Argo - wasn't the fake movie stuff unnecessary ?

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Now, I didn't really like the movie because of the predictability (a movie like Munich featured retelling history but with a lot more drama and suspense), but wasn't much of the complicated fake movie plot really over complicating things? Don't get me wrong, there were far more terrible movies released and I'm not approaching from a critical of the movie point of view. It just seems like the Canadian paperwork and their assistance was really what secured these people's safe passage - if they walked onto the plane pretending to be a volleyball team.. Or a group of teachers - or anything, really, them having the correct and legit documents seemed to be all they really needed to succeed, right? Or am I missing something?
 
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Red Storm

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It wouldn't be a movie without added fake drama like airport car chases and whatnot.
 

Zeze

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freedomsbeat212- wall of text crits for 873 damage!

It's super effective!

ATOT is knocked out!
 

NFS4

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I think you're overthinking it too much. It was a good movie. Humor, suspense, drama; it had it all.

Ben Affleck as a director is growing on me just as Leo DiCaprio grew on me as an actor over the years.
 

GasX

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When the penalty for failure is death, it usually helps to go to the extra effort to ensure your backstory checks out to ANY level of scrutiny.
 

Zeze

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I think you're overthinking it too much. It was a good movie. Humor, suspense, drama; it had it all.

Ben Affleck as a director is growing on me just as Leo DiCaprio grew on me as an actor over the years.
I really thought Argo was overrated as hell. GF and I almost fell asleep and the ending was obviously.. predictable. That isn't bad itself if the plot thickening was actually good.. that was mediocre too.

His previous directorial work was far more entertaining- The Town.
 
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I refuse to watch hacky political propaganda films "based on real events".
 

NFS4

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I really thought Argo was overrated as hell. GF and I almost fell asleep and the ending was obviously.. predictable. That isn't bad itself if the plot thickening was actually good.. that was mediocre too.

His previous directorial work was far more entertaining- The Town.

To each his own
 

gorcorps

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freedomsbeat212- wall of text crits for 873 damage!

It's super effective!

Zeze is knocked out!

FTFY

you certainly do not speak for ATOT

Thinking that's a "wall of text" just shows how quickly our education system is falling apart.
 

Zeze

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FTFY

you certainly do not speak for ATOT

Thinking that's a "wall of text" just shows how quickly our education system is falling apart.

Sheesh, tough crowd this morning.

Oh you, only on internet a joke is turned into a serious issue of our education system falling apart.
 

Ns1

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Why would a volley ball team be in Iran?

I'm pretty sure they went over the teachers thing in the movie too.
 
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Now, I didn't really like the movie because of the predictability (a movie like Munich featured retelling history but with a lot more drama and suspense), but wasn't much of the complicated fake movie plot really over complicating things? Don't get me wrong, there were far more terrible movies released and I'm not approaching from a critical of the movie point of view. It just seems like the Canadian paperwork and their assistance was really what secured these people's safe passage - if they walked onto the plane pretending to be a volleyball team.. Or a group of teachers - or anything, really, them having the correct and legit documents seemed to be all they really needed to succeed, right? Or am I missing something?

Plausibility.

They needed a backstory and an excuse that would stand up to some degree of scrutiny. (Like when the customs guys called the "production company" in Hollywood.)
 
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Why would a volley ball team be in Iran?

I'm pretty sure they went over the teachers thing in the movie too.

I was being silly with the Volleyball suggestion - I think they go over the teachers thing in a passing way, seems more logical than a film crew in a hostile environment, to be honest. I know they justified it in the course of the script, but their plan seems needlessly complicated when they really just showed papers and boarded a plane.
 
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Plausibility.

They needed a backstory and an excuse that would stand up to some degree of scrutiny. (Like when the customs guys called the "production company" in Hollywood.)

Fair enough, but it seems like the complexity of that backstory was a bit uncalled for, when any thorough backstory with someone waiting by the phone to authenticate it would have worked. I think my annoyance, however mild (I'm not burning effigies of Affleck here) is that they script is spun in a way to give credit to Hollywood and the magic of movie making for the saving of 6 lies, when any other thoroughly executed would have been as effective and brought less attention to themselves.
 
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Fair enough, but it seems like the complexity of that backstory was a bit uncalled for, when any thorough backstory with someone waiting by the phone to authenticate it would have worked. I think my annoyance, however mild (I'm not burning effigies of Affleck here) is that they script is spun in a way to give credit to Hollywood and the magic of movie making for the saving of 6 lies, when any other thoroughly executed would have been as effective and brought less attention to themselves.

The characters in the film discussed this, and explained why other cover stories wouldn't work (wrong time of year, all the english teachers were expelled, whatever.)

Also, since the cover was one thing the movie didn't embellish or make up... truth is sometimes stranger than fiction?
 

Ns1

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You know the movie thing actually happened in real life right? So this "plausibility" stuff you're talking about...
 

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Fair enough, but it seems like the complexity of that backstory was a bit uncalled for, when any thorough backstory with someone waiting by the phone to authenticate it would have worked. I think my annoyance, however mild (I'm not burning effigies of Affleck here) is that they script is spun in a way to give credit to Hollywood and the magic of movie making for the saving of 6 lies, when any other thoroughly executed would have been as effective and brought less attention to themselves.

This was explained in the movie. Are you sure you watched it?

I saw it last night and yes while I didn't think it was best movie of the year worthy, it was still good.
 

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This was explained in the movie. Are you sure you watched it?

I saw it last night and yes while I didn't think it was best movie of the year worthy, it was still good.

Was also explained in the trailers.