Are we there yet? Anybody still in doubt that a Trump Presidency is a national disaster?

[TastesLikeChicken]

It's ok bunky. You got the president that you deserve.

lol. You got the president that you didn't want and seem completely bent out of shape about.

You might want to learn to deal because you have AT LEAST 4 years of him. But no doubt I can count on you to be the same sort of idiot that ranted against Obama for 8 years. You are all cut from the same moronic, partisan cloth.

 

[IronWing]

Thanks. It will be. It will be less ponderous and less specious than your post as well.

I know some people that voted for Trump that have multiple PhDs, are in med school. are lawyers, whatever. I may not agree with them but they aren't idiots by any stretch of the imagination. The people who believe only backwards hillbillies voted for Trump are the real idiots; and they underestimated their competition, so who are the real fools?

They're still idiots for voting for Trump.

 

[Moonbeam]

Honestly I'm inclined to agree.

The rationale that went into selecting him would never fly in selecting a candidate for any other job, from something as lowly as a janitor to something as lofty as CEO of a major fortune 500 company. The reality is most companies would NOTselect Donald Trump to be their CEO if a vacancy was present (other CEOs openly mock him!). Most janitorial companies wouldn't select him. He would be disqualified from flipping burgers at McDonald and from being your church pastor. Most people wouldn't trust him to be their baby sitter for a few nights. I literally cannot think of one job other than leader of a white supremacy movement or something alongst those lines, something fringe culty that he would legitimately be the best at.

There is zero argument to be made that the decision to choose him was based on reason and good judgement. Voting for donald trump was a vote by stupidity for stupidity and we are the laughingstock of the world as a consequence. He tells his slack jawed followers the sky is red, bigfoot is real, and russia is our friend and they believe him.

If you have a conservative brain defect the fact that the world is laughing at you just means you are right.

 

[Sunburn74]

Honestly, the fundamental flaw of the conservative brain is the inability to hold two simple but mildly conflicting ideas at once and still function.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

They're still idiots for voting for Trump.

Many of them would say the same thing about those that voted for Hillary.

Personally, I think both sides are idiots. But that's just my opinion. And you know what they say about opinions.

 

[Moonbeam]

You are all cut from the same moronic, partisan cloth..

You seem to be enraged at Democrats because they ran a candidate that lost. You do you justify that anger? Democrats chose to run Clinton. They wanted her for their candidate. What lesson do you want them to learn, vote for somebody to run you don't want to win? I do not understand the rage. Everything happened exactly as it had to. Now you are asking people to be different than they have to be. Does me telling you this make you different?

 

[Victorian Gray]

lol. You got the president that you didn't want and seem completely bent out of shape about.

You might want to learn to deal because you have AT LEAST 4 years of him. But no doubt I can count on you to be the same sort of idiot that ranted against Obama for 8 years. You are all cut from the same moronic, partisan cloth.

Not American so I don't have to worry about not getting the president I want and don't have to deal with this particular jackass for the next 4 to 8 years. That's your job. Enjoy the Republicans turning the US into Kansas.

So, keep on spewing that vitriol dude. You're the guy who ate up the propaganda of the past 30 or so years and, as I said, you now have the president that *you* deserve.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Not American so I don't have to worry about not getting the president I want and don't have to deal with this particular jackass for the next 4 to 8 years. That's your job. Enjoy the Republicans turning the US into Kansas.

So, keep on spewing that vitriol dude. You're the guy who ate up the propaganda of the past 30 or so years and, as I said, you now have the president that *you* deserve.

You aren't American yet are so bent out of shape about him that you feel inclined to post crap about him endlessly in an online forum?

lol. You clearly have some serious issues.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

You seem to be enraged at Democrats because they ran a candidate that lost. You do you justify that anger? Democrats chose to run Clinton. They wanted her for their candidate. What lesson do you want them to learn, vote for somebody to run you don't want to win? I do not understand the rage. Everything happened exactly as it had to. Now you are asking people to be different than they have to be. Does me telling you this make you different?

Enraged? Not at all. I am merely pointing out that Democrats lost this election through miscalculation, not that Trump won it.

But people like you refuse to accept that the fault is their own. Remain in denial. Doing so will only serve to fuck you over in the next election.

 

[Victorian Gray]

You aren't American yet are so bent out of shape about him that you feel inclined to post crap about him endlessly in an online forum?

lol. You clearly have some serious issues.

Bent out of shape? Well, if you say so bunky.

Enjoy the next 4 years. You earned 'em.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Not American so I don't have to worry about not getting the president I want and don't have to deal with this particular jackass for the next 4 to 8 years. That's your job. Enjoy the Republicans turning the US into Kansas.

So, keep on spewing that vitriol dude. You're the guy who ate up the propaganda of the past 30 or so years and, as I said, you now have the president that *you* deserve.

You're not American?

In that case I don't give a single shit about your opinion since you didn't vote for any candidate and have no impact in the US vote. Go whine about your own politicians from wherever you're from because in US politics your opinion has zero value. Please STFU. Goodbye.

 

[Victorian Gray]

You're not American?

In that case I don't give a single shit about your opinion since you didn't vote for any candidate and have no impact in the US vote. Go whine about your own politicians from wherever you're from because in US politics your opinion has zero value. Please STFU. Goodbye.

Sorry if I contributed to your triggering.

 

[MrSquished]

You're not American?

In that case I don't give a single shit about your opinion since you didn't vote for any candidate and have no impact in the US vote. Go whine about your own politicians from wherever you're from because in US politics your opinion has zero value. Please STFU. Goodbye.

actually we live on this thing called a planet. That calls for interaction between these things called nations and countries. You may not have to agree with anyone for whatever reason, but to dismiss anyone outright simply because they do not live here is stupid, shortsighted and probably retarded. We live in the most powerful country on the planet, to expect others to not give a shit as to what happens here is probably stupid.

 

[ivwshane]

How many previous Obama voters changed their vote to Trump? Do tell.

My gut would be that many Bernie voters voted for Trump out of spite. A few others voted for Trump simply because they couldn't stand Hillary. My guess would be that most though, or at least many, refused to vote for either one.

And except for the bitter ones, few care that 2+ million more voted for Hillary. If it had been the other way around and Hillary won via the EC you and others on the left in here would be laughing at the tools complaining about the popular vote, claiming they were uneducated idiots that didn't understand the long-established election process in this country.

I had a better source than this when I first read it but this will have to do.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...donald-trump-voters-there-are-plenty-of-them/

It wasn't a lot but it was enough to cause Hillary to lose in key areas. If you read or watch any interviews with these people they make zero sense in their reasoning to vote for trump.

 

[ivwshane]

lol. You got the president that you didn't want and seem completely bent out of shape about.

You might want to learn to deal because you have AT LEAST 4 years of him. But no doubt I can count on you to be the same sort of idiot that ranted against Obama for 8 years. You are all cut from the same moronic, partisan cloth.

You know he's Canadian right? He doesn't have to deal with shit but he can certainly point out the shit you will be dealing with.

 

[Moonbeam]

Enraged? Not at all. I am merely pointing out that Democrats lost this election through miscalculation, not that Trump won it.

But people like you refuse to accept that the fault is their own. Remain in denial. Doing so will only serve to fuck you over in the next election.

Look, I don't know what kind of hang up you might have about admitting anger so I won't say anything more about that other than your denial just looks completely, totally, and utterly preposterous to me.

Moving on to the relevant matter, that Democrats lost because they miscalculated rather than Trump won, I can say that what defeated liberals in my opinion is that they have a liberal brain defect a subject we can perhaps discuss. What I think I disagree with you on is that because I at least have no idea how to cure that defect, and one which most liberals I think even fail to recognize they have, is that they are somehow guilty of something because of it, ie that I have a right to criticize them. You even seem to want to blame me for their loss. I already know I am at fault. Except on this forum here where I argue my point of view, I do nothing out there in the world to create a movement for change. I wouldn't even know where to begin. There's lots of shit about me I haven't been able to fix. I know Trump would win the Republican nomination from the day he announced and I have been warning liberals here since that time the danger they were in. So tell me why liberals lose and what to do about it?

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Look, I don't know what kind of hang up you might have about admitting anger so I won't say anything more about that other than your denial just looks completely, totally, and utterly preposterous to me.

Moving on to the relevant matter, that Democrats lost because they miscalculated rather than Trump won, I can say that what defeated liberals in my opinion is that they have a liberal brain defect a subject we can perhaps discuss. What I think I disagree with you on is that because I at least have no idea how to cure that defect, and one which most liberals I think even fail to recognize they have, is that they are somehow guilty of something because of it, ie that I have a right to criticize them. You even seem to want to blame me for their loss. I already know I am at fault. Except on this forum here where I argue my point of view, I do nothing out there in the world to create a movement for change. I wouldn't even know where to begin. There's lots of shit about me I haven't been able to fix. I know Trump would win the Republican nomination from the day he announced and I have been warning liberals here since that time the danger they were in. So tell me why liberals lose and what to do about it?

*RUBS HANDS*

Lets discuss that "brain defect" oh brain researcher.

 

[Moonbeam]

*RUBS HANDS*

Lets discuss that "brain defect" oh brain researcher.

Here's the quick version. For billions of years animals have had a conservative brain, fight or flight when in danger, and all this automatically without reason or thought. Some lived to run another day but some jumped from the frying pan into the fire when perhaps what they ran from was the crack of a branch that had grown too heavy. Then along came the human neocortex and the capacity to anticipate the results of actions, to understand cause and effect. Now, the greater the reasoning skill of the brain the the better the course of action we can take. But compared to autonomic reactions, reasoning is slow.. So depending on the situation, whether the danger is real or imagined or whether the threat requires a near instantaneous response, reacting or reasoning can be effective or defective. It is the circumstance that we need to look at to call one or the other modality defective.

 

[pcgeek11]

Prior to 2000, the system yielded anomalous results only twice, both over 100 years ago. It has now yielded such results twice in 16 years, reflective of changing demographics.

It would be foolish to accept that as the new normal going forward regardless of who wins.

It's also foolish to use that as a justification for what really is a radical agenda that does not reflect the will of a plurality of voters.

Well you need to get busy and change that before 2020 if you don't like it.

 

[agent00f]

I'll be more than happy to prove I am a registered Independent; an Independent that voted for Obama...twice. An Independent that never voted for GWB. In fact, I have never, ever voted for a Republican for president, even Reagan. So you can take that nugget of information and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

btw, I do what I do in here because I absolutely detest the arrogant, smarmy, assholish, Internet liberals and lefties who seem to think they are so much smarter than everyone else. You guys aren't. You do nothing but make liberals and the left look like smug, idiotic morons. Therefore I will take every opportunity to piss on every one of you. Apparently people like you just love golden showers.

As I mentioned in very first posts, Obama had the charisma to charm simpletons that Clinton simply didn't, and I total agree that is a knock against her; it's a particularly important characteristic in a centrist candidate. This is just the reality of the matter whether you enjoy the implications of it or not.

Also worth noting I'm not here to run for office, therefore not terribly compelled sweet talk people who can't emotionally handle the way the world works.

As to your rationalizations, I would agree parroting conservative talking points to justify why you might act a certain way is a signal to the democrats to outdumb the GOP with that demographic in the future. That's why the next dnc candidate should consider preemptively registering/banning their own minority group and position themselves as the Real™ ultra-nationalist party, etc.

 

[MajinCry]

You're not American?

In that case I don't give a single shit about your opinion since you didn't vote for any candidate and have no impact in the US vote. Go whine about your own politicians from wherever you're from because in US politics your opinion has zero value. Please STFU. Goodbye.

It's like you think the US is only five miles long, and five miles wide, with it's foreign interactions covering the same amount of area.

 

[agent00f]

Unless all the Trumpers are two-percenters who want to screw everybody else, I cannot understand what they see in the man.

You don't have to a two-percenter to desire screwing everyone else for personal interest. Thus they see themselves in trump, and more practically speaking they see an alignment of interests against the blue areas.

How many previous Obama voters changed their vote to Trump? Do tell.

My gut would be that many Bernie voters voted for Trump out of spite. A few others voted for Trump simply because they couldn't stand Hillary. My guess would be that most though, or at least many, refused to vote for either one.

Trump flipped the non-college white vote by 14% while the college white vote went 10% the other way for Clinton.

 

[agent00f]

Nah, he didn't wait for the election results, he made an ass of himself before that - in exactly the way you describe.

Notice the national polls were largely correct. The rust belt EC count was won by a pretty thin margin of voters. I've always thought it was funny that the entire self-congratulatory trumpster emotional roller coaster was based on the option of a handful of rednecks.

lol. That's some self-ownage right thar, VG. It's coming around to that time for AT ownage of the year awards. You just might be a candidate.

You sure do hate liberals for an "independent".

 

[Puffnstuff]

How many previous Obama voters changed their vote to Trump? Do tell.

Here in FL the Tampa/St. Petersburg area voted for Trump this time when its traditionally a Democratic county. On election night when I saw it go red I knew Trump had won the state. Here In Duval its almost always a near 50/50 split leaning slightly one way or the other depending on the candidate. Now that the election has passed I'll stick to SNL skits until the next cycle.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Sorry if I contributed to your triggering.

You're bitching and didn't even bother to vote? Really?