Mine's done the same thing since day one, and I also noticed the behavior on the computer of my friend who has the same board. Since I've been running it for almost a year now, I assume/hope that it's not damaging anything.
Mine's done the same thing since day one, and I also noticed the behavior on the computer of my friend who has the same board. Since I've been running it for almost a year now, I assume/hope that it's not damaging anything.
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Mine's done the same thing since day one, and I also noticed the behavior on the computer of my friend who has the same board. Since I've been running it for almost a year now, I assume/hope that it's not damaging anything.
OK, thanks for confirming.
This is the only concern I have with this board. Everything else is excellent considering how cheap it is.
By the way, a new BIOS 2.3 has been released.
I noticed the new BIOS earlier when I was going to look for SATA drivers (note: the default drivers for the SATA1 controller that Windows Vista installs, don't work all that well ). The only difference listed is some fix for the AGP Geforce 5950...needless to say, I'm not really going to bother with testing out the new version. I've been on BIOS 2.10 for several months now, 2.7GHz too.
). The only difference listed is some fix for the AGP Geforce 5950...needless to say, I'm not really going to bother with testing out the new version. I've been on BIOS 2.10 for several months now, 2.7GHz too. 
I've seen at least one guy posting here that he got the AM2 board running fine, I can't remember who though.
I've had this mobo on my system for a year now. It's been absolutely trouble free, no quirks or any problems. I'm moving on to a Core 2 Duo system now, but I highly recommend this motherboard.
That would be me
Here's my post about it:
Ok, I got my AM2CPU expansion card yesterday. As soon as I got home from work I started on the installation, as my wife rolled her eyes at my geekdom.
The expansion card fit without a problem in the case. I really don't see how it would be a problem in any normal (read: not twisted or damaged) case as far as fitting. It fits just like any other expansion card would.
Basically, just take out your old CPU, heatsink, memory and the 4 pin power connector from the mainboard. Next, switch the jumpers (J10, J11 and J12, and the 4 rows of jumpers near them) according to the manual. Then, install the CPU, heatsink and RAM on the AM2CPU card (I'd recommend doing this before you install it so you don't crack it while trying to get the heatsink on) and plug the 4 pin connector into the card.
The biggest problem I had was getting the screwhole lined up to the metal bracket, while trying to hold the screwdriver still. You have to kind of pull the card towards the back of the case to get it to line up, even when it's correctly pushed into the Future CPU slot. I was able to do this by myself by laying the case on it's back (meaning lay it down on the end where you'd plug your peripherals) and gently pushing on the bracket.
Once I got everything in place, I booted it up. The BIOS is still the same, except for some things that have to do with DDRII memory (memory speed, and a DDRII compatibility option). I wasn't able to overclock my Orleans 3500 above 240 (Multiplier of 11), but it could be due to the voltage cap at 1.45 or my memory (OCZ DDRII 533), or some tweaks I need to do in the BIOS. Overall, I think it's much cheaper and easier to upgrade to AM2 in this method rather than swapping out a whole motherboard. If it was possible to upgrade to AMD's next CPU form factor with this board I'd do it in a heartbeat. Hell, I'd even buy another ASRock board with a new form factor, as long as it had a CPU upgrade slot!
Any questions, post 'em here!
*To add to this, I'm pretty sure it was my crappy memory keeping me from getting a good OC, as I ended up RMA'ing the 2 512 sticks and got some Patriot DDR2 memory.
Edit: Also, don't ever try to use a Powercolor X800 GTO PCI-E vid card in this board; It will not work, and ASRock apparently doesn't feel the need to put it in their compatibility list, despite the evidence and multiple emails I've sent them. There's also reviews on NewEgg on this card from 3 different ASRock 939 users with the same problem; The card will freeze as soon as you install drivers.
I just updated the first post with news about the new BIOS 2.30, not like anyone reads it anymore though (still, I am impressed that my thread's survived for well over a year, and with 80+ pages and 1600+ posts...)
And thanks for (re)posting your experiences with the AM2 board, Double Echo
(still, I am impressed that my thread's survived for well over a year, and with 80+ pages and 1600+ posts...)And thanks for (re)posting your experiences with the AM2 board, Double Echo
some peeps DO read it!
a great thread and great help from posters here ^^
10 months using this mobo, ( that warm reboot prob is always here, but got used to it, I don't reboot much anyway - lol )
Other than that, everything is fine ^^
a great thread and great help from posters here ^^
10 months using this mobo, ( that warm reboot prob is always here, but got used to it, I don't reboot much anyway - lol )
Other than that, everything is fine ^^
Originally posted by: EKTELESTES
some peeps DO read it!
a great thread and great help from posters here ^^
10 months using this mobo, ( that warm reboot prob is always here, but got used to it, I don't reboot much anyway - lol )
Other than that, everything is fine ^^
Have you tried some of the newer BIOS's? Those seem to have fixed most of the boot issues.
Just wondering if I'm the only one having problems getting Vista RC2 to install with a Sata drive?
No matter what I do or try, it just will not install with my Sata drive active. I get to the screen where it asks for the driver, then enter the driver location, it loads the driver and it says it can't find the device.
No matter what I do or try, it just will not install with my Sata drive active. I get to the screen where it asks for the driver, then enter the driver location, it loads the driver and it says it can't find the device.
SATA1 controller or SATA II controller? I installed RC2 x64 to my primary drive on the SATA II without issues, and I didn't have to install any drivers myself (this was in SATA mode too, not the IDE compatibility mode). However, I noticed that I was getting system freezes when I connected my DVD burner to my SATA1 ports (using an adapter), so I had to install the driver from ASRock's site for that controller.
Maybe try connecting the hard drive to the SATA II port and set it to IDE compatibility mode until you can get Vista installed and install a different driver?
Its a Sata1 drive.
When I disable the sata support in the bios, then I can get past that error screen.
At first I thought it was wanting a driver for my dvd drive, but figured it must be looking for the sata driver after seeing it work when I disabled the sata support in the bios.
WindowsXP has no problems detecting my Sata drive. (I have two IDE drives and one Sata1 drive).
Originally posted by: Seer
Originally posted by: EKTELESTES
some peeps DO read it!
a great thread and great help from posters here ^^
10 months using this mobo, ( that warm reboot prob is always here, but got used to it, I don't reboot much anyway - lol )
Other than that, everything is fine ^^
Have you tried some of the newer BIOS's? Those seem to have fixed most of the boot issues.
I started with 1.30 and went till 1.80 where I am now. I didn't try any of the newer ones since they were supposed to have Am2 fixes only. Do u have any more info on that??
Originally posted by: EKTELESTES
Originally posted by: Seer
Originally posted by: EKTELESTES
some peeps DO read it!
a great thread and great help from posters here ^^
10 months using this mobo, ( that warm reboot prob is always here, but got used to it, I don't reboot much anyway - lol )
Other than that, everything is fine ^^
Have you tried some of the newer BIOS's? Those seem to have fixed most of the boot issues.
I started with 1.30 and went till 1.80 where I am now. I didn't try any of the newer ones since they were supposed to have Am2 fixes only. Do u have any more info on that??
I haven't really noticed much difference after 1.80 for Socket 939 systems. I think 1.80 was the major improvement (removal of 274 HTT lock etc.). I still have a warm reboot problem from time to time (mainly when the system crashes/hard locks, the reset switch doesn't do anything and I have to power off/on), but it's really minor. Are these the same kind of issues you're talking about?
Edit: I'm on 2.10 myself, though I saw a post in the OCWforums thread on 2.30 that it supposedly decreased his boot times. So I may flash to 2.30 just for the hell of it...
In last 2 weeks I have had huge issues on my wife's system....I disabled onboard sound and installed an Audigy 2 about 1-2 mo ago..no issues then....
I flashed bios from 1.5 to 2.2..now on 2.30...boot is no faster for me
I downed clocked and set everything to auto(no overclocking at all) and still random reboots...changed ram from 2 x 512 DDR400 KVR ram to 1 x 1GB DDR400 crucial valuram...same issues
I have been using the blue ram slots..changed today to black/brown slots
PSU is a 400w antec...less than 1 yr old
CPU: A64 3200 stock speed/vcore(XP90)
ram: 2 x 1GB crucial valuram....running auto...boards sees it as 166, cas 2.5-3-3-8 - 2t
VC: 9700 pro..128 mg...bios..set to agp, 64mg, fast write off
HDD: 200gb Maxtor ide, 80 gb WD ...master/slavechannels
BenQ1620 ..master secondary ide
BIOS..all sata off, serial, parallel ports off, disabled onboard sound
ram..normal vdimm, flex enabled
cool n quiet, speed spectrum off....
any thoughts
I flashed bios from 1.5 to 2.2..now on 2.30...boot is no faster for me
I downed clocked and set everything to auto(no overclocking at all) and still random reboots...changed ram from 2 x 512 DDR400 KVR ram to 1 x 1GB DDR400 crucial valuram...same issues
I have been using the blue ram slots..changed today to black/brown slots
PSU is a 400w antec...less than 1 yr old
CPU: A64 3200 stock speed/vcore(XP90)
ram: 2 x 1GB crucial valuram....running auto...boards sees it as 166, cas 2.5-3-3-8 - 2t
VC: 9700 pro..128 mg...bios..set to agp, 64mg, fast write off
HDD: 200gb Maxtor ide, 80 gb WD ...master/slavechannels
BenQ1620 ..master secondary ide
BIOS..all sata off, serial, parallel ports off, disabled onboard sound
ram..normal vdimm, flex enabled
cool n quiet, speed spectrum off....
any thoughts
@ SynthDude2001
No, my boot times were fixed when I changed my dvd-rw and put it to the other Ide controller ( I think master ). My system doesn't hang, the problem is when I have to reboot ( e.g after an installation of drivers/program ) the Wd Sata II will not be detected during boot.
I had tried setting Sata II, also tried it as IDE ( the bios options ), but the warm reboot prob is always there. I have to switch the pc off and then wait for 1 minute or so ( if I switch it on too fast, it won't detect the HDD !!... ).
I can live with that though...coz I don't often reboot anyway
No, my boot times were fixed when I changed my dvd-rw and put it to the other Ide controller ( I think master ). My system doesn't hang, the problem is when I have to reboot ( e.g after an installation of drivers/program ) the Wd Sata II will not be detected during boot.
I had tried setting Sata II, also tried it as IDE ( the bios options ), but the warm reboot prob is always there. I have to switch the pc off and then wait for 1 minute or so ( if I switch it on too fast, it won't detect the HDD !!... ).
I can live with that though...coz I don't often reboot anyway
Good question..I have not tried this becasue it worked for at 1-2mo without an issue..then all of a sudden on 1.5 bios(oced@2400 and 200 ram) it would reboot with net use and email...had issue initially with this becasue of setting ram to 1t....changed to 2t no issues
then 9-10mo later....issues above started...it is true the only change when this started was the AUidgy2 and driver install...I really hated to blame the Audigy 2
I moved the ram last night to see if this will fix the issue..if not I will pull the audigy2 card and see if that fixes the issue..I will uninstall the drivers as well
Does anyone know is there an issue with Audigy2 and this mobo
then 9-10mo later....issues above started...it is true the only change when this started was the AUidgy2 and driver install...I really hated to blame the Audigy 2
I moved the ram last night to see if this will fix the issue..if not I will pull the audigy2 card and see if that fixes the issue..I will uninstall the drivers as well
Does anyone know is there an issue with Audigy2 and this mobo
How many people have upgraded from a working AGP card to a PCI-express card on this board without a windows reinstall?
I recall some people early on had problems they suggested were due to the AGP drivers being installed and conflicting.
I have a Radeo 9700 Pro now, and it has been stable since April or so when I got this board. I am about ready to upgrade to PCI-Express (I'm considering a 7600GT - good price point, and beats everything else at that price. My only other likely choice would be a 7900GS for $50 more. I like ATI's image quality, but their good cards are overpriced right now. )
I just want to make sure I'm not going to have any huge major issues if I just uninstall my ATI drivers and go for the swap.
For the record, I'm still running Bios 1.50 because the newer BIOS versions I tried woudln't hold my overclock for some reason, they all(Up to 1.80 or so) gave me cold boot and no boot issues when I overclocked.
I recall some people early on had problems they suggested were due to the AGP drivers being installed and conflicting.
I have a Radeo 9700 Pro now, and it has been stable since April or so when I got this board. I am about ready to upgrade to PCI-Express (I'm considering a 7600GT - good price point, and beats everything else at that price. My only other likely choice would be a 7900GS for $50 more. I like ATI's image quality, but their good cards are overpriced right now.
)I just want to make sure I'm not going to have any huge major issues if I just uninstall my ATI drivers and go for the swap.
For the record, I'm still running Bios 1.50 because the newer BIOS versions I tried woudln't hold my overclock for some reason, they all(Up to 1.80 or so) gave me cold boot and no boot issues when I overclocked.
Originally posted by: Araemo
How many people have upgraded from a working AGP card to a PCI-express card on this board without a windows reinstall?
I recall some people early on had problems they suggested were due to the AGP drivers being installed and conflicting.
I have a Radeo 9700 Pro now, and it has been stable since April or so when I got this board. I am about ready to upgrade to PCI-Express (I'm considering a 7600GT - good price point, and beats everything else at that price. My only other likely choice would be a 7900GS for $50 more. I like ATI's image quality, but their good cards are overpriced right now.
I just want to make sure I'm not going to have any huge major issues if I just uninstall my ATI drivers and go for the swap.
For the record, I'm still running Bios 1.50 because the newer BIOS versions I tried woudln't hold my overclock for some reason, they all(Up to 1.80 or so) gave me cold boot and no boot issues when I overclocked.
If I could do it over again, I would have gotten the 7600GT too instead of my Sapphire X850. But anyways, I didn't have to reinstall Windows when going from AGP to PCI-E. The only thing you'll need to do is uninstall the drivers and ULi AGP driver, reboot, switch your primary graphics setting in the BIOS to PCI-E, and then shut down and install the card. You might have seen my earlier post where I had problems with a shoddy Powercolor X800GTO card that isn't compatible with this board, and mentioned that I might have to reinstall Windows to get it to work.
With a normal working card, you shouldn't have to reinstall Windows. Changing a mobo, yes, but unless you have XP Home I doubt you'll have any problems.
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AGP to PCIe worked fine for me. I went from a 6800 to a 7900GS and that was without doing anything at all other that updating to more recent NVidia drivers for full 7900GS support. Nothing .. and I mean nothing at all, other than that. The initial setup needed the drivers loaded in a certain order, but once that step was carefully followed I have had nothing to report. Currently dual booting this board with XP/Vista and other than problems with the onboard LAN on RC1 (5600, but both beta1 and 5536 worked !?!) I have not hit any snags. This is hands down the best board I have purchased due to its upgradability. I will eventually go to AM2 on the PC and probably swap it (used as my spare gamer now) with my main rig which is a 3800+DC. Amazing that a board relegated to backup status can return from semi-retirement to become PC #1 again.
Cool, thanks for the replies you two.
Double echo: Is there any particular reason you removed the AGP GART drivers?
It sounds like WT left his in (No problems to report, yes?). I'd rather do the minimum screwing around - remove ATI's drivers and utilities, drop in the new card, install nVidia's.
I think I did read your post before DE, so I'm glad to hear it works out now.
I really am torn between the 7600GT and the 7900GS. My PSU is only 365 Watt and it does not have any PCI-E power connectors, so I would be worried about overloading the PSU w/ a board that requires a PCI-E adapter. Then again, my current 9700 Pro uses a floppy adapter that would be vacated.. so I dunno.
Double echo: Is there any particular reason you removed the AGP GART drivers?
It sounds like WT left his in (No problems to report, yes?). I'd rather do the minimum screwing around - remove ATI's drivers and utilities, drop in the new card, install nVidia's.
I think I did read your post before DE, so I'm glad to hear it works out now.
I really am torn between the 7600GT and the 7900GS. My PSU is only 365 Watt and it does not have any PCI-E power connectors, so I would be worried about overloading the PSU w/ a board that requires a PCI-E adapter. Then again, my current 9700 Pro uses a floppy adapter that would be vacated.. so I dunno.
BTW, this behavoir is extremely common on many modern systems. The IBM ThinkCentre systems I work with at work do that every time you plug them in. I can't speak to my ASRock board's behavoir, since I never have it unplugged/physically powered off anymore, but it really isn't as odd as it seems.
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