'Ark of the Covenant' about to be unveiled

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Babbles

Babbles

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Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Going to be just like "The Shroud" where it sits in glass and nobody refutes it. I highly doubt that it has survived this many years without anyone hearing about it.
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Actually it has been well known by historians that the Ethiopian Church claim to have the Ark. The wife has her PhD in medieval history and was talking to me a few years ago about it and she too was wondering why the Church would never actually show the Ark to others outside of their church.
 
Pepsei

Pepsei

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Holy Ark Announcement Due on Friday

plese, i'm only interested in discussing the historical significance of it.

Here's a blurb on Ethiopian Orthodox Church's claim on it

Ethiopian Orthodox Church
The Chapel of the Tablet at the Church of Our Lady Mary of Zion in Axum allegedly houses the original Ark of the Covenant.

The Ethiopian Orthodox Church claims to possess the Ark of the Covenant or tabot in Axum. The object is now kept under guard in a treasury near the Church of Our Lady Mary of Zion, and used occasionally in ritual processions. But versions of the Axum tabot are kept in every Ethiopian church, each with its own dedication to a particular saint, most popularly Mary, George and Michael.

The Kebra Nagast is Ethiopia?s greatest national document, composed to legitimise the new royal line established in 1270 by claiming its descent from Menelik I, the son of King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, and contains a reference to the Ark of the Covenant being brought to Ethiopia by Menelik. However, recent scholarship suggests that that reference is a later interpolation: many important manuscripts later than the thirteenth century make no reference to it, and it only became a core element of Ethiopian beliefs in the seventeenth century.
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my personal take on it... I believe it existed as it has been mentioned many times. I do not know if it has been 'rebuilt' or not over the thousands of years, the chances of finding the tablets and manna in the ark is probably slim to none.

"this is history", even if it was version 2.0 made during the King Solomon days.
 
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Crono

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Aug 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: Pepsei
Holy Ark Announcement Due on Friday

plese, i'm only interested in discussing the historical significance of it.

Here's a blurb on Ethiopian Orthodox Church's claim on it

Ethiopian Orthodox Church
The Chapel of the Tablet at the Church of Our Lady Mary of Zion in Axum allegedly houses the original Ark of the Covenant.

The Ethiopian Orthodox Church claims to possess the Ark of the Covenant or tabot in Axum. The object is now kept under guard in a treasury near the Church of Our Lady Mary of Zion, and used occasionally in ritual processions. But versions of the Axum tabot are kept in every Ethiopian church, each with its own dedication to a particular saint, most popularly Mary, George and Michael.

The Kebra Nagast is Ethiopia?s greatest national document, composed to legitimise the new royal line established in 1270 by claiming its descent from Menelik I, the son of King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, and contains a reference to the Ark of the Covenant being brought to Ethiopia by Menelik. However, recent scholarship suggests that that reference is a later interpolation: many important manuscripts later than the thirteenth century make no reference to it, and it only became a core element of Ethiopian beliefs in the seventeenth century.
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my personal take on it... I believe it existed as it has been mentioned many times. I do not know if it has been 'rebuilt' or not over the thousands of years, the chances of finding the tablets and manna in the ark is probably slim to none.

"this is history", even if it was version 2.0 made during the King Solomon days.
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IIRC, the ark was never remade, even by Solomon. He created the temple, and the ark was in there in the holy of holies, but I think the ark just disappeared at some point after that, during the succession of kings in the divided kingdom.
 
alkemyst

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Crono
IIRC, the ark was never remade, even by Solomon. He created the temple, and the ark was in there in the holy of holies, but I think the ark just disappeared at some point after that, during the succession of kings in the divided kingdom.
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Interesting tidbit...the place in the Temple of Solomon that housed the ark has a mirror of it in the Great Pyramid. Both being undertaken by a dude named Hiram.
 
alkemyst

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Being that it's a Jewish artifact, why is the pope getting involved?
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Once Jesus switched teams all the jewish artifacts came with him.
 
Ns1

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Being that it's a Jewish artifact, why is the pope getting involved?
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Once Jesus switched teams all the jewish artifacts came with him.
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LOL
 
rbV5

rbV5

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Dec 10, 2000
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Locust storms in Utah and Ethiopia........Godincidences, or just regular natural events?




btw, its almost 7pm Italian time....where's that damn Ark? :|
 
acheron

acheron

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Originally posted by: rbV5
Locust storms in Utah and Ethiopia........Godincidences, or just regular natural events?




btw, its almost 7pm Italian time....where's that damn Ark? :|
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Locusts might just be a regular event. If it's frogs, though....
 
JulesMaximus

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Fine, as long as I'm on a different continent when they open it.
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Same. It's be pretty cool if it was real, but I don't want my face melting.
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The Ark or the Large Hardon Collider will be the undoing of man.
 
scott916

scott916

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
LOL RELIGION
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LOL MORON... ITS ARCHEAOLOGY

some people wouldnt know a fact if it smacked them right in the face.
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I believe he was likely referring to the supposed contents of the ark, not its historical significance as an artifact, regardless of religion.
 
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RESmonkey

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People, you should know by now that I casually troll religion-related threads by posting that. :)
 
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Crono

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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
People, you should know by now that I casually troll religion-related threads by posting that. :)
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Seriously, everybody knows this (really) :p
 
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