up to 311 myself, I'm pretty sure that others have gotten more.
One thing to consider though is that the default BIOS options for CPU voltage are pretty limited, especially for dual-core CPU's - you'll only be able to select 1.40V max (which is decent for a moderate overclock, but I'd be pretty surprised if you could hit 2.7GHz at 1.40V). I highly suggest doing the "conductive pen" voltmod, which takes <10 minutes and will modify some lower BIOS voltage ranges to produce higher actual outputs. The variation I did adds 0.40V to ranges at and below 1.150V - so I can select 1.150V in BIOS to get 1.55V actual (actually a bit higher as my board seems to overvolt a bit).
Anyways, I don't have time to explain in more detail right now, but I can give you more tips later if you're interested (and if I remember correctly, assuming it still works, there should be a link to the voltmod procedure somewhere in my OP...).
Are you still having problems with intermittent freezes? At the time I didn't give much thought to your posts since I wasn't having similar issues. But, for about the past week and a half, now I am.
I've done quite a bit of troubleshooting - swapping out PSU's (and now back to the one I originally was using), running the Windows memory tester, running Driver Verifier, etc. I came to several conclusions along the way, not all of which can be correct.
Specifically, I thought I was having problems with either a failing hard drive, controller, or the drivers for it. I could reproduce a crash with 100% certainty by doing a ~15GB file copy operation between two drives, and this happened in either Vista or XP (Vista would freeze, XP would BSOD with various messages). This seemed to indicate a hardware problem for sure, but then I did more testing and noticed that the crashing NEVER occurred under Safe Mode (in Vista). In addition, I ran full scans of all my hard drives and they found nothing other than minor fixable file system issues (no doubt due to the system crashing unexpectedly).
So then I thought it was a driver thing. But then I ran Driver Verifier for a while and it threw out several "BUGCODE_USB_DRIVER" BSOD's, which I thought was very strange because I was only using the USB drivers provided with Windows Vista. One of them seemed to indicate that there was a CRC error either on my flash drive (which I use for ReadyBoost) or on one of my hard drives, I couldn't tell which. Now, in retrospect this almost makes sense because ReadyBoost doesn't work in Safe Mode, which could explain that there were no crashes in Safe Mode. But wait, there's no ReadyBoost in XP either and I still got crashes there.
So I thought my USB controller was dying or didn't have enough power or something, so I played "Musical USB ports" with all my devices, to no avail. So last night I realized that I was still using my backup power supply (one that I had determined to be somewhat flaky back when I was using it on an Athlon XP system, or so I thought). I switched back to the original one, and things seem to have improved, but not 100% (and of course, the freezes started in the first place when I was using this PSU, not the backup).
So far, I have gotten only one freeze since swapping this PSU back in, and after that freeze I moved my flash drive over to my LCD's powered USB hub, and so far everything's working (no crashes with lots of I/O, gaming etc.). Of course, this was only about an hour ago so who knows if I'm still headed for another unpredictable crash. I also lowered my HTT multiplier to 3x (I'm running 260HTT so my previous 4x would have put me slightly over 1000MHz, even though I've had no problems with that in the past). In addition I set SATA Driving to "Strong" even though I don't really know what that means, this was a day or two ago when I was under the impression that I was having hard drive/controller issues specifically.
(As part of my troubleshooting process I also rolled back from BIOS 2.30 to 2.10, didn't seem to help as far as I could tell.) The only thing that has changed in my PC in the past month, hardware-wise, is the addition of 768MB (512+256) of PC2700 RAM (I already had 2x512 PC3200). So now I'm running it all at a 133MHz memory divider for an effective speed of 173MHz (ever so slightly overclocking the PC2700, but RAM voltage is bumped to "High" too). Also, I've still received these crashes at stock CPU speed so I've all but eliminated my overclock as the source of these problems.
As you may be able to tell by how scatterbrained this post is, I've spent over a week troubleshooting this and thought I've found the cause several times, but in all honesty I have no f****** idea what's going on.
Please do let me know if you're still having these kind of issues (and what, if anything, is common to all of them). Perhaps we might be able to troubleshoot them more effectively with more information.
Also, the last thing I wanted to ask you - how long have you had your board? I've had mine since November 2005 so it's probably one of the very first hardware revisions. In reading the OCW Forums I got the idea that perhaps that could be a cause (compared to other people running newer mobo hardware revisions), but that's just another one of many theories...
Edit: As I expected, I got another freeze not 30 minutes after posting this (while trying to load a save game in Unreal, even though I already just loaded a few with no issues). Now I'm disabling ReadyBoost to see if that has any effect (and I doubt it will....)
No more crashes yet (but it's only been 1.5 hours since I disabled ReadyBoost).
More interestingly, I've been scouring the internet in an attempt to find any common causes of freezes on these motherboards. I've found a few threads on the Overclockers.com forums discussing freezing issues tied to the use of the rear USB ports - which would make sense given my "BUGCODE_USB_DRIVER" errors. The suggestion is to remove all devices from your rear USB ports, disable "Legacy USB" in the BIOS, and use the headers to go to front case ports - my only problem with that is, my case ports are only USB 1.1 and thus none of my devices (with the possible exception of keyboard/mouse) will really work when connected to them.
I'm about to see if I can test this with a separate rear USB bracket, thought I'd throw it out there for anyone else who may be having issues...
More interestingly, I've been scouring the internet in an attempt to find any common causes of freezes on these motherboards. I've found a few threads on the Overclockers.com forums discussing freezing issues tied to the use of the rear USB ports - which would make sense given my "BUGCODE_USB_DRIVER" errors. The suggestion is to remove all devices from your rear USB ports, disable "Legacy USB" in the BIOS, and use the headers to go to front case ports - my only problem with that is, my case ports are only USB 1.1 and thus none of my devices (with the possible exception of keyboard/mouse) will really work when connected to them.
I'm about to see if I can test this with a separate rear USB bracket, thought I'd throw it out there for anyone else who may be having issues...
Ugh. After probably a solid 2-3 weeks of tearing my hair out in an effort to troubleshoot my stability problems, it turns out it was the RAM after all. Right now I'm running all of it at 144MHz, any higher than that results in the semi-random freezes that I had been seeing. The most frustrating thing was that I had already run Memtest (as well as the Windows Memory Diagnostic) and neither found any problems (even though it would cause crashes in Windows).
In any case, as far as I can tell, there are no problems with the motherboard, USB controller, hard drives, or anything else in my system that I had been suspecting. So, in case anyone happens upon this thread in the future, it was (mostly) my fault rather than the motherboard's. (Although the USB troubleshooting steps may still be useful to some, perhaps.)
I'm still somewhat undecided if I want to keep my current RAM configuration (1792MB, 144MHz Single Channel) or drop back down to my previous one (1024MB, 200MHz Dual Channel). Vista really uses the extra RAM, but it comes with such a hit in speed (due to my using 5 year old PC2700 in slots 3 and 4 :laugh:[/i])...
My uptime is just over 52 hours now, which would have been totally unheard of a week ago. Plus I can recreate the scenarios which used to cause freezes, and now they work fine. So, I'm happy.
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Edit: Update after about 4 days (I'm just editing this in instead of bumping the thread; I doubt anyone is that interested):
I think the extra RAM I added about a month ago (512+256 PC2700) is just causing problems all over the place, and not in a particularly predictable way either. Even after I dropped the RAM speed way down, I ended up getting a few hard system locks yesterday. Since I don't remember one single crash in the three months with this system config prior to adding the extra RAM, I just decided to take it out entirely. 1GB is borderline not enough for Vista (considering how many programs I tend to have open at one time), but for now I'll just live with it until I can either pick up 2x512 more PC3200, or upgrade the platform entirely.
As a result of removing the old PC2700 RAM, I was able to raise the effective RAM speed from 144MHz to 216MHz, go from Single to Dual Channel, and lower Command Rate from 2T to 1T. I had been under the suspicion that the slower timings/speeds needed to accommodate the old RAM were hurting my performance in some cases, and it turns out I was right. As a small example, the castle flyby intro in Unreal (yes, the original one) had its minimum framerate raise from about 64 to 79-80 now, and that's pretty significant. Also worth mentioning is that the UI performance in Vista improved somewhat too - not entirely surprising as this uses 3D rendering and high CPU utilization at times.
So while I do miss having the extra RAM - the overall speedup (in processes that don't end up paging to disk) is pretty nice. I also have a fast 2GB flash drive for ReadyBoost, which helps somewhat too. I'm only running a 9700 Pro in this box right now anyway, so that limits my ability to play any games less than three years old - so 1GB is "mostly" sufficient for multitasking and the older games I do play.
(Note: I also swapped out PSU's last night yet again, 330W->380W, but that was just a precautionary measure as I'd been getting hard locks with the 380W and the extra RAM as well. The 330W had been working just fine for three months presenting no stability issues, but even now that I'm 99.999% sure the old RAM was the root cause, I just wanted to be careful...)
In any case, as far as I can tell, there are no problems with the motherboard, USB controller, hard drives, or anything else in my system that I had been suspecting. So, in case anyone happens upon this thread in the future, it was (mostly) my fault rather than the motherboard's.
(Although the USB troubleshooting steps may still be useful to some, perhaps.)I'm still somewhat undecided if I want to keep my current RAM configuration (1792MB, 144MHz Single Channel) or drop back down to my previous one (1024MB, 200MHz Dual Channel). Vista really uses the extra RAM, but it comes with such a hit in speed (due to my using 5 year old PC2700 in slots 3 and 4 :laugh:[/i])...
My uptime is just over 52 hours now, which would have been totally unheard of a week ago. Plus I can recreate the scenarios which used to cause freezes, and now they work fine. So, I'm happy.
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Edit: Update after about 4 days (I'm just editing this in instead of bumping the thread; I doubt anyone is that interested
): I think the extra RAM I added about a month ago (512+256 PC2700) is just causing problems all over the place, and not in a particularly predictable way either. Even after I dropped the RAM speed way down, I ended up getting a few hard system locks yesterday. Since I don't remember one single crash in the three months with this system config prior to adding the extra RAM, I just decided to take it out entirely. 1GB is borderline not enough for Vista (considering how many programs I tend to have open at one time), but for now I'll just live with it until I can either pick up 2x512 more PC3200, or upgrade the platform entirely.
As a result of removing the old PC2700 RAM, I was able to raise the effective RAM speed from 144MHz to 216MHz, go from Single to Dual Channel, and lower Command Rate from 2T to 1T. I had been under the suspicion that the slower timings/speeds needed to accommodate the old RAM were hurting my performance in some cases, and it turns out I was right. As a small example, the castle flyby intro in Unreal (yes, the original one) had its minimum framerate raise from about 64 to 79-80 now, and that's pretty significant. Also worth mentioning is that the UI performance in Vista improved somewhat too - not entirely surprising as this uses 3D rendering and high CPU utilization at times.
So while I do miss having the extra RAM - the overall speedup (in processes that don't end up paging to disk) is pretty nice. I also have a fast 2GB flash drive for ReadyBoost, which helps somewhat too. I'm only running a 9700 Pro in this box right now anyway, so that limits my ability to play any games less than three years old - so 1GB is "mostly" sufficient for multitasking and the older games I do play.
(Note: I also swapped out PSU's last night yet again, 330W->380W, but that was just a precautionary measure as I'd been getting hard locks with the 380W and the extra RAM as well. The 330W had been working just fine for three months presenting no stability issues, but even now that I'm 99.999% sure the old RAM was the root cause, I just wanted to be careful...)
VirtualLarry
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I guess not all of the boards can do that. I tested a DualSata2 and a DualVista board, and was only able to reach ~280FSB on one, and ~290FSB on the other. Neither one would handle 300Mhz. So I'm sadly going to be using a Biostar mobo for my Opty 165, which I know will hit 300FSB. I'll keep the Dual- boards around for backups.
hi GUYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry I havent posted in several months !! But I still am a proud owner of ASROCK 939 DUAL SATA2 MOBO
I still use WIN XP pro (32-bit version, unfortunately), 2 GB RAM (dual-channel). The only changes was my video card (I've replaced my ATI-9800 vga with Nvidia MSI 7900GT pci-e) around October of last year.
I've been enjoying my system with that new video card with the following games set to max AA/AF:
- Counterstrike Source / Half Life + all the mods
- Battlefield 2 + all the mods
- Flatout 2
- Trackmania Sunrise (demo)
- F.E.A.R. combat
- Joint Operations
- etc etc.
I have also tried using this hardware to boot into several linux live-cd. Among of my favorite (64-bit linux) are:
- sidux-64 bit 2007
- bluewhite v.11 64-bit
Has anyone has had tried WIN XP Pro 64-bit ?? any difference ? In Linux, the 64-bit shows significant performance when using audio/video editor
I still use WIN XP pro (32-bit version, unfortunately), 2 GB RAM (dual-channel). The only changes was my video card (I've replaced my ATI-9800 vga with Nvidia MSI 7900GT pci-e) around October of last year.
I've been enjoying my system with that new video card with the following games set to max AA/AF:
- Counterstrike Source / Half Life + all the mods
- Battlefield 2 + all the mods
- Flatout 2
- Trackmania Sunrise (demo)
- F.E.A.R. combat
- Joint Operations
- etc etc.
I have also tried using this hardware to boot into several linux live-cd. Among of my favorite (64-bit linux) are:
- sidux-64 bit 2007
- bluewhite v.11 64-bit
Has anyone has had tried WIN XP Pro 64-bit ?? any difference ? In Linux, the 64-bit shows significant performance when using audio/video editor
Originally posted by: logicmaster2003
hi GUYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry I havent posted in several months !! But I still am a proud owner of ASROCK 939 DUAL SATA2 MOBO
I still use WIN XP pro (32-bit version, unfortunately), 2 GB RAM (dual-channel). The only changes was my video card (I've replaced my ATI-9800 vga with Nvidia MSI 7900GT pci-e) around October of last year.
I've been enjoying my system with that new video card with the following games set to max AA/AF:
- Counterstrike Source / Half Life + all the mods
- Battlefield 2 + all the mods
- Flatout 2
- Trackmania Sunrise (demo)
- F.E.A.R. combat
- Joint Operations
- etc etc.
I have also tried using this hardware to boot into several linux live-cd. Among of my favorite (64-bit linux) are:
- sidux-64 bit 2007
- bluewhite v.11 64-bit
Has anyone has had tried WIN XP Pro 64-bit ?? any difference ? In Linux, the 64-bit shows significant performance when using audio/video editor
I remember you from a while back. There's still a few of us in here - hard to believe the thread is nearly two years old now.
I plan on using this board for a while yet - I've been very impressed with it through all my component changes (Opty 170->A64 3200+, 6800GT->X1900XT->9700 Pro, RAM upgrades/downgrades, etc.). I ran XP 64-bit as my primary OS for a while last summer/fall, and other than driver support that could be spotty at times (my HDTV tuner at the time never had drivers and probably never will), I had no problems. At the same time though, I didn't actually have any software that was compiled/optimized for x64 systems, except perhaps for a few games that were patched. I never really did any scientific performance comparisons, but I don't think I really got any performance boosts (nor any performance penalties for that matter) compared to XP 32-bit.
If you have software that can make use of a 64-bit environment and you can get XP x64 cheaply, then I'd say go for it.
hi SynthDude2001 yea i remember you too
oh ur hdtv tuner.. maybe u can download the driver from http://www.omegadrivers.net/ ?? I thought thats much better.
I myself have problem with my MSI 7900GT/GTO driver.. whenever I wanna watch video files, it will default to black screen. I would then have to set the nvidia video temperature settings from none -> 9300k -> back to non. I think its something with the overlay.
Yea I think i'm happy with 32-bit winXP Pro cuz i only use it for playing games
For everything else (music, video, audio-editing, video-editing, graphic-editing, web-surfing, instant messangers, etc).. I use Elive ( where Debian meets Enlightenment)
Have u played with various linux ? which ones are your favorites ?
yea i remember you too oh ur hdtv tuner.. maybe u can download the driver from http://www.omegadrivers.net/ ?? I thought thats much better.
I myself have problem with my MSI 7900GT/GTO driver.. whenever I wanna watch video files, it will default to black screen. I would then have to set the nvidia video temperature settings from none -> 9300k -> back to non. I think its something with the overlay.
Yea I think i'm happy with 32-bit winXP Pro
cuz i only use it for playing games For everything else (music, video, audio-editing, video-editing, graphic-editing, web-surfing, instant messangers, etc).. I use Elive ( where Debian meets Enlightenment)
Have u played with various linux ? which ones are your favorites ?
Well, I've since sold my HDTV tuner for an unrelated reason (that being, I can no longer receive broadcasts in this area). One of these years I'll get around to replacing it.
I haven't used an Nvidia card in almost a year, so I wouldn't really be able to help you out with that problem, sorry.
If you do only use XP for games, then yeah it's probably a good idea to stick with 32-bit - I only know of one or two games that have been patched with 64-bit support, and even then I don't think they get any performance boosts to speak of.
I've actually had very little experience with Linux, if you can believe it. In the past I've (briefly) played with a few different Live CD's (Knoppix, Ubuntu, Kororaa), but I've never used any for an extended period of time. I should probably spend more time attempting to become familiar with one of them...
I haven't used an Nvidia card in almost a year, so I wouldn't really be able to help you out with that problem, sorry.
If you do only use XP for games, then yeah it's probably a good idea to stick with 32-bit - I only know of one or two games that have been patched with 64-bit support, and even then I don't think they get any performance boosts to speak of.
I've actually had very little experience with Linux, if you can believe it. In the past I've (briefly) played with a few different Live CD's (Knoppix, Ubuntu, Kororaa), but I've never used any for an extended period of time. I should probably spend more time attempting to become familiar with one of them...
hey synthdude
yes I myself have started using Linux around January 2006, so its been 1 year and 3 months for me
I started with DSL (damn small linux) where everybody at the forum are super mean to newbies.
Then i went to BEATRIX --> KNOPPIX --> MYAH --> BLAG --> CENTOS --> KANOTIX and finally.. ELIVE
This is Elive.. http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h13/stickypookie/screenshot3.png?t=1176649510
The raindrops are actually animated I use it for everything else other than playing games
yes I myself have started using Linux around January 2006, so its been 1 year and 3 months for me
I started with DSL (damn small linux) where everybody at the forum are super mean to newbies.
Then i went to BEATRIX --> KNOPPIX --> MYAH --> BLAG --> CENTOS --> KANOTIX and finally.. ELIVE
This is Elive.. http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h13/stickypookie/screenshot3.png?t=1176649510
The raindrops are actually animated
I use it for everything else other than playing games New Guy here,
Has anybody done overclocking with the AM2 CPU Board. I was wondering what I can expect, i just picked one up so I can do a cheap upgrade, I noticed that AM2 CPU's are much cheaper now than the comparable 939. I will have to get a New CPU and DDR2 Ram.
Any coments or experience will be great. Thanks,
Has anybody done overclocking with the AM2 CPU Board. I was wondering what I can expect, i just picked one up so I can do a cheap upgrade, I noticed that AM2 CPU's are much cheaper now than the comparable 939. I will have to get a New CPU and DDR2 Ram.
Any coments or experience will be great. Thanks,
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