Argo - wasn't the fake movie stuff unnecessary ?

[dave_the_nerd]

Political Impact :thumbsup:

*snerk*

Couldn't have made Hidalgo before 9/11 either.

 

[Krazy4Real]

Sheesh, tough crowd this morning.

Oh you, only on internet a joke is turned into a serious issue of our education system falling apart.

It's ok... I laughed.

 

[gorcorps]

Sheesh, tough crowd this morning.

Oh you, only on internet a joke is turned into a serious issue of our education system falling apart.

Don't worry about morning gorcorps, that guy's an asshole. They really should keep his internet and phone turned off until 10am.

 

[Phoenix86]

Was it a documentary? There's your answer.

 

[Sureshot324]

Fair enough, but it seems like the complexity of that backstory was a bit uncalled for, when any thorough backstory with someone waiting by the phone to authenticate it would have worked. I think my annoyance, however mild (I'm not burning effigies of Affleck here) is that they script is spun in a way to give credit to Hollywood and the magic of movie making for the saving of 6 lies, when any other thoroughly executed would have been as effective and brought less attention to themselves.

The fact that it was crazy actually made it more believable to the airport security, since they would be expecting a much more mundane story. I don't think it was smart to actually go out to pretend to make the movie though. It would draw a lot of attention to themselves and someone might have recognized their faces. It looked like the airport security never even heard of this anyway. Some posters/story boards and someone waiting by the phone was all they needed.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Movies about movies always do really well with critics and the Academy.

 

[torpid]

It just seems like the Canadian paperwork and their assistance was really what secured these people's safe passage - if they walked onto the plane pretending to be a volleyball team.. Or a group of teachers - or anything, really, them having the correct and legit documents seemed to be all they really needed to succeed, right? Or am I missing something?

Check out this article in wired about the real Canadian Caper. It was more complicated than what you describe.

 

[Triumph]

So the ending 5-10 minutes of the movie was completely historically accurate, right? The army was chasing the 747 down the runway as it took off? I heard that may have been a bit exaggerated. But I am not sure.

 

[zerocool84]

So the ending 5-10 minutes of the movie was completely historically accurate, right? The army was chasing the 747 down the runway as it took off? I heard that may have been a bit exaggerated. But I am not sure.

From what I read on Wikipedia, none of that airport stuff was true, them chasing the plane down the runway, them almost not getting through to the plane with the guards. What it said was that they got through fairly easily.

 

[KeithTalent]

From what I read on Wikipedia, none of that airport stuff was true, them chasing the plane down the runway, them almost not getting through to the plane with the guards. What it said was that they got through fairly easily.

Seemed painfully obvious to me it was all contrived. That plane chase bit felt like it was out of The Simpsons (not a compliment).

KT

 

[NikolaeVarius]

So the ending 5-10 minutes of the movie was completely historically accurate, right? The army was chasing the 747 down the runway as it took off? I heard that may have been a bit exaggerated. But I am not sure.

The actual caper was extremely terrifying because the people knew that if they messed up, they were going to die or maybe worse. They didn't hit any major snags or anything.

This doesn't necessarily work well for a film context, because nothing actually happens. In reality, they mostly just kinda stood around and waited and tried not to get noticed, which they didn't.

Would be a boring as shit movie.

 

[KeithP]

Political Impact :thumbsup:

I would have thought that Iran understands that Hollywood/the left are one of their best allies in the US. It is probably just posturing.

-KeithP

 

[KeithTalent]

The actual caper was extremely terrifying because the people knew that if they messed up, they were going to die or maybe worse. They didn't hit any major snags or anything.

This doesn't necessarily work well for a film context, because nothing actually happens. In reality, they mostly just kinda stood around and waited and tried not to get noticed, which they didn't.

Would be a boring as shit movie.

Not really. If there was a good director and writer on it, it could be extremely tense and feel far more real than the stuff they did here.

KT

 

[Ashenor]

Watched it last night it was kind of a yawner.

 

[zinfamous]

I would have thought that Iran understands that Hollywood/the left are one of their best allies in the US. It is probably just posturing.

-KeithP

that's hilariously misguided

Not really. If there was a good director and writer on it, it could be extremely tense and feel far more real than the stuff they did here.

KT

Affleck described this pretty well on Fresh Air recently--his job was to depict the drama that these people were actually feeling, in real life. There may not have been car chases or last second run downs through the airport, but be sure that the people involved in this operation, during every second of the operation, were experienced quite a bit of terror and fear. The purpose of the film is to convey the reality of that fear and that suspense, in a way that the audience can understand it.

This is how you make drama out of reality, without cheapening the facts. The drama and fear for them absolutely was real--and that is the story.

 

[EagleKeeper]

More Iranian reaction

Showing shoulders == improperly clothed

 

[mugs]

I thought the "fake movie stuff" you were talking about was the absurd chase scene at the end. That was Hollywood BS. All of the "fake movie stuff" they did for the movie-within-the-movie was actually legit, based on reality. Maybe it wasn't necessary, but being thorough is better than being unprepared.

Honestly, I thought the chase scene was so cringe-worthy that it shouldn't have won Best Picture. The best film of the year shouldn't be one that has scenes that make me laugh because of their unintentional absurdity. That kind of takes you out of the movie.

 

[Printer Bandit]

 

[KeithTalent]

that's hilariously misguided



Affleck described this pretty well on Fresh Air recently--his job was to depict the drama that these people were actually feeling, in real life. There may not have been car chases or last second run downs through the airport, but be sure that the people involved in this operation, during every second of the operation, were experienced quite a bit of terror and fear. The purpose of the film is to convey the reality of that fear and that suspense, in a way that the audience can understand it.

This is how you make drama out of reality, without cheapening the facts. The drama and fear for them absolutely was real--and that is the story.

Hogwash. Watch a movie like Army of Shadows and you can see how amazing, edge of your seat tension can be created without all of the Hollywood bombast present in something like Argo. It's adding completely unnecessary elements to an already compelling story and making it a worse film by doing so. Create compelling atmosphere and characters we care about, so we are concerned about what is happening to them. It does not need to be a car chase, it can be the turn of a head or the furrow of a brow. THAT is compelling drama (or can be, in the right hands), not a laughable car-plane chase.

KT

 

[Heller]

it was good, but not something that i watch over and over, i think the town was a much better movie, i watched that at least 3-5 times and enjoyed it thoroughly

 

[American Gunner]

Thanks for all the spoiler alerts guys, you ruined the ending for me now.

 

[Ashenor]

Thanks for all the spoiler alerts guys, you ruined the ending for me now.

Winter is coming

 

[KeithTalent]

Winter is coming

Son, I am discontent.

KT

 

[silverpig]

Seemed painfully obvious to me it was all contrived. That plane chase bit felt like it was out of The Simpsons (not a compliment).

KT

...especially if you've ever been on an airplane. A jeep could keep up with a 747 on a takeoff run for all of 5 seconds.


(unless the plane was on a treadmill of course)

 

[NFS4]

Thanks for all the spoiler alerts guys, you ruined the ending for me now.

You can't be serious?