And here's yet another amusing rumor regarding the CPU/GPU for the PS4 - http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/04/04/sources-detail-the-playstation-4s-processing-specs
A A8-3850 with a 7670 is realistic really. You would need to shrink both to .28 to get the power consumption down to a point to make it fit however.
That's not exactly a great endorsement for Trinity and SI if they are using the last gen models for a console which won't be out for another year+.
That could have to do with cost. Though I highly doubt it'll be an off-the-shelf anything. It's almost certain that it'll be a customized APU designed for that specific purpose.
I have no doubt that Trinity is a huge step up in graphics and it seems CPU power has been bumped up as well so favoring Llano, non-customized at that, makes no sense.
I have no doubt that Trinity is a huge step up in graphics and it seems CPU power has been bumped up as well so favoring Llano, non-customized at that, makes no sense.
While I'd agree that it's somewhat odd that they wouldn't go with Trinity instead, I'd be quite surprised if it ended up being a customized design... well, beyond having a custom packaging that is. But them going with Llano is certainly a possibility - it's a known quantity and if it meets their expectations/performance targets then why introduce any amount of risk by going with Trinity? Such is the same argument against a customized design more or less.
Typically early developer machines use the closest possible off the shelf hardware available at the time. I think the Xbox 360 dev machines were using SLI 6800 Ultras, possibly PowerPC cpus too.
I'm not sure Crossfire makes sense though, unless it's cheaper to go for two small dies than 1 larger die with the same performance.
IntelUser2000
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Accuracy on rumors for consoles are such that you can bet that anything they say will end up incorrect. I doubt they would use completely off the shelf parts. Even the original Xbox had modified Pentium III cores with Nvidia chipset. You can't get 128KB L2 cache Pentium III with fully enabled associativity along with an Nforce chipset anywhere else, only on the Xbox.
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if the gpu is from the southern islands family, a good bet would be the 7770: low power, good performance, small enough die, minimal heat.
assuming whatever comes after trinity(bulldozer + vliw4) is bulldozer + GCN, the console specs of the next gen would be effectively be the same as a lot of laptop configs at the time they come out. consoles are about most common denominator, so if you have a bunch of consoles with the BDZ+GCN specs and multiple lines of laptops with almost the same specs the game developers are looking at a much larger pool of consumers with almost the same hardware.
if they allow direct calls to the silicon like john carmack has been talking about with intel's igp, mobile APUs could maybe even take advantage of console optimizations.
assuming whatever comes after trinity(bulldozer + vliw4) is bulldozer + GCN, the console specs of the next gen would be effectively be the same as a lot of laptop configs at the time they come out. consoles are about most common denominator, so if you have a bunch of consoles with the BDZ+GCN specs and multiple lines of laptops with almost the same specs the game developers are looking at a much larger pool of consumers with almost the same hardware.
if they allow direct calls to the silicon like john carmack has been talking about with intel's igp, mobile APUs could maybe even take advantage of console optimizations.
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Crossfire in the manner described makes zero sense. Micro-stutter for one thing.
I think the best bet here would be a straight APU play. The "Trinity" APU would be a huge increase from whatever old POS is in the Xbox 360/PS3. A "Steamroller" based APU + GCN would be pretty great.
Honestly, the BEST use of an APU is in gaming consoles and laptops that should be able to game well...
OEM Windows costs less, and noone needs anti-virus software on his home PC if he knows what he's doing while on the internet.
taltamir
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And student edition costs even less.
But buying OEM without being an OEM is piracy. No different then downloading it off of piratebay.
This is elitist bull.and noone needs anti-virus software on his home PC if he knows what he's doing while on the internet.
Even the most proficient should use protection.
IntelUser2000
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No it isn't. As long as you don't make copies for profit and just use it yourself, there's absolutely no issue. Why would NCIX sell OEM copies to individual customers if its illegal?
taltamir
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There are a ton of small ma and pa shops which build white box machines and sell them. That is what OEM is for.
Making copies isn't the only form of piracy, and profit has absolutely nothing to do with piracy.
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/licensing/sblicensing/pages/licensing_faq.aspx
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