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Looney

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Do they give you two flags when they ship you home in a box? :(

Do you feel twice as good when your loved one dies in a war based entirely on lies? :|

Any recruit that's joining now knows exactly what they're getting into.
 

AnyMal

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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: Harvey
Do they give you two flags when they ship you home in a box? :(

Do you feel twice as good when your loved one dies in a war based entirely on lies? :|

Any recruit that's joining now knows exactly what they're getting into.

psssst.. you're making too much sense.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: Harvey
Do they give you two flags when they ship you home in a box? :(

Do you feel twice as good when your loved one dies in a war based entirely on lies? :|

Any recruit that's joining now knows exactly what they're getting into.

Hence why recruitment is falling quickly - part of the subject of the OP offering more bonus.

 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
What "truth" you speak of?
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to pick on the literacy impared. I guess you haven't read any news for a couple of years.

Try ignoring the words you bitched about in Engineer's post and taking the meaning from the rest of his text. Since you STILL haven't replied to the same points the way I posted them, try showing us you can read, at all. :shocked:
I guess liberating millions of opressed people doesn't count, right?
Damn! Maybe you finally understand, after all. :shocked:

"Liberating millions of oppressed people" wasn't the first, second, third, or even tenth lie Bushwhacko gave as a lame excuse for needlessly squandering the lives of thousands of Americans and at least tens of thousands of other innocents and spending us into deficits your great great grandchildren will be paying off.

[*]Got Bin Laden?

[*]Got Al Qaeda?

[*]Got nukes?

[*]Got nerve gas?

[*]Got long range rockets?

[*]Got yellow cake uranium in Niger?

There were no WMD's in Iraq.

I'll say it again. There were no WMD's in Iraq.

All you've got are terrorists, and they weren't there before we invaded. :|

Stop living in your Fox < gag > News fantasy world, and wake up to what really happened. Your bullsh8 President and his lying administration lied to you, along with the rest of the American public and the world. :|
 

BBond

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"International Criminal Court

Article 5
Crimes within the jurisdiction of the Court

1. The jurisdiction of the Court shall be limited to the most serious crimes of concern to the international community as a whole. The Court has jurisdiction in accordance with this Statute with respect to the following crimes:

(a) The crime of genocide;

(b) Crimes against humanity;

(c) War crimes;

(d) The crime of aggression."

Bush and Blair Committed to War in April, 2002 - Leaked Cabinet Briefing Shows British Knew War was Illegal
 

BBond

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Take your time and read it, AnyMal. I'm going to have a glass of wine and some pasta.
 

AnyMal

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: AnyMal
What "truth" you speak of?
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to pick on the literacy impared. I guess you haven't read any news for a couple of years.

Try ignoring the words you bitched about in Engineer's post and taking the meaning from the rest of his text. Since you STILL haven't replied to the same points the way I posted them, try showing us you can read, at all. :shocked:
I guess liberating millions of opressed people doesn't count, right?
Damn! Maybe you finally understand, after all. :shocked:

"Liberating millions of oppressed people" wasn't the first, second, third, or even tenth lie Bushwhacko gave as a lame excuse for needlessly squandering the lives of thousands of Americans and at least tens of thousands of other innocents and spending us into deficits your great great grandchildren will be paying off.

[*]Got Bin Laden?

[*]Got Al Qaeda?

[*]Got nukes?

[*]Got nerve gas?

[*]Got long range rockets?

[*]Got yellow cake uranium in Niger?

There were no WMD's in Iraq.

I'll say it again. There were no WMD's in Iraq.

All you've got are terrorists, and they weren't there before we invaded. :|

Stop living in your Fox < gag > News fantasy world, and wake up to what really happened. Your bullsh8 President and his lying administration lied to you, along with the rest of the American public and the world. :|


Believe it or not <shock> I don't watch Fox and I can form my own opinions </shock>

I will reiterate, I couldn't care about WMD, though we all know that Saddam has used them in the past against his own people.

What I do care about is that millions of people are now free. As someone who grew up in a totalitarian country and who'se family members have been opressed and persecuted, I can appreciate what this President is doing. Not that you'd understand.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Engineer
The lie that began Iraq.....
Thanks for a great link. Saved that.
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AnyMal

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Originally posted by: BBond
Take your time and read it, AnyMal. I'm going to have a glass of wine and some pasta.

Enjoy your meal BBond. :) I am going to go get my kids ready for bed.
 

Engineer

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Oct 9, 1999
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The ends don't justify the means!

I rob a convenience store...

I give $5,000 to a church which saves it from forclosure...

therefore, the crime is forgiven because it did something good in the end....


Same analogy except in a much larger context....and over 1,700 lives and $200,000,000,000 plus and rising quickly have paid for it.

Watch the numbers rise....

With the approval rating of the war at a 29% rate now, I wonder how far it would fall if there were a special appropriations envelope sent to everyone with a bill to pay for their share of the war (since the war money is kept separate from the general US budget, it should be separately paid for by the people).

:roll:
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Believe it or not <shock> I don't watch Fox and I can form my own opinions </shock>
I don't believe it.
I will reiterate, I couldn't care about WMD, though we all know that Saddam has used them in the past against his own people.

What I do care about is that millions of people are now free. As someone who grew up in a totalitarian country and who'se family members have been opressed and persecuted, I can appreciate what this President is doing. Not that you'd understand.
Then, you're really detached from the planet. Here's a clue -- The ends do NOT justify the means. Not that you'd understand. If that's the best understanding of American democracy and freedom you can come up with, please go back. :|

Hell! As shallow as your understanding of history is, I doubt you actually "grew up" anywhere. If you really want something to piss your pants over, try checking the parallels betwenn the way the Bushwhackos play the media with Hitler's actions before WWII. Now that is something to fear. :shocked:
 

AnyMal

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: Engineer
The ends don't justify the means!

I rob a convenience store...

I give $5,000 to a church which saves it from forclosure...

therefore, the crime is forgiven because it did something good in the end....


Same analogy except in a much larger context....and over 1,700 lives and $200,000,000,000 plus and rising quickly have paid for it.

Watch the numbers rise....

With the approval rating of the war at a 29% rate now, I wonder how far it would fall if there were a special appropriations envelope sent to everyone with a bill to pay for their share of the war (since the war money is kept separate from the general US budget, it should be separately paid for by the people).

:roll:

Your analogy is flawed to say the least. By your logic, we should have never entered WWII, because it cost us 400,000 american lifes and whatver the $$$ amount was.
 

Engineer

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Engineer
The ends don't justify the means!

I rob a convenience store...

I give $5,000 to a church which saves it from forclosure...

therefore, the crime is forgiven because it did something good in the end....


Same analogy except in a much larger context....and over 1,700 lives and $200,000,000,000 plus and rising quickly have paid for it.

Watch the numbers rise....

With the approval rating of the war at a 29% rate now, I wonder how far it would fall if there were a special appropriations envelope sent to everyone with a bill to pay for their share of the war (since the war money is kept separate from the general US budget, it should be separately paid for by the people).

:roll:

Your analogy is flawed to say the least. By your logic, we should have never entered WWII, because it cost us 400,000 american lifes and whatver the $$$ amount was.


And Iraq compares to Germany and Japan (of that time)? Not even in the ballpark. Talk about bad analogies.

 

AnyMal

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Engineer
The ends don't justify the means!

I rob a convenience store...

I give $5,000 to a church which saves it from forclosure...

therefore, the crime is forgiven because it did something good in the end....


Same analogy except in a much larger context....and over 1,700 lives and $200,000,000,000 plus and rising quickly have paid for it.

Watch the numbers rise....

With the approval rating of the war at a 29% rate now, I wonder how far it would fall if there were a special appropriations envelope sent to everyone with a bill to pay for their share of the war (since the war money is kept separate from the general US budget, it should be separately paid for by the people).

:roll:

Your analogy is flawed to say the least. By your logic, we should have never entered WWII, because it cost us 400,000 american lifes and whatver the $$$ amount was.


And Iraq compares to Germany and Japan (of that time)? Not even in the ballpark. Talk about bad analogies.
Bad analogy? I beg to differ.

Invades neighboring countries.
An opressive minority rules majority with an iron fist.
No signs of political, religious, or cultural freedoms. Everything hss to be just so, as ruled by the dictator.
Defy international community.


Sounds familiar?
 

Moonbeam

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It would be alot cheeper just to kill say every third person born by lottery and just skip all the war.
 

Engineer

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Engineer
The ends don't justify the means!

I rob a convenience store...

I give $5,000 to a church which saves it from forclosure...

therefore, the crime is forgiven because it did something good in the end....


Same analogy except in a much larger context....and over 1,700 lives and $200,000,000,000 plus and rising quickly have paid for it.

Watch the numbers rise....

With the approval rating of the war at a 29% rate now, I wonder how far it would fall if there were a special appropriations envelope sent to everyone with a bill to pay for their share of the war (since the war money is kept separate from the general US budget, it should be separately paid for by the people).

:roll:

Your analogy is flawed to say the least. By your logic, we should have never entered WWII, because it cost us 400,000 american lifes and whatver the $$$ amount was.


And Iraq compares to Germany and Japan (of that time)? Not even in the ballpark. Talk about bad analogies.
Bad analogy? I beg to differ.

Invades neighboring countries.
An opressive minority rules majority with an iron fist.
No signs of political, religious, or cultural freedoms. Everything hss to be just so, as ruled by the dictator.
Defy international community.


Sounds familiar?

Pearl Harbor? Sound familiar?

And don't even relate the WTC / 9-11 to Pearl Harbor. Saudi Arabia had more to do with it than Iraq. Why, again, didn't we attack SA?

Osama is still loose, is he not?

Saddam was a shadow of his former self when we attacked in 2003. He was basically no threat to anyone but his own people.

Saddam was a bad man, but he was absolutely no Adolph Hitler.

 

wirelessenabled

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Crimson
Feel twice as good when you repeat that line every other post? Come up with something new..
I'll come up with something new when the Bushwhackos do. Until then, I'll just keep telling the truth.
nobody but you and the radical left believe that one.
Uh-huh! Keep stroking yourself like that as the body count rises. :(

Thanks to Engineer's link from his thread about Bush's fall from grace in current polls.
The public also is showing concerns about the direction of the country as the war in Iraq drags on. Only about one-third of adults, 35 percent, said they thought the country was headed in the right direction. Forty-one percent said they supported Bush's handling of the war in Iraq, also a low-water mark.
Found any good WMD's lately? :roll:

BINGO!!!

If they, people that posted above, don't like your post Harvey, then fvck them!


:thumbsup:
 

AnyMal

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Believe it or not <shock> I don't watch Fox and I can form my own opinions </shock>
I don't believe it.
I will reiterate, I couldn't care about WMD, though we all know that Saddam has used them in the past against his own people.

What I do care about is that millions of people are now free. As someone who grew up in a totalitarian country and who'se family members have been opressed and persecuted, I can appreciate what this President is doing. Not that you'd understand.
Then, you're really detached from the planet. Here's a clue -- The ends do NOT justify the means. Not that you'd understand. If that's the best understanding of American democracy and freedom you can come up with, please go back. :|

Hell! As shallow as your understanding of history is, I doubt you actually "grew up" anywhere. If you really want something to piss your pants over, try checking the parallels betwenn the way the Bushwhackos play the media with Hitler's actions before WWII. Now that is something to fear. :shocked:

Your hatred and bigotry are appaling. Enjoy your misery.
 

AnyMal

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Engineer
The ends don't justify the means!

I rob a convenience store...

I give $5,000 to a church which saves it from forclosure...

therefore, the crime is forgiven because it did something good in the end....


Same analogy except in a much larger context....and over 1,700 lives and $200,000,000,000 plus and rising quickly have paid for it.

Watch the numbers rise....

With the approval rating of the war at a 29% rate now, I wonder how far it would fall if there were a special appropriations envelope sent to everyone with a bill to pay for their share of the war (since the war money is kept separate from the general US budget, it should be separately paid for by the people).

:roll:

Your analogy is flawed to say the least. By your logic, we should have never entered WWII, because it cost us 400,000 american lifes and whatver the $$$ amount was.


And Iraq compares to Germany and Japan (of that time)? Not even in the ballpark. Talk about bad analogies.
Bad analogy? I beg to differ.

Invades neighboring countries.
An opressive minority rules majority with an iron fist.
No signs of political, religious, or cultural freedoms. Everything hss to be just so, as ruled by the dictator.
Defy international community.


Sounds familiar?

Pearl Harbor? Sound familiar?

And don't even relate the WTC / 9-11 to Pearl Harbor. Saudi Arabia had more to do with it than Iraq. Why, again, didn't we attack SA?

Osama is still loose, is he not?

Saddam was a shadow of his former self when we attacked in 2003. He was basically no threat to anyone but his own people.

Saddam was a bad man, but he was absolutely no Adolph Hitler.

You're right, 9/11 doesn't compare to Pearl Harbor. It was far worse.

Saddam was no threat to anyone? Really? A man with the largest military in the Middle East who has known not only threaten his neighbors, support terrorists, and invade other countries is no threat? :roll:

I guess that's what FDR was saying about Hitler before December 1941.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Believe it or not <shock> I don't watch Fox and I can form my own opinions </shock>
I don't believe it.
I will reiterate, I couldn't care about WMD, though we all know that Saddam has used them in the past against his own people.

What I do care about is that millions of people are now free. As someone who grew up in a totalitarian country and who'se family members have been opressed and persecuted, I can appreciate what this President is doing. Not that you'd understand.
Then, you're really detached from the planet. Here's a clue -- The ends do NOT justify the means. Not that you'd understand. If that's the best understanding of American democracy and freedom you can come up with, please go back. :|

Hell! As shallow as your understanding of history is, I doubt you actually "grew up" anywhere. If you really want something to piss your pants over, try checking the parallels betwenn the way the Bushwhackos play the media with Hitler's actions before WWII. Now that is something to fear. :shocked:

Your hatred and bigotry are appaling. Enjoy your misery.

Funny, I can't find any hatred or bigotry in that post.

 

AnyMal

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Believe it or not <shock> I don't watch Fox and I can form my own opinions </shock>
I don't believe it.
I will reiterate, I couldn't care about WMD, though we all know that Saddam has used them in the past against his own people.

What I do care about is that millions of people are now free. As someone who grew up in a totalitarian country and who'se family members have been opressed and persecuted, I can appreciate what this President is doing. Not that you'd understand.
Then, you're really detached from the planet. Here's a clue -- The ends do NOT justify the means. Not that you'd understand. If that's the best understanding of American democracy and freedom you can come up with, please go back. :|

Hell! As shallow as your understanding of history is, I doubt you actually "grew up" anywhere. If you really want something to piss your pants over, try checking the parallels betwenn the way the Bushwhackos play the media with Hitler's actions before WWII. Now that is something to fear. :shocked:

Your hatred and bigotry are appaling. Enjoy your misery.

Funny, I can't find any hatred or bigotry in that post.

Highlighted for you. What would you call it?