Me
Self righteous much? I've never been so confused as to how, someone as smart as you, would not realize how condescending and self righteous you would look by going on your little rant about my cultural ignorance. I posted everything that was said on a busy, culturally diverse webforum, and people are equally as confused as to why you would take such offense to what I said, even mexicans and people that study mexican culture. I can send you the link if you want. I'm not trying to fight with you, as I enjoy debate, but the personal attacks are a bit over the line, don't you think? The only reason I'm not giving you the link now, is because I think you would freak out if you saw what other people thought about what you said to me.
You could have easily, and politely corrected me, rather than going on some self righteous rant about cultural awareness because you have some other underlying problem with me. Sorry I don't know everything about everyone.
We're a far ways away from staying up late and talking on the phone like we used to, or sitting at the coffee house hanging out while you cracked my knuckles.
Her
"like i said- if you offend people's race and sex, because of biases or simply ignorance, (how could i know which?) people tend to handle it as such, and offense. should i say thanks for handling as though of no importance the things that you have the privilege of not being affected by since you're white and male? you have made it clear that you just don't get or don't care about the sex issues in western religion. and write off an entire perspective of struggling women by saying "oh she's good at playing devils advocate." well i'm not playing, this is something that i've had to struggle with because i'm not lucky enough to have a penis. and then as though these issues are some amusing game to you, you move right on to race issues...whatever, jason. if you don't like people standing up to your offensive viewpoints, then stop saying them so publicly."
Me
HER NAME HERE! I did not choose to be born white or male so if you think I have some kind of elitist perspective about one sex, race or another, you are mistaken. I DO think that women should be submissive to their husbands, and this assumes a peaceful and respectful marriage, but that's it. I don't think women should be submissive to men in general though. I love to see women succeed and be independat. You are completely over reacting about the race thing though, and I'm not sure why someone of your intellect would react like that. I even acknowledged my ignorance by saying 'not sure', and rather than politely correcting me, you went on some very insulting, self righteous attack. You should know I take what you say seriously, respect it, and give it consideration. You don't need to attack me personally.
Her
ok- i don't know what goes on in your head, but how you present your views would make one believe that you do have an elitist perspective, and you don't even care that how you present it to the public is offensive to people who are actually affected by those things. you can believe whatever you want about how wives should be, and whatever you want about people of other cultures... lets just leave it at that, i'd rather not get upset over someone's views who is completely removed from the issues and unaffected either way.
Me
Again, what exactly did I say about race that was offensive? I posted everything I said in a forum and nobody found offense in what I said, then went on to make fun of your over-the-top responses, even mexicans.
Her
well you have the support of internet mexicans. good for you. its an issue of culturally-perpetuating language. like the argument of whether black people can say *****. some would say that its a word that has different meaning when used among themselves and its ok. others would say its perpetuating oppression among themselves. but either way its not for non-blacks to address. anyway. really, jason, just drop it. you've offended me enough and cant even comprehend why. that should be an indicator that you are very removed from the issue and to further push it would be revealing the extent of your ignorance and lack or respect for cultural differences.
Me
Are you seriously crazy? That or are you are just a little bit self righteous about the issue? What again did I say about race that was offensive? Tell me again. I'm not making light about anything. Do you want that link?
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