Asian Indians

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: Mani

34% of the people who work for microsoft are indian (a lot of south indians)

Hey Ameesh, you wouldn't happen to know Melur Raghuraman would you?

nope sorry, do you know Jane from canada?

 

[FelixDeCat]

Where is Jerboy?

 

[Shantanu]

Indians account for .6% of the general population in the U.S., but account for over 10% of all the doctors in this country.

You might see a lot of Indians practicing medicine out in the suburbs, but most of them got their green cards by working for underserved urban and rural hospitals for a number of years, under the J1 visa waiver program (or at least, that's been the rule for the past 10-15 years).

That's how we immigrated here. Cheers.

 

[Ramsnake]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
34% of the people who work for microsoft are indian (a lot of south indians)

When i grew up if you werent a doctor, lawyer, or engineer you made you family loose face, im just lucky i liked computers. I'm not a good indian son though, i only have my Bacheolers of Science, i need to get a masters and preferablly a Ph.D

All the people in my family were expected to got college and it never even occured to me that i might not.

its a lot about the work ethic they have. and inresponse to red dawn's comments about the Sihks that run convience stores, they might be running them but i gaurantee you that their kids wont.

u sure abt that statistic? 34% , one out of every three...cannot be true...

 

[Ramsnake]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Mani

34% of the people who work for microsoft are indian (a lot of south indians)

Hey Ameesh, you wouldn't happen to know Melur Raghuraman would you?

nope sorry, do you know Jane from canada?

do you know Jane's Husband John from Canada

 

[Red Dawn]

You might see a lot of Indians practicing medicine out in the suburbs, but most of them got their green cards by working for underserved urban and rural hospitals for a number of years

I thought most of them worked for Kaiser Permanente

34% of the people who work for microsoft are indian

No wonder the Software has so many Security Leaks. I bet they worked on the Indian Nuclear Program the was hacked big time 🙂

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: Ramsnake

Originally posted by: Ameesh
34% of the people who work for microsoft are indian (a lot of south indians)

When i grew up if you werent a doctor, lawyer, or engineer you made you family loose face, im just lucky i liked computers. I'm not a good indian son though, i only have my Bacheolers of Science, i need to get a masters and preferablly a Ph.D

All the people in my family were expected to got college and it never even occured to me that i might not.

its a lot about the work ethic they have. and inresponse to red dawn's comments about the Sihks that run convience stores, they might be running them but i gaurantee you that their kids wont.

u sure abt that statistic? 34% , one out of every three...cannot be true...

i just found this link quickly, scroll all the way down to the bottom.

we have some internal statistics but they are on the intranet so no linky.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

You might see a lot of Indians practicing medicine out in the suburbs, but most of them got their green cards by working for underserved urban and rural hospitals for a number of years

I thought most of them worked for Kaiser Permanente

34% of the people who work for microsoft are indian

No wonder the Software has so many Security Leaks. I bet they worked on the Indian Nuclear Program the was hacked big time 🙂

most of my uncles have their own private practices, One of them owned an HMO and sold it for quite a lot of money.

as for the software, i hate to say it but its all the white people who bring down the quality of the code (they should just stick to marketing and HR where there work can be appreciated) 😛 😉

 

[DrVos]

I wonder if that figure of Asian Indians making 90k/year is based on personal gross earnings or household income. According to the US Census, Asians have the highest household incomes out of just about every racial group. This does not necessarily mean that all Asians are rich. Many people who are not asian fail to realize that alot of asians, especially those that have immigrated in the past 15 or so years live in large family groups. 90k a year may seem like a whole lot, but its not that much if there are 5 fulltime wage-earners in the household.

 

[Red Dawn]

i hate to say it but its all the white people who bring down the quality of the code

It's a shame all these Hot Shot Hindu Doctors and Engineers feel the need to abandon their homeland for riches abroad and leave India mired in third world poverty and her population dealing with rampant disease, a high infant mortality rate and starvation. Of course most of them are untouchables and really can't be bothered with by the Upper Castes.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

i hate to say it but its all the white people who bring down the quality of the code

It's a shame all these Hot Shot Hindu Doctors and Engineers feel the need to abandon their homeland for riches abroad and leave India mired in third world poverty and her population dealing with rampant disease, a high infant mortality rate and starvation. Of course most of them are untouchables and really can't be bothered with by the Upper Castes.

you are right, its all about the bling bling. 😀

 

[Red Dawn]

you are right, its all about the bling bling

Well I don't really Blame them. I'd move the hell out of there as soon as I could if I were them to. Their loss is our gain.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

you are right, its all about the bling bling

Well I don't really Blame them. I'd move the hell out of there as soon as I could if I were them to. Their loss is our gain.

i agree im glad my parents came here, im glad i grew up in california and im defintly glad that i dont live in india.

 

[Red Dawn]

i agree im glad my parents came here, im glad i grew up in california and im defintly glad that i dont live in india.

Well like you our relatives (or ancestors) all came from somewhere else than America..well 99.9% of us.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

i hate to say it but its all the white people who bring down the quality of the code

It's a shame all these Hot Shot Hindu Doctors and Engineers feel the need to abandon their homeland for riches abroad and leave India mired in third world poverty and her population dealing with rampant disease, a high infant mortality rate and starvation. Of course most of them are untouchables and really can't be bothered with by the Upper Castes.

A lot of the Indians at my company send a lot of their earnings back to their families in India.

 

[singh]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

i hate to say it but its all the white people who bring down the quality of the code

It's a shame all these Hot Shot Hindu Doctors and Engineers feel the need to abandon their homeland for riches abroad and leave India mired in third world poverty and her population dealing with rampant disease, a high infant mortality rate and starvation. Of course most of them are untouchables and really can't be bothered with by the Upper Castes.

A lot of the Indians at my company send a lot of their earnings back to their families in India.

The family bond is VERY strong in Indians (well, the Punjabi ones anyways 🙂)

 

[Red Dawn]

A lot of the Indians at my company send a lot of their earnings back to their families in India.

I've heard that time and time again. Wouldn't their expertise be more of a benefit to the population as a whole instead of the money sent just to their immediate families?

 

[singh]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

A lot of the Indians at my company send a lot of their earnings back to their families in India.

I've heard that time and time again. Wouldn't their expertise be more of a benefit to the population as a whole instead of the money sent just to their immediate families?

Of course, but as you are probably aware, corruption is rampant in India. As a matter of fact, there is nothing you can do there without needing to bribe someone. Want to get in a good college? Grades mean nothing, must bribe the admission officer. Want a good job? Can't get in without $$$. Education means absolutely nothing there.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

A lot of the Indians at my company send a lot of their earnings back to their families in India.

I've heard that time and time again. Wouldn't their expertise be more of a benefit to the population as a whole instead of the money sent just to their immediate families?

How would they use their expertise, and I'm talking about the computer programmers who work in my office, really be as effective as the $30k or so they probably send home each year?
Besides, capitalism is about you first and everyone else later.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: justint
#1 Thier is no border for them to run over to get to the US so only the best/brightest and most motivated get to come to the US after quite a lot of work. It's kind of like only picking Harvard graduates fromt he US and listing thier income level.

#2 They are obsessed with money and success as well as education and the future of thier children more so than most Americans

#3 They work thier asses off often to the detriment of thier social lives etc. to be successfull

#4 Even non technical Asian Indian graduates tend to do very well due to working hard and not making waves. My dad who iis a PHD in a social science breaks that 90k barrier

#5 I'm not saying this is all good or bad, but it is easily explainable when you look at what motivates them and how they work

#6 Or you could just use the explanation bandied about by some on this board in the past and say that they are smarter than everyone else 🙂

Exactamundo,

Also the graduate students comming over here from thier big 15 univerities are an order of magnitude better trained than our graduates. Those schools are hard and hard as hell to get into. And millions apply for tousands of slots for university.

 

[Zebo]

Not to many indians in this list Ameesh? And combined make more than all the other MS employees..


Jim Allchin*
Group Vice President, Platforms

Brian Arbogast
Corporate Vice President, .NET Core Services Platform

Orlando Ayala*
Group Vice President, Worldwide Sales, Marketing and Services

Robert J. Bach*
Senior Vice President, Games Division/Chief Xbox Officer (CXO)

Steve Ballmer*
Chief Executive Officer

Deborah Black
Corporate Vice President, Windows Management

Scott Boggs
Corporate Vice President, Corporate Controller

Dick Brass
Corporate Vice President, Technology Development Relationships

Lisa Brummel
Corporate Vice President, Home Products & Services Division

Doug Burgum*
President, Great Plains Division
Senior Vice President, Business Solutions


Tom Button
Corporate Vice President, Developer Tools

Brent Callinicos
Corporate Vice President, Treasurer

David Cole*
Senior Vice President, MSN and Personal Services Group

John Connors*
Senior Vice President, Chief Financial Officer

Jean-Philippe Courtois*
Senior Vice President
President, Microsoft EMEA

Juha Christensen
Corporate Vice President, Mobility Group

Kurt DelBene
Corporate Vice President, Authoring and Collaboration Services

Jon DeVaan*
Senior Vice President, TV Division

Rick Devenuti*
Corporate Vice President, Chief Information Officer


Gerri Elliot
Corporate Vice President, Industry Solutions Group

Richard P. Emerson*
Senior Vice President, Corporate Development Strategy

Richard Fade*
Senior Vice President, Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) Division

Paul Flessner*
Senior Vice President, .NET Enterprise Servers

Ed Fries
Corporate Vice President, Games Publishing


Susumu "Sam" Furukawa
Corporate Vice President, Consumer Strategy, Japan

Bill Gates*
Chairman of the Board and Chief Software Architect

Grant George
Corporate Vice President, Office - Testing and Operations

Kathleen Hebert
Corporate Vice President, Business Solutions

Bob Herbold*
Executive Vice President


Blake Irving
Corporate Vice President, SPD, Communications & MSN Platform

Kevin Johnson*
Senior Vice President, Microsoft Americas

Ted Johnson
Corporate Vice President, Business Tools Division

Chris Jones
Corporate Vice President, Windows Client Group

Norman Judah
Corporate Vice President, Business Development, Platforms &Technology Strategy

Richard Kaplan
Corporate Vice President, Content Development and Delivery Group

Jawad Khaki
Corporate Vice President, Windows Networking and Communications Technologies

Pieter Knook*
Corporate Vice President, Network Service Providers and Mobile Devices

Mitchell L. Koch
Corporate Vice President, Worldwide Retail Sales, Home and Retail Division

Ted Kummert
Corporate Vice President, Subscription Software Division


Michel Lacombe
Senior Vice President
Chairman, Microsoft Europe, Middle East and Africa (EMEA)

Bruce Leak
President, WebTV Networks, Inc.

Kai-Fu Lee
Corporate Vice President, Natural Interactive Services Division

Andrew Lees
Corporate Vice President, U.S. Marketing, Sales and Partners

Lewis Levin
Corporate Vice President, Platforms Technology Strategy

Dan'l Lewin
Corporate Vice President, .NET Business Development

Moshe Lichtman
Corporate Vice President, Microsoft TV Division

Daniel T. Ling
Corporate Vice President, Research

Alex Loeb
Corporate Vice President, Tablet PC


Gordon Mangione
Corporate Vice President, SQL Server Team

Mich Mathews*
Corporate Vice President, Marketing

Richard McAniff
Corporate Vice President, Microsoft Office

Bob McDowell
Corporate Vice President, Worldwide Services

Yusuf Mehdi*
Corporate Vice President, MSN & Personal Services Business Group

Bob Muglia*
Senior Vice President, Enterprise Storage Division

Craig Mundie*
Senior Vice President
Chief Technical Officer, Advanced Strategies and Policy

Satya Nadella
Corporate Vice President, bCentral Marketing & Business Development
Mike Nash
Corporate Vice President, Security Business Unit

Yuval Neeman
Corporate Vice President, Developer Division

Bill Neukom*
Executive Vice President, Law & Corporate Affairs

Bill Norman
Corporate Vice President, Worldwide Operations

Umberto Paolucci
Corporate Vice President, EMEA Regions

Sanjay Parthasarathy
Corporate Vice President, Strategy & Business Development Group

Peter Pathe
Corporate Vice President, Structured Document Services for Microsoft Office

Will Poole
Corporate Vice President, Windows New Media Platforms Division


Jeff Raikes*
Group Vice President, Productivity and Business Services

Rick Rashid*
Senior Vice President, Research

Michael Rawding
Corporate Vice President, Asia

Lori Moore Ross
Corporate Vice President, Product Support Services

Eric Rudder*
Senior Vice President, Developer and Platform Evangelism

Steve Schiro
Corporate Vice President, Home & Retail Division

Robert Short
Corporate Vice President, Windows Core Technology

Michael Sinneck
Corporate Vice President, Worldwide Services

Steven Sinofsky*
Senior Vice President, Office

Mary Snapp
Corporate Vice President, Deputy General Counsel


Brad Smith*
Senior Vice President and General Counsel

Rex Smith
Corporate Vice President, MSN Operations

Sivaramakichenane Somasegar
Corporate Vice President, Windows Engineering Services Group

Lindsay Sparks
Corporate Vice President, Worldwide Small and Medium Business

Charles Stevens
Corporate Vice President, Enterprise & Partner Group

Russell Stockdale
Corporate Vice President, Knowledge Worker Solutions Group

David Thompson
Corporate Vice President, Windows Server Product Group

Michael Toutonghi
Corporate Vice President and Distinguished Engineer, eHome Division
Brian Valentine*
Senior Vice President, Windows

David Vaskevitch*
Senior Vice President
Chief Technical Officer, Business Platform

Bill Veghte
Corporate Vice President, Windows .NET Server Group

Bernard Vergnes
Senior Vice President
Chairman Emeritus, Microsoft Europe, Middle East and Africa (EMEA)


Henry P. Vigil*
Corporate Vice President, Consumer Strategy and Partnerships

Ben Waldman
Corporate Vice President, Mobile Devices Division

Rogers Weed
Corporate Vice President, Windows Product Management

Deborah Willingham*
Senior Vice President, Human Resources




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[Mani]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Mani

34% of the people who work for microsoft are indian (a lot of south indians)

Hey Ameesh, you wouldn't happen to know Melur Raghuraman would you?

nope sorry, do you know Jane from canada?

LOL...wasn't as random as it seemed. Going under the assumption you worked at MS, and given your statement I wondered if you might have known him - he's a south indian at MS, I believe he was in some way heading up the win 2k development.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Not to many indians in this list Ameesh? And combined make more than all the other MS employees..

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a majority of those people have been with microsoft a very long time, most likely before Microsoft was hiring a lot of immagrants, Jawad Khaki is my boss, I believe he is from Pakistan or India, i'm not sure exactly but a lot of indian people are developers in the windows division. Jawad's organization has a lot of indian people in it.

 

[Chaotic42]

I've only met one person from India, that was in college. It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that he's rich. Very cool, very nice, very hard working.

I know you can't judge an entire culture on one person, but 100% of the Indian's I've met have kicked butt 🙂

 

[Nefrodite]

Originally posted by: DrVos
I wonder if that figure of Asian Indians making 90k/year is based on personal gross earnings or household income. According to the US Census, Asians have the highest household incomes out of just about every racial group. This does not necessarily mean that all Asians are rich. Many people who are not asian fail to realize that alot of asians, especially those that have immigrated in the past 15 or so years live in large family groups. 90k a year may seem like a whole lot, but its not that much if there are 5 fulltime wage-earners in the household.

heh well last breakdown of asian/median incomes had japanese americans at the top, viet/cambodien/etc at the bottom.