Are you going to miss Obama?

[Sonikku]

Election in a few days and his term is nearing its end. Regardless of the race outcome, will you miss Obama?

 

[Z15CAM]

As a Canadian I don't care who you elect - Just reform or rid of NAFTA.

 

[Sonikku]

That policy was set by the monied elite. There's no way to change that regardless of which president is elected.

 

[rudder]

The Iranians will sure miss him.

 

[nickqt]

The Iranians will sure miss him.

Herp?

Nope, derp!

 

[sandorski]

Regardless who wins, the US is going to have a tumultuous next 4 years. With Hillary it will be a more vociferous Republican attack on the President, continuing the obsessive opposition to anything she tries to do along with constant attempts to Impeach her for any little thing. With Trump it will be constant gaffes and stupid policy positions that will make G W Bush look brilliant in comparison. With the Republican Party with its' head so far up its' ass it's hard to see any improvement by 2020.

 

[MongGrel]

Regardless who wins, the US is going to have a tumultuous next 4 years. With Hillary it will be a more vociferous Republican attack on the President, continuing the obsessive opposition to anything she tries to do along with constant attempts to Impeach her for any little thing. With Trump it will be constant gaffes and stupid policy positions that will make G W Bush look brilliant in comparison. With the Republican Party with its' head so far up its' ass it's hard to see any improvement by 2020.

If Hillary is elected maybe the GOP congress might outright start spitting at her, instead of someone out right screaming "Liar" like the first time Obama walked in.

Keep it classy GOP

 

[MovingTarget]

Obama will be remembered fondly by history. He wasn't perfect, but he was one of the greatest we've had in a very long time.

/breaks into song

You don't know what you've got....`till its gone.........

 

[Red Squirrel]

As a Canadian I don't care who you elect - Just reform or rid of NAFTA.

And scrap the TPP.

TPP is going to be 10x as worse as NAFTA. Pisses me off how these things even exist. Governments should be working for the people not corporate agendas. Things like NAFTA and TPP do not benifit anyone except for rich high end head honchos while costing millions of jobs and compromising safety (TPP will do this especially with food) and freedom.

As for Obama I don't care either way but He sure is better than the current two candidates, so I will kinda miss him I suppose.

 

[trenchfoot]

Considering the wall the Repubs put up around the White House, he did a pretty good job of herding the nation through the recovery of the financial meltdown he inherited from Bush/Cheney.

And I still don't know what the **** Trump's nebulously vague "Make America Great Again" shtick is, other than he's going to grease the skids for big business to loot and scoot like they did when Bush turned them loose on the general public.

And if given the opportunity, they'll do it all over again. They can't help themselves. It's their sole purpose in life.

 

[MongGrel]

And I still don't know what the **** Trump's nebulously vague "Make America Great Again" shtick is, other than he's going to grease the skids for big business to loot and scoot like they did when Bush turned them loose on the general public.

This.

Maybe even worse, I'd predict.

 

[John Connor]

My dad and I bought fireworks for January. Yeah, he will be missed alright. LMAO! Man was a complete JACKASS! Bush may not have been perfect, but there was no rise of ISIS and homeland attacks, BLM, riots and all the other division this great divider in chief has created.

Now feel free to quote crap in typical diaper wearing P&N fashion.

 

[nickqt]

My dad and I bought fireworks for January. Yeah, he will be missed alright. LMAO! Man was a complete JACKASS! Bush may not have been perfect, but there was no rise of ISIS and homeland attacks, BLM, riots and all the other division this great divider in chief has created.

Now feel free to quote crap in typical diaper wearing P&N fashion.

You do have a point. Way more Americans were killed by terrorists during Obama's term than Bush. And don't even get me started on ISIS and how Obama destabilized an entire country and region to give them a foothold there.

Just kidding, you really are an imbecile.

 

[Brainonska511]

but there was no rise of ISIS and homeland attacks

No homeland attacks, huh? 9/11 doesn't count? Is there some rule like you get one terrorist attack for free before it starts to count against your record?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

If Clinton wins, no. If Trump wins, probably.

 

[John Connor]

[/QUOTE]

No homeland attacks, huh? 9/11 doesn't count? Is there some rule like you get one terrorist attack for free before it starts to count against your record?

After 9/11 I found it unrepresented there wasn't another attack. During Obozo's reign? One after another.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Miss him in what way? I sure wont miss him.

Bronco Bama was only slightly better than Jimmy Carter and very divisive to America.

 

[John Connor]

Miss him in what way?

'Like with a cloth.' 'Because what difference does it make?'

 

[nickqt]

After 9/11 I found it unrepresented there wasn't another attack. During Obozo's reign? One after another.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you're very delusional, we've already established that.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

After 9/11 I found it unrepresented there wasn't another attack. During Obozo's reign? One after another.

First, 9/11 was incredibly unprecedented. There has never been a terrorist attack on American soil even a tenth as deadly afaik. Giving that a pass because it had been a whole eight years (I mean golly gee that's a lifetime isn't it?) since the last WTC attack is a joke. Second, what do you mean there wasn't another attack? What were the Beltway snipers, or the Times Square bombing attempts?

 

[John Connor]

I can literately sit here and reload the page and I'll see one quote crap after another.

Divider In Chief is how Obozo is going down, PERIOD. End of story, over and out!

 

[trenchfoot]

My dad and I bought fireworks for January. Yeah, he will be missed alright. LMAO! Man was a complete JACKASS! Bush may not have been perfect, but there was no rise of ISIS and homeland attacks, BLM, riots and all the other division this great divider in chief has created.

Now feel free to quote crap in typical diaper wearing P&N fashion.

Well, I don't know how anybody else feels, but I want to compliment you and thank you for posting this most honest and sincere bullshit of yours.

I find your posts both entertaining and revolting, which is IMO, a rare talent that few have mastered.

I tip my hat and fart in your general direction for the added value that you contribute to this forum.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

John Connor, you realize that even God Emperor Trump says that Dubya failed to keep us safe, right? Can't you agree with that if Trump says it's so?

 

[John Connor]

 

[Commodus]

I'll miss him, though he definitely wasn't perfect.

To me, his biggest accomplishments stem from restoring basic levels of intellect and compassion to the White House. It was an administration that actually respected science, women, minorities and LGBT people instead of spitting on them like Bush Jr. did. Where Bush let himself be manipulated by neoconservatives into adopting an overly simplistic view of the world ("you're either with us, or with the terrorists") that alienated even close allies, Obama acknowledged something of the complex, nuanced reality and worked to bring allies back.

I'd also note that Obama was likely well-timed in terms of getting the US government to embrace technology. Social networks, open data, much-improved petitioning, you name it.

The main problem as I see it: some of his policies either had questionable effectiveness or didn't go far enough. He was certainly hamstrung by an obstructionist Republican party (we'll vote against whatever you support, even if we would have voted for it under a Republican leader), but an initiative like Obamacare is... wishy-washy. It's what you create when opponents won't let you institute a more effective single-payer health care system, but stubborn pride prevents you from realizing that a halfway solution won't work that well. Either push for meaningful change or propose relatively low-risk changes -- don't try to split down the middle and annoy everyone.

ISIS? That's tricky. I do think Obama and crew were slower to respond than they should have been and might not have handled the Iraq exit properly, but I don't think it was as easy to predict the rise of the group as some critics claim. And remember, ISIS wouldn't even exist if Bush, Cheney and crew hadn't invaded Iraq based on a massive lie. (Yes, Hussein might still have been in power... I'm not saying the alternative was sunshine and roses.)