Asian or Oriental?

[Amused]

Originally posted by: tfcmasta97

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: Amused
How about an "Asian Oriental" or an "Oriental Asian?"

Kinda like a "Gay Homosexual."

"white trash" ?

Naw. See, you lose because you couldn't keep the theme.

That would be Caucasian Cracker.

Try harder next time.

yea randay, you were almost there but didnt quite make it.

you shoulda gone with "republican white trash"

note that the split is now done with one word relating with two. but we'll cover this in class next week, since it's a bit complicated.

You failed even worse. Not only could you not follow the theme, you completely missed the mark in guessing my politics.

 

[bennylong]

What do black people prefer to be called? Negro? Colored? Black? African?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: bennylong
What do black people prefer to be called? Negro? Colored? Black? African?

A colored negro? A black african?

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: MasonLuke
i think we went over this before, but i'll sum it up for you.

If you are average to highly intelligent, you would use the word Asian to describe a person. If you are dumb and ignorant, you would use oriental to describe a person, not only because you can, but because you are uneducated.

Asian = person. Example: He is Asian.
Oriental = thing. Example: Oriental rug.


/tread

/wrong

Asian = "of, relating to, or characteristic of the continent of Asia or its people"

Oriental = " one who is a native of east Asia or is of east Asian descent"


"Asia is the world's largest and most populous continent. It covers 8.6% of the Earth's total surface area (or 29.4% of its land area) and it contains more than 60% of the world's current human population."

People from the following countries are Asian -
Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Brunei, Burma, Cambodia, China, Georgia, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kazakstan, North Korea, South Korea, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Malaysia, Maldives, Mongolia, Myanmar, Nepal, Oman, Pakistan, Philippines, Qatar,
Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Syria, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkey, Turkmenistan, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, Yemen

 

[JackRipper]

Originally posted by: compudog
Why even label? How about just human, or Earthling?

uhm... thats a label...

 

[JackRipper]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
because somebody has to....

Oriental refers to some type of property - an oriental rug, the orient express, whatever

You use Asian when you refer to a person from Asia (duh what the fvck)

Some people find being called oriental offensive; I'll correct somebody for saying it, but I don't find it offensive.

You're a fool.

If they find being called Oriental offensive, they need to stop being whiners. The dictionary definition of oriental fits just fine. Don't like it? Good luck getting 4 of the 5 definitions revised to specifically exclude humans.

Asia is a big freaking place. Stop lumping people into one category. It'd be like calling everyone who claims Irish/English/Spanish/German/Whatever Heritage just "European". In fact, while we are at it, we'll just refer to everyone by their ancestor's contienent. So, excluding Antartica, there are only 6 types of people in the world from here forth. To call people in Ukraine no different than people from Iraq or the Phillipines is an insult to the entire freaking contienent, much more than people from one corner of it being called Oriental. If a person is fine being called just "Asian"... good... that's fine, but don't tell people they can't or shouldn't call someone Oriental, because by definition, they are.

uhm, so what ur saying is... Oriental is more specific?

A: Hi I'm German... you must be Oriental...
B: No I'm Chinese u fvcktard...

-JR

 

[JackRipper]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: MasonLuke
i think we went over this before, but i'll sum it up for you.

If you are average to highly intelligent, you would use the word Asian to describe a person. If you are dumb and ignorant, you would use oriental to describe a person, not only because you can, but because you are uneducated.

Asian = person. Example: He is Asian.
Oriental = thing. Example: Oriental rug.


/tread

/wrong

Asian = "of, relating to, or characteristic of the continent of Asia or its people"

Oriental = " one who is a native of east Asia or is of east Asian descent"


"Asia is the world's largest and most populous continent. It covers 8.6% of the Earth's total surface area (or 29.4% of its land area) and it contains more than 60% of the world's current human population."

People from the following countries are Asian -
Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Brunei, Burma, Cambodia, China, Georgia, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kazakstan, North Korea, South Korea, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Malaysia, Maldives, Mongolia, Myanmar, Nepal, Oman, Pakistan, Philippines, Qatar,
Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Syria, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkey, Turkmenistan, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, Yemen

yeah but wtf calls an afghani asian... UAE's, Turks... etc...

 

[Kadarin]

I'm guessing that I'm in the minority here, given that I prefer to be considered as just plain old white.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: JackRipper

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: MasonLuke
i think we went over this before, but i'll sum it up for you.

If you are average to highly intelligent, you would use the word Asian to describe a person. If you are dumb and ignorant, you would use oriental to describe a person, not only because you can, but because you are uneducated.

Asian = person. Example: He is Asian.
Oriental = thing. Example: Oriental rug.


/tread

/wrong

Asian = "of, relating to, or characteristic of the continent of Asia or its people"

Oriental = " one who is a native of east Asia or is of east Asian descent"


"Asia is the world's largest and most populous continent. It covers 8.6% of the Earth's total surface area (or 29.4% of its land area) and it contains more than 60% of the world's current human population."

People from the following countries are Asian -
Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Brunei, Burma, Cambodia, China, Georgia, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kazakstan, North Korea, South Korea, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Malaysia, Maldives, Mongolia, Myanmar, Nepal, Oman, Pakistan, Philippines, Qatar,
Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Syria, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkey, Turkmenistan, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, Yemen

yeah but wtf calls an afghani asian... UAE's, Turks... etc...

WTF calls anyone by their continents name?

 

[JackRipper]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: JackRipper

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: MasonLuke
i think we went over this before, but i'll sum it up for you.

If you are average to highly intelligent, you would use the word Asian to describe a person. If you are dumb and ignorant, you would use oriental to describe a person, not only because you can, but because you are uneducated.

Asian = person. Example: He is Asian.
Oriental = thing. Example: Oriental rug.


/tread

/wrong

Asian = "of, relating to, or characteristic of the continent of Asia or its people"

Oriental = " one who is a native of east Asia or is of east Asian descent"


"Asia is the world's largest and most populous continent. It covers 8.6% of the Earth's total surface area (or 29.4% of its land area) and it contains more than 60% of the world's current human population."

People from the following countries are Asian -
Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Brunei, Burma, Cambodia, China, Georgia, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kazakstan, North Korea, South Korea, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Malaysia, Maldives, Mongolia, Myanmar, Nepal, Oman, Pakistan, Philippines, Qatar,
Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Syria, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkey, Turkmenistan, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, Yemen

yeah but wtf calls an afghani asian... UAE's, Turks... etc...

WTF calls anyone by their continents name?

Europeans
South Americans
Australians

Ever heard of those?

 

[DaShen]

Does Chinglish count.

j/k

Who the heck really cares?

 

[maximus maximus]

neither... I prefer being called Indian.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: JackRipper

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: JackRipper

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: MasonLuke
i think we went over this before, but i'll sum it up for you.

If you are average to highly intelligent, you would use the word Asian to describe a person. If you are dumb and ignorant, you would use oriental to describe a person, not only because you can, but because you are uneducated.

Asian = person. Example: He is Asian.
Oriental = thing. Example: Oriental rug.


/tread

/wrong

Asian = "of, relating to, or characteristic of the continent of Asia or its people"

Oriental = " one who is a native of east Asia or is of east Asian descent"


"Asia is the world's largest and most populous continent. It covers 8.6% of the Earth's total surface area (or 29.4% of its land area) and it contains more than 60% of the world's current human population."

People from the following countries are Asian -
Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Brunei, Burma, Cambodia, China, Georgia, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kazakstan, North Korea, South Korea, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Malaysia, Maldives, Mongolia, Myanmar, Nepal, Oman, Pakistan, Philippines, Qatar,
Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Syria, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkey, Turkmenistan, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, Yemen

yeah but wtf calls an afghani asian... UAE's, Turks... etc...

WTF calls anyone by their continents name?

Europeans
South Americans
Australians

Never heard of those?

Yea, but I don't use them. I call them Brazillians, Hondurans, Peruvians, Irish, Germans etc.

And I call Australians Australians and Tasmanians Tasmanians.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: bennylong

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: DayLaPaul
Oriental is to negro as Asian is to Black. It's just an archaic word stemming from a time of intolerance. Although the word itself is inoffensive, just like negro, it just comes from a backwater, more racist era.

You messed that one up.

You mean "Oriental is to Asian as negro is to black"

NO! He means oriental has a negative connotation just like the word Negro.

Would you call a black man a Negro? Not unless you want to die.

"Excuse me, my Negro, but where is the bus to Funky Town?"

As a black person I wouldn't be offended if someone called me negro. It would just be weird because i'd have to assume that the person had lived in a bubble the last 50 years.

 

[JackRipper]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: JackRipper

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: JackRipper

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: MasonLuke
i think we went over this before, but i'll sum it up for you.

If you are average to highly intelligent, you would use the word Asian to describe a person. If you are dumb and ignorant, you would use oriental to describe a person, not only because you can, but because you are uneducated.

Asian = person. Example: He is Asian.
Oriental = thing. Example: Oriental rug.


/tread

/wrong

Asian = "of, relating to, or characteristic of the continent of Asia or its people"

Oriental = " one who is a native of east Asia or is of east Asian descent"


"Asia is the world's largest and most populous continent. It covers 8.6% of the Earth's total surface area (or 29.4% of its land area) and it contains more than 60% of the world's current human population."

People from the following countries are Asian -
Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Brunei, Burma, Cambodia, China, Georgia, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kazakstan, North Korea, South Korea, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Malaysia, Maldives, Mongolia, Myanmar, Nepal, Oman, Pakistan, Philippines, Qatar,
Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Syria, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkey, Turkmenistan, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, Yemen

yeah but wtf calls an afghani asian... UAE's, Turks... etc...

WTF calls anyone by their continents name?

Europeans
South Americans
Australians

Never heard of those?

Yea, but I don't use them. I call them Brazillians, Hondurans, Peruvians, Irish, Germans etc.

And I call Australians Australians and Tasmanians Tasmanians.

Lolz... just cause u don't use them doesnt mean the term doesnt exist or other people don't use them. For some people its very hard to tell a Columbian apart from Puerto Rican... yet most people out of respect don't mix the two and just automatically assume some1 is Puerto Rican just cause they look Puerto Rican... what happen's if they're mix lolz...

A general term is needed to avoid these types of issues that's why we have terms like Asians, South Americans, Americans, Europeans, etc... The term Oriental is no longer the preferred term to call a group of people. I really doubt u could look at a lineup of chinese/koreans/japanese and instantly tell who is who. Impossible to tell 100%.....

I don't get offended if you call me Oriental... I prefer Asian.. but I mean if ur gonna argue about something and try to point facts out, at lease try to make some sense and not assume that everyone feels the same way you do.

-JR

 

[slurmsmackenzie]

Originally posted by: randay
I like being called "Hey you CHINGCHONGFACE!"

well that's good news, now i don't feel bad about saying it to the general tso's delivery guy.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

As a black person I wouldn't be offended if someone called me negro. It would just be weird because i'd have to assume that the person had lived in a bubble the last 50 years.

My mother will be 77 this year. She still calls black folks "colored."

She means nothing by it. It was just the last PC term when she stopped caring about updating.

Negro - colored - afro american - black - african american - black

Who can blame her?

 

[Airs]

Originally posted by: bobdelt
um, dude, chinamen is not the preferred nomanclature... asian american please

Lewbowski rules.

 

[slurmsmackenzie]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: yowolabi

As a black person I wouldn't be offended if someone called me negro. It would just be weird because i'd have to assume that the person had lived in a bubble the last 50 years.

My mother will be 77 this year. She still calls black folks "colored."

She means nothing by it. It was just the last PC term when she stopped caring about updating.

Negro - colored - afro american - black - african american - black

Who can blame her?

hahaha.... my grandmother said colored alot and i had a black GF that would come over so one day i asked that she be careful what she says if she's there, cuz some of it could come off racist.

she says " i ain't racist, i got plenty of n!igger friends". floored me

EDIT: cuz my wife just reminded me.....

we were over at her g'mas for 12 noon dinner (WTF) and her great aunt gets there and Rocky II was on and she says, "oh is this the movie with the WOP and the n!gger". old people can be so funny.

 

[Chryso]

Ya know, after thinking about it some more I believe that it really comes down to intent rather than just the word you use.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: JackRipper

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: JackRipper

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: JackRipper

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: MasonLuke
i think we went over this before, but i'll sum it up for you.

If you are average to highly intelligent, you would use the word Asian to describe a person. If you are dumb and ignorant, you would use oriental to describe a person, not only because you can, but because you are uneducated.

Asian = person. Example: He is Asian.
Oriental = thing. Example: Oriental rug.


/tread

/wrong

Asian = "of, relating to, or characteristic of the continent of Asia or its people"

Oriental = " one who is a native of east Asia or is of east Asian descent"


"Asia is the world's largest and most populous continent. It covers 8.6% of the Earth's total surface area (or 29.4% of its land area) and it contains more than 60% of the world's current human population."

People from the following countries are Asian -
Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Brunei, Burma, Cambodia, China, Georgia, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kazakstan, North Korea, South Korea, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Malaysia, Maldives, Mongolia, Myanmar, Nepal, Oman, Pakistan, Philippines, Qatar,
Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Syria, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkey, Turkmenistan, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, Yemen

yeah but wtf calls an afghani asian... UAE's, Turks... etc...

WTF calls anyone by their continents name?

Europeans
South Americans
Australians

Never heard of those?

Yea, but I don't use them. I call them Brazillians, Hondurans, Peruvians, Irish, Germans etc.

And I call Australians Australians and Tasmanians Tasmanians.

Lolz... just cause u don't use them doesnt mean the term doesnt exist or other people don't use them. For some people its very hard to tell a Columbian apart from Puerto Rican... yet most people out of respect don't mix the two and just automatically assume some1 is Puerto Rican just cause they look Puerto Rican... what happen's if they're mix lolz...

A general term is needed to avoid these types of issues that's why we have terms like Asians, South Americans, Americans, Europeans, etc... The term Oriental is no longer the preferred term to call a group of people. I really doubt u could look at a lineup of chinese/koreans/japanese and instantly tell who is who. Impossible to tell 100%.....

I don't get offended if you call me Oriental... I prefer Asian.. but I mean if ur gonna argue about something and try to point facts out, at lease try to make some sense and not assume that everyone feels the same way you do.

-JR

If I don't know their nationality - I use their freaking name. Even if I do know their nationality I usually use their name.

My point is that the term "Asian" is imprecise and incorrect. It's equally as valid to call Indians and Russians Asian as it is to call Japanese and Viatnamese Asians.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: yowolabi

As a black person I wouldn't be offended if someone called me negro. It would just be weird because i'd have to assume that the person had lived in a bubble the last 50 years.

My mother will be 77 this year. She still calls black folks "colored."

She means nothing by it. It was just the last PC term when she stopped caring about updating.

Negro - colored - afro american - black - african american - black

Who can blame her?

hahaha.... my grandmother said colored alot and i had a black GF that would come over so one day i asked that she be careful what she says if she's there, cuz some of it could come off racist.

she says " i ain't racist, i got plenty of n!igger friends". floored me

Anybody that can't understand that an older person may be set in their ways has problems. I find it hard to believe that that your grandmother's friends have no problem with the other word though. Was your grandmother just kidding?

 

[MasonLuke]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: MasonLuke
i think we went over this before, but i'll sum it up for you.

If you are average to highly intelligent, you would use the word Asian to describe a person. If you are dumb and ignorant, you would use oriental to describe a person, not only because you can, but because you are uneducated.

Asian = person. Example: He is Asian.
Oriental = thing. Example: Oriental rug.


/tread

It has not always been that way. There is nothing inherent in the word oriental that dictates that it can only be used to describe objects. It is only taboo because thin-skinned people get their panties in a wad over a term that implies that Europe is the center of the world. Do you get upset over the lines of latitude as well? :roll:

FWIW, I'm an American and don't get offended by the term "western." Middle easterners get offended by that term. I don't know why southeast asians make such a big deal out of being called oriental.

im american as well, and if i hear someone calling an asian, oriental, i just think they are uneducated. dont be stubborn and just be thankful you learned something today

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: JackRipper

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: JackRipper

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: MasonLuke
i think we went over this before, but i'll sum it up for you.

If you are average to highly intelligent, you would use the word Asian to describe a person. If you are dumb and ignorant, you would use oriental to describe a person, not only because you can, but because you are uneducated.

Asian = person. Example: He is Asian.
Oriental = thing. Example: Oriental rug.


/tread

/wrong

Asian = "of, relating to, or characteristic of the continent of Asia or its people"

Oriental = " one who is a native of east Asia or is of east Asian descent"


"Asia is the world's largest and most populous continent. It covers 8.6% of the Earth's total surface area (or 29.4% of its land area) and it contains more than 60% of the world's current human population."

People from the following countries are Asian -
Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Brunei, Burma, Cambodia, China, Georgia, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kazakstan, North Korea, South Korea, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Malaysia, Maldives, Mongolia, Myanmar, Nepal, Oman, Pakistan, Philippines, Qatar,
Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Syria, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkey, Turkmenistan, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, Yemen

yeah but wtf calls an afghani asian... UAE's, Turks... etc...

WTF calls anyone by their continents name?

Europeans
South Americans
Australians

Never heard of those?

Yea, but I don't use them. I call them Brazillians, Hondurans, Peruvians, Irish, Germans etc.

And I call Australians Australians and Tasmanians Tasmanians.

Can you tell a German person from an Austrian person just by looking at them? Swedish from Finnish? Italian from Spanish? Indian from Pakistani? Peruvian from Ecuadorian? I can't. That's why if I don't know where in South America someone is from, I'll call them South American. And if a person looks Indian, I'll call them Asian. Because I don't want to look foolish for assuming an Indian person is Pakistani or vice versa (see: Barbershop).

If I know a person is from Brazil, I'll call them Brazillian. Otherwise they're South American (or Latin American since I really can't tell a central American from a South American).

 

[slurmsmackenzie]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: yowolabi

As a black person I wouldn't be offended if someone called me negro. It would just be weird because i'd have to assume that the person had lived in a bubble the last 50 years.

My mother will be 77 this year. She still calls black folks "colored."

She means nothing by it. It was just the last PC term when she stopped caring about updating.

Negro - colored - afro american - black - african american - black

Who can blame her?

hahaha.... my grandmother said colored alot and i had a black GF that would come over so one day i asked that she be careful what she says if she's there, cuz some of it could come off racist.

she says " i ain't racist, i got plenty of n!igger friends". floored me

Anybody that can't understand that an older person may be set in their ways has problems. I find it hard to believe that that your grandmother's friends have no problem with the other word though. Was your grandmother just kidding?

she doesn't have many black friends, but i've never seen any agressive speach (i.e. commenting on the corrolation between violent crimes/drugs/poverty and black people, but occasionally the word n!gger would rear it's ugly head. she's apologetic mostly, but she also needs to put me in check for being the child and correcting her so matter of factly.