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[justoh]

WTF does this even mean?

Was from the Islam isn't a religion of peace thread. Michael Moore did this outside the Trump tower:

So people (rightly) mocking him did things like this (any many others):

And after linking a couple of those jpegs making fun of Moore, Mongrel replies with misguided sarcasm, "yeah those don't look photoshopped at all."

Long story, but you asked. 95% of his posts are like that.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Gentlemen can we please refrain from the personal attacks which violate AT's terms so our thread doesn't get locked down.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

PT Barnum would be proud of ham, and how he's fleecing the gullible

 

[TeeJay1952]

Any new attendance reports?

 

[agent00f]

All you ever do is post fatuous nonsense, or placeholders/reservations for nonsense. In recently memory you fatuously informed agent that islam was a religion. When presented with photoshopped images you fatuously remark that they're photoshopped. And now this. Do you know what ignorance means? How is stating someone's mom is an amusement park an example of ignorance? Truly one of the dumbest people here, which is saying a lot.

That word doesn't mean what you think it does. Ignorant is rather the opposite of stating plain facts.

An example of ignorant would be some kid on xbox calling everyone a i love you irrespective of their sexuality, and/or adding their mothers to the conversation irrespective of application. That's pretty much you in this case.

 

[justoh]

Try thinking before posting, agent. It's not a race. The post counter isn't a score.

 

[IronWing]

The post counter isn't a score.

Well, crap. :'(

 

[agent00f]

Try thinking before posting, agent. It's not a race. The post counter isn't a score.

I'm explaining your or similar situations so the world might better understand reality, as we would hope any scientist to do.

 

[justoh]

I'm explaining your or similar situations so the world might better understand reality, as we would hope any scientist to do.

How is what you wrote explaining anything? I was the one charged with ignorance. Your post didn't make any sense, as usual. Read it again.

That you post nonsense so consistently is why I thought it was intentional/trolling, and maybe it isn't, but if not then slow down, read carefully, think, then post. Please.

 

[agent00f]

How is what you wrote explaining anything? I was the one charged with ignorance. Your post didn't make any sense, as usual. Read it again.

That you post nonsense so consistently is why I thought it was intentional/trolling, and maybe it isn't, but if not then slow down, read carefully, think, then post. Please.

You're described as ignorant because you're massively ignorant, that's how words work.

For example, you called someone ignorant who was simply stating the obvious, which is regrettably necessary at times. This signifies you don't know what the word means, which is ignorant by definition.

 

[Ns1]

I'll just leave this here

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[justoh]

For example, you called someone ignorant who was simply stating the obvious, which is regrettably necessary at times. This signifies you don't know what the word means, which is ignorant by definition.

Link? Who did i call ignorant? Just don't reply to my posts because I honestly cannot handle your stupidity (or trolling) any more.

 

[agent00f]

Link? Who did i call ignorant? Just don't reply to my posts because I honestly cannot handle your stupidity (or trolling) any more.

Right here:

All you ever do is post fatuous nonsense, or placeholders/reservations for nonsense. In recently memory you fatuously informed agent that islam was a religion. When presented with photoshopped images you fatuously remark that they're photoshopped. And now this. Do you know what ignorance means? How is stating someone's mom is an amusement park an example of ignorance? Truly one of the dumbest people here, which is saying a lot.

I do wonder what they call people who might very well not know what ignorance means.

Frankly you literally have no idea what the hell these comments are proposing. "Apologist" implies someone claiming something wrong isn't wrong, or even right. Nobody is proposing what islamist fanatics do isn't wrong, I personally agree it's quite wrong, and that if the world is just such people should be punished. It just so happens that the greatest perpetrators of this kind of wrong aren't islamists at all though, but rather westerners. So I'm literally handing you relevant info to go after murderous assholes, so you should be thanking me for assisting in this quest.

 

[MongGrel]

All you ever do is post fatuous nonsense, or placeholders/reservations for nonsense. In recently memory you fatuously informed agent that islam was a religion. When presented with photoshopped images you fatuously remark that they're photoshopped. And now this. Do you know what ignorance means? How is stating someone's mom is an amusement park an example of ignorance? Truly one of the dumbest people here, which is saying a lot.

Islam is a religion, are you just trying to look ignorant ?

Originally Posted by justoh
When presented with photoshopped images you fatuously remark that they're photoshopped.

WTF does this even mean?

I doubt he knows at this point from his posts.

The only explanation I can think of is English is not his native language and does not understand half of what he is posting.

 

[Thebobo]

Here is the critical reason why the Arc encounter, Creation Museum and all religious learning institutions are dangerous for our future.

I realize this is old but study: Religious children are less able to distinguish fantasy from reality

The actual study done by Boston University, PDF.

Media story

 

[Thebobo]

Duplicate

 

[WelshBloke]

Here is the critical reason why the Arc encounter, Creation Museum and all religious learning institutions are dangerous for our future.

I realize this is old but study Religious children are less able to distinguish fantasy from reality

The actual study done by Boston University, PDF.

Media story

It's always interested me how religious peoples mechanism for believing things works.

For me if you bring me a fantastical tale with little evidence and that breaks a bunch of established rules I'm going to be skeptical.

How does that work if you're religious?

If there was a story about a guy with a hammer that can crack mountains and who has a one eyed dad with an eight legged horse living in the next town over would they believe it until they had searched the town?

How do they make a distinction between tales they believe are true and tales that are just tales if theres similar levels of plausibility?

 

[agent00f]

It's always interested me how religious peoples mechanism for believing things works.

For me if you bring me a fantastical tale with little evidence and that breaks a bunch of established rules I'm going to be skeptical.

How does that work if you're religious?

If there was a story about a guy with a hammer that can crack mountains and who has a one eyed dad with an eight legged horse living in the next town over would they believe it until they had searched the town?

How do they make a distinction between tales they believe are true and tales that are just tales if theres similar levels of plausibility?

Innate intuition of causality & such aren't necessarily accurate, which is likely why even basic understanding of newtonian motion has only been around a relatively short time, and needs to meticulously taught.

For most of human existence people believed in the fantastical.

You're right it's odd to believe in modern science and mythology simultaneously, but cognitive dissonance rather than internal consistency seems to be the default state of our minds, as illustrated above with the common simultaneous belief in the ubiquity of science/rationality while facing the reality of our present social institutions every day.

 

[bshole]

It's always interested me how religious peoples mechanism for believing things works.

For me if you bring me a fantastical tale with little evidence and that breaks a bunch of established rules I'm going to be skeptical.

How does that work if you're religious?

If there was a story about a guy with a hammer that can crack mountains and who has a one eyed dad with an eight legged horse living in the next town over would they believe it until they had searched the town?

How do they make a distinction between tales they believe are true and tales that are just tales if theres similar levels of plausibility?

Evolution has created a human brain whose default position is to believe even in the face of extremely flimsy evidence. Humans who actually sat down and analyzed whether that shadow was really a lion would get eaten. False positives generally don't end in death while missed positives frequently do. So not only is success predicated on believing but also on how fast the believe occurs and how fast actions are taken on that belief.

Since this has been largely eliminated in 1st world nations, I wonder if the genes associated with religious behavior well get deprecated...

 

[WelshBloke]

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It's not so much what people believe in that I find interesting it's how they ascribe validity to the things that they do.

Why is Islam right but Odinism wrong? Why Christianity not Osirisism?

It's easy if you're an atheist, you can throw them all out. With religion it seems a bit arbitrary which one you believe is true and which you think are bullshit.

 

[agent00f]

There's a persuasive theory that human language and its whole cognitive framework developed as a means to convince others to act in our interests. It's reasonable to hypothesize that rationalization of our own interests is a side effect of this mechanism, ie. we convince ourselves first.

Most people are rather convinced of the legitimacy of institutions they're part of.

 

[IronWing]

It's not so much what people believe in that I find interesting it's how they ascribe validity to the things that they do.

Why is Islam right but Odinism wrong? Why Christianity not Osirisism?

It's easy if you're an atheist, you can throw them all out. With religion it seems a bit arbitrary which one you believe is true and which you think are bullshit.

One generally inherits one's religion from one's parents. Said religion contains an "honor thy parental units" clause. The religion backs up the parents and the parents backup the religion. Works amazingly well.

Odin lost out to Frankish psycho-killers.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

It's not even an ark.

Haha! The second review - "Them thar "evidence" 'n "information" jus' makes mah head hurt."

 

[WelshBloke]

One generally inherits one's religion from one's parents. Said religion contains an "honor thy parental units" clause. The religion backs up the parents and the parents backup the religion. Works amazingly well.

I'm interested in how religious people think about that. I presume that they have a bigger burden of proof than "well dad said that its true so..."

 

[jman19]

I'm interested in how religious people think about that. I presume that they have a bigger burden of proof than "well dad said that its true so..."

Early indoctrination. People tend to want to hold on tightly to their beliefs. And the born again type are usually looking for something missing in their lives and use faith to fill the void.