Argo - wasn't the fake movie stuff unnecessary ?

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SphinxnihpS

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Hogwash. Watch a movie like Army of Shadows and you can see how amazing, edge of your seat tension can be created without all of the Hollywood bombast present in something like Argo. It's adding completely unnecessary elements to an already compelling story and making it a worse film by doing so. Create compelling atmosphere and characters we care about, so we are concerned about what is happening to them. It does not need to be a car chase, it can be the turn of a head or the furrow of a brow. THAT is compelling drama (or can be, in the right hands), not a laughable car-plane chase.

KT

I don't mind the fictionalized elements when they add to the feelings of suspense and resolution. For instance, at the end,
when Affleck had that Stinger missile, but it kept jamming, and the Ayatola Khomeini coming at him with a scimitar, and he finally got it unjammed with a beer tab that he had in his pocket, Khomeini, Affleck, Affleck Khomeini, he fires just in time ...but it misses and hit's the minaret of the mosque behind him... omg, omG, OMG Nooooooo!!! and just when Khomeini raises his blade, smiling, big crooked yellow teeth, ghastly breath, an impossibly white turban, and Affleck, never fazed, glances up, BAM!!! The minaret falls, and the statue of Mohammed smashes Khomeini's head in like a grape, SPLAT! Affleck picks up the turban and disappears into the Iranian desert.
BRILLIANT!

That's fucking movie making, kids.
 
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zinfamous

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I don't mind the fictionalized elements when they add to the feelings of suspense and resolution. For instance, at the end,
when Affleck had that Stinger missile, but it kept jamming, and the Ayatola Khomeini coming at him with a scimitar, and he finally got it unjammed with a beer tab that he had in his pocket, Khomeini, Affleck, Affleck Khomeini, he fires just in time ...but it misses and hit's the minaret of the mosque behind him... omg, omG, OMG Nooooooo!!! and just when Khomeini raises his blade, smiling, big crooked yellow teeth, ghastly breath, an impossibly white turban, and Affleck, never fazed, glances up, BAM!!! The minaret falls, and the statue of Mohammed smashes Khomeini's head in like a grape, SPLAT! Affleck picks up the turban and disappears into the Iranian desert.
BRILLIANT!

That's fucking movie making, kids.

I have yet to see Argo, but now I want to.

that sounds fucking epic.
 

KeithTalent

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I don't mind the fictionalized elements when they add to the feelings of suspense and resolution. For instance, at the end,
when Affleck had that Stinger missile, but it kept jamming, and the Ayatola Khomeini coming at him with a scimitar, and he finally got it unjammed with a beer tab that he had in his pocket, Khomeini, Affleck, Affleck Khomeini, he fires just in time ...but it misses and hit's the minaret of the mosque behind him... omg, omG, OMG Nooooooo!!! and just when Khomeini raises his blade, smiling, big crooked yellow teeth, ghastly breath, an impossibly white turban, and Affleck, never fazed, glances up, BAM!!! The minaret falls, and the statue of Mohammed smashes Khomeini's head in like a grape, SPLAT! Affleck picks up the turban and disappears into the Iranian desert.
BRILLIANT!

That's fucking movie making, kids.

Hahaha. :awe:

I have yet to see Argo, but now I want to.

that sounds fucking epic.

You will be disappointed. :D

KT
 
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From what I read on Wikipedia, none of that airport stuff was true, them chasing the plane down the runway, them almost not getting through to the plane with the guards. What it said was that they got through fairly easily.
several issues with me and the plane scene:

- Okay, how do the cars keep up with a 747 at takeoff? Maybe the first 1000 feet maybe because they had a running (driving?) start? The 747 takes a while to get up to decent speed, but once it does, it keeps going. Certainly not the last 5-10 seconds before liftoff. By then the plane is doing 140mph+

- The movie at least showed them lining up behind the airplane engine. Even if you're not at 100% power, and say 85% power which is lower than typical takeoff power, I'm pretty sure those cars would've been blown the hell out of the way.

- Then they cut in front of the airplane. Here's where I'm not too sure. I know engine thrust, but how much air is being sucked in? It's not the same amount of air since there's a compressor in the engine and combined with ignited fuel, you get a much larger push out, but would the suction be an issue where a car gets sucked in? Not sure. A person probably, but not sure if I would cut a plane off and sit in front of a revved up engine.

- Ok forget the fact that this part never even happened in real life, but if they're going to dramatize it, don't make it so bad?
 

TallBill

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Apr 29, 2001
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I'd guess that they used real cars and a real plane for that scene... but what do I know?
 

RagingBITCH

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Predictability? It was based on a true story...go back in time and tell those bastards to come up with a more original story to rescue hostages? What?