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Are you going to go see FAHRENHEIT 9/11?[POLL]

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Come on Perknose, I bet all that time he looked like he was just sitting, he was involved in an intense bout of strategery and came up with the entire Iraq war plan.
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Didn't they come up with the plan back in 1999?
 
I voted no but i think i will. the problems with his movies is that whenever someone shows an instance where he lied he says "its a satire" so its ok. Ill see it because i think he is a moron and he makes me laugh. Like that part in bowling where he gets in that cops face asking him to arrest someone for polluting the air. Good stuff.
 
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Not so. With one exception, corrected on the DVD, Moore got his facts right. His presentation is sometimes misleading, however. Through artful editing, Moore sometimes arranges material to create inaccurate impressions. This is the same technique Bush & Co. uses so often, e.g., to continually suggest a link between Iraq and 9/11.

In some ways it's unfortunate Moore resorts to such trickery, but his work wouldn't be as entertaining otherwise. When watching his work, one must recognize that Moore doesn't pretend to be objective. He is tyring to persuade the viewer. The information is real, the presentation sculpted to reinforce his message.
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Then the statement is true for his pieces being called "documentaries", if anything they are opinion pieces with ramdom facts for support, not true documentaries.
 
2:1 ratio so far, so good.

It's a fools bet to say this movie won't smash all box-office records for documentaries, here and abroad.
 
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Come on Perknose, I bet all that time he looked like he was just sitting, he was involved in an intense bout of strategery and came up with the entire Iraq war plan.
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Didn't they come up with the plan back in 1999?
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I think they had the plan, but it took Bush 11 minutes to remember that word 'stragegery'.
 
Originally posted by: bozack
Then the statement is true for his pieces being called "documentaries", if anything they are opinion pieces with ramdom facts for support, not true documentaries.
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Right, what Michael Moore makes are not "documentaries", they are full blown political polemics, unabashedly meant to underscore his particular point of view.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Come on Perknose, I bet all that time he looked like he was just sitting, he was involved in an intense bout of strategery and came up with the entire Iraq war plan.
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Didn't they come up with the plan back in 1999?
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I think they had the plan, but it took Bush 11 minutes to remember that word 'stragegery'.
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Was he making his little "poopy face" while he tried to remember it?
 
Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Not so. With one exception, corrected on the DVD, Moore got his facts right. His presentation is sometimes misleading, however. Through artful editing, Moore sometimes arranges material to create inaccurate impressions. This is the same technique Bush & Co. uses so often, e.g., to continually suggest a link between Iraq and 9/11.

In some ways it's unfortunate Moore resorts to such trickery, but his work wouldn't be as entertaining otherwise. When watching his work, one must recognize that Moore doesn't pretend to be objective. He is tyring to persuade the viewer. The information is real, the presentation sculpted to reinforce his message.
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Then the statement is true for his pieces being called "documentaries", if anything they are opinion pieces with ramdom facts for support, not true documentaries.
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Not exactly. The statement I responded to -- "Yes...it's been well documented how much of a twisting of the facts Bowling for Columbine is. " -- was not true. I do agree, however, that it's a stretch to call Moore's movies "documentaries" even though they are factual. They are obviously intended to persuade others to Moore's point of view.
 
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
I just saw the preview for it. I'm psyched to see how all the congress men who voted for the war squeame away when Moore suggestes they tell their kids to enlist, and when it is revealed that most of the as$holes who voted for the Patriot Act never even read it. I don't like Moore's style per se, but the people he interviews are some of the key players and I want to see what they have to say.
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Ditto to that. The look on the face of the congress man he was had approached was enough to make me want to see it, the fact that these guys can make rules but not live by them is quite sad.
 
Thank you Michael Moore for doing your part in making the U.S. a better country...
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And to that, I'll add ... "Now make America even better and jump off the nearest bridge, Mr. Moore." 😉
 
Originally posted by: CyberTron
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
I just saw the preview for it. I'm psyched to see how all the congress men who voted for the war squeame away when Moore suggestes they tell their kids to enlist, and when it is revealed that most of the as$holes who voted for the Patriot Act never even read it. I don't like Moore's style per se, but the people he interviews are some of the key players and I want to see what they have to say.
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Ditto to that. The look on the face of the congress man he was had approached was enough to make me want to see it, the fact that these guys can make rules but not live by them is quite sad.
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Actually, that guy responded with saying he had a nephew in the military and had another close relative on his way as well.

Michael Moore said "Thank you" to him and went on his way. But that was all edited around for the trailer, of course.
 
I'm going to download it, pirate it.... thereby stealing directly from Michael Moore. Wooohoo... just doin my best to make an impact.

-Max

Theft is not condoned here. You have earned a vacation.

AnandTech Moderator
 
Originally posted by: CyberTron
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
I just saw the preview for it. I'm psyched to see how all the congress men who voted for the war squeame away when Moore suggestes they tell their kids to enlist, and when it is revealed that most of the as$holes who voted for the Patriot Act never even read it. I don't like Moore's style per se, but the people he interviews are some of the key players and I want to see what they have to say.
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Ditto to that. The look on the face of the congress man he was had approached was enough to make me want to see it, the fact that these guys can make rules but not live by them is quite sad.
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What you see from Moore...

and what you don't see.

Rep. Kennedy no fan of Michael Moore film ad
 
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
i'm sure the 9/11 the movie would seem right-wing compared to the posts on P&N.

why woudl i want to waste my money seeing a movie made by that obese slandering cretin.
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And here's heartsurgeon, making his usual insightful comments.

Maybe you should stop getting your opinions from the other obese slandering cretin (Rush).
 
Originally posted by: daveshel
Yes, I'll see that instead of a Disney release this summer!
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That's what I'm saying. I'll go just to spite Disney of the portion of my $8 they would have received, had not Eisner chickened-out.
 
I dont feel the need to be Educated (Indoctrinated) by Mr Moore. School systems and the colleges I attended tried to make me a socialist, but they all failed. Working in the Education Field, I see a lot of the flap trap. My wife was born in South Korea and they forced her to take a non-western course for her degree program. The problem is she is a walking non-western Course.
 
Michael Moore, man of the people.

I was awakened to a pleasant surprise on my radio alarm this morning - the soothing, dulcinous voice of Michael Moore. It's always great listening to Mike, because he's a true Man of the People, a blue-collar hero for blue-collar America. Sure, he hasn't worked a day's worth of hard labor in his life, but that only adds to his working-class charm.

Anyhoo - After a searing diatribe against Rush Limbaugh's pill-hopping hypocrisy, in which he demanded that be tossed into a deep dark hole to rot and die, Mike attacked the evils of our capitalist system and how it exploits the working class.

I found this enlightening because unlike Rush Limbaugh - Mike is no hypocrite. He doesn't profit from the blood, sweat, and tears of the working man. On the contrary - Mike divides all the profits from his books and movies equally amongst the people who produce them. Everyone from the folks who work the presses that print his wonderful books, right down to the gal who brings him his gallon of raw cookie dough every six minutes - they all get a big fat check from Mike. The only profit Mike takes from his work is the satisfaction that some poor working slob, who deserves the money far more than he, won't be living in abject squalor because a rich corporate fat cat took all the loot for himself. Even more astonishing is that Mike relinquishes all creative control over his books and films to the people who actually do the labor. The famous rabbit scene in Roger & Me? That was the brainchild of Todd, the college intern who follows Mike around and picks up his empty beer cans and twinkie wrappers. The part in Bowling for Columbine where Mike gets a free gun at the bank? That idea was actually suggested by Rico, the undocumented worker who details Mike's Lexus every Tuesday, then voted on by committee, and finally submitted to Mike for compulsory inclusion in the film. You see, Michael doesn't only PREACH the doctrine of socialism, he also LIVES it. Of course, there aren't the usual 10 million dead peasants that usually precede socialist utopias, but have patience...Rage Against the Machine has already agreed to headline at Mike's Great American Purge Tour.
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LOL, even Liberal Larry don't like Mike.
 
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