Are we there yet? Anybody still in doubt that a Trump Presidency is a national disaster?

[Jhhnn]

You are actually claiming that an election taking two full years of electioneering moved too quickly for the highly evolved leftist brain?

Maybe if you guys could defer the pressing issues like which restroom you should visit or which words become micro aggressions next, things like this wouldn't move more quickly than you can react.

He's claiming it moved in a way that exploited conservatives' mental processes faster than cognitive functions could counter the emotional impact of Trump's bullshit.

Trump & the Repubs exploited Brandolini's Law masterfully with a tsunami of bullshit.

By the time Trump voters figure out that they might get screwed they'll *be* screwed. That's the way a con artist operates, and Trump is the world's greatest.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

You're a real douche apple, trust me i have context and understanding of the situation at hand.

I'm bitching at a piece of shit Canadian that for some reason insists on commenting about United States politics as if any of us give a rat's ass about his petty little opinion. Go talk about pretty pony Justin and his Castro eulogy.

Oh the ironing.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

The way the researchers discovered the differences in conservative and liberal brains was by grouping them up according to how each of them defined his or herself. People who say they are conservative have larger amygdalae than folk who say they are liberals.

Would love to read anything you have on this. Nature or nurture?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

actually we live on this thing called a planet. That calls for interaction between these things called nations and countries. You may not have to agree with anyone for whatever reason, but to dismiss anyone outright simply because they do not live here is stupid, shortsighted and probably retarded. We live in the most powerful country on the planet, to expect others to not give a shit as to what happens here is probably stupid.

You know, there's this thing called "context." VG was being a douche about the EC and ended up owning himself in the process. He is dictating to US citizens who do vote, while he can't vote, and ended up being completely wrong.

Try to follow along next time. Thx.

 

[agent00f]

He's claiming it moved in a way that exploited conservatives' mental processes faster than cognitive functions could counter the emotional impact of Trump's bullshit.

Trump & the Repubs exploited Brandolini's Law masterfully with a tsunami of bullshit.

By the time Trump voters figure out that they might get screwed they'll *be* screwed. That's the way a con artist operates, and Trump is the world's greatest.

They'll only be screwed if they aren't where Trump needs votes.

The liberal mental defect is it instinctive believes people are good and therefore misled instead of self-interested and perfectly willing to mislead. Would Trump admit to attempts at scamming people any more than his predecessors or the buckshitters?

You know, there's this thing called "context." VG was being a douche about the EC and ended up owning himself in the process. He is dictating to US citizens who do vote, while he can't vote, and ended up being completely wrong.

Try to follow along next time. Thx.

Neocons were all about that american exceptionalism.

 

[Moonbeam]

werepossum: You are actually claiming that an election taking two full years of electioneering moved too quickly for the highly evolved leftist brain?

M: No, but I can say that yours just went off without thinking just as advertized.

w: Maybe if you guys could defer the pressing issues like which restroom you should visit or which words become micro aggressions next, things like this wouldn't move more quickly than you can react.

M: I think the proper liberal response to this is to inform you that no response could possibly be forthcoming that wouldn't require that I adopt the same shameless imbecility you so facily fancy..

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

You know he's Canadian right? He doesn't have to deal with shit but he can certainly point out the shit you will be dealing with.

The shit I will be dealing with is the same sort of rhetoric and over-statement that came from the right since Obama was elected. Except it will be coming from the other side now. Unfortunately, both sides just abound with dipshits who constantly feel the need to slime the party in power.

 

[agent00f]

The shit I will be dealing with is the same sort of rhetoric and over-statement that came from the right since Obama was elected. Except it will be coming from the other side now. Unfortunately, both sides just abound with dipshits who constantly feel the need to slime the party in power.

Will you benefit from the advertised ethnocentric fascism same as the most ardent trump fans, or just don't mind that they do?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Neocons were all about that american exceptionalism.

I picture you covering your face with one hand while swinging wildly with the other.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Will you benefit from ethnocentric fascism same as the most ardent trump fans, or just don't mind that they do?

I guess we'll have to see IF that actually happens. Right now I have to deal with highly speculative douchebags. At this point I'm not sure which are worse because one hasn't happened yet the speculative douchebags are already here in abundance..

 

[agent00f]

I picture you covering your face with one hand while swinging wildly with the other.

Pretty obvious where this is coming from:
"You're not American? In that case I don't give a single shit about your opinion since you didn't vote for any candidate and have no impact in the US vote. Go whine about your own politicians from wherever you're from because in US politics your opinion has zero value. Please STFU. Goodbye."

even if you can't figure it out yourself.

I guess we'll have to see IF that actually happens. Right now I have to deal with highly speculative douchebags. At this point I'm not sure which are worse because one hasn't happened yet the speculative douchebags are already here in abundance..

Funny you're admitting Trump & co are pathological liars, then trying to mouth off about people saying mean things to that effect about them. Good thing the alt-recruiters say you're smart because certainly nobody else is.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Pretty obvious where this is coming from:
"You're not American? In that case I don't give a single shit about your opinion since you didn't vote for any candidate and have no impact in the US vote. Go whine about your own politicians from wherever you're from because in US politics your opinion has zero value. Please STFU. Goodbye."

even if you can't figure it out yourself.



Funny you're admitting Trump & co are pathological liars, then trying to mouth off about people saying mean things to that effect about them. Good thing the alt-recruiters say you're smart because certainly nobody else is.

lol. You don't even see yourself acting equivalently to some racist asshole, just like you imagine Trump supporters are.

You should try re-reading your own tripe, then get back to me. If you don't quite "get it" I will be happy to 'splain it to you.

 

[agent00f]

lol. You don't even see yourself acting equivalently to some racist asshole, just like you imagine Trump supporters are.

You should try re-reading your own tripe, then get back to me. If you don't quite "get it" I will be happy to 'splain it to you.

Please do explain it instead of pretending it won't be embarrassing. Remember, the breitbart buckshitters compliment your intellect for "getting" both sides equally bad. Try to keep in mind you're comparing a centrist to an ethnocentrist fascist, and look those words up if it's all the same to you.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Please do explain it instead of pretending it won't be embarrassing. Remember, the breitbart buckshitters compliment your intellect for "getting" both sides equally bad.

"Will you benefit from the advertised ethnocentric fascism same as the most ardent trump fans, or just don't mind that they do?"

You lump "most ardent" Trump fans into the same bucket. That's the same thing that racists do. They build stereotypes in their mind and make generalized statements that are based on a few and extended to an entire group.

But maybe you're just too smart to comprehend all that?

 

[Jhhnn]

They'll only be screwed if they aren't where Trump needs votes.

Trump & the Repubs can't deliver economically to the rust belt using Repub ideology. That's why there is a rust belt in the first place.

They'll try to play up stuff like Carrier but the problem is a Helluva lot bigger than that.

Repubs will try to cover those deficiencies pandering to the culture war side of it. It's worked in the past & it may well prevail, sad to say.

They'll accept getting screwed if illegals & other outgroups get screwed harder. President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

 

[agent00f]

"Will you benefit from the advertised ethnocentric fascism same as the most ardent trump fans, or just don't mind that they do?"

You lump "most ardent" Trump fans into the same bucket. That's the same thing that racists do. They build stereotypes in their mind and make generalized statements that are based on a few and extended to an entire group.

But maybe you're just too smart to comprehend all that?

No, I'm smart enough to read what the data on them says. Like that study you were linked but couldn't make heads or tails of, which was hardly controversial given the ethnocentric fascist message resonated so resoundingly with them.

Of course despite this unimpeachable deficiency in any discernible competence/intellect, you continue to impersonate the immaculate conception of a dunning kruger posterchild.

 

[Moonbeam]

agent00f: The liberal mental defect is it instinctive believes people are good and therefore misled instead of self-interested and perfectly willing to mislead. Would Trump admit to attempts at scamming people any more than his predecessors or the buckshitters?

I do not believe that is the LBD. The problem with liberals is that they share basically only about 2 classes of moral beliefs with conservatives whereas conservatives have quite a few others It is the liberals who fail to see the moral underpinnings of conservative belief that constantly causes them to be broadsided in elections. Conservatives have a larger pallet of moral concerns than liberals do and so does the general public. People carry their moral values in their guts and are motivated by them. Liberals try to win elections completely blind to what the real emotional level issues are. It's pathetic. Liberals use reason to try to explain complicated ideas devoid of moral passion.

One big problem, of course, is that so many of the moral values that magnetize conservatives are the very ones the religious practices they usually follow were designed to cure with that curative part now completely perverted and buried by the original disease they were meant to fix. It's not very healthy to have moral values when those moral values are corrupted. and misapplied.

You believe, mistakenly, in my opinion, that people consciously and intentionally choose to be that way for their own personal advantage. I say it is an unconscious form of self destruction. You are driven to condemn and I to pity them. That doesn't mean I see the dangers they create or that invite being stabbed in the back.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

No, I'm smart enough to read what the data on them says. Like that study you were linked but couldn't make heads or tails of, which was hardly controversial given the ethnocentric fascist message resonated so resoundingly with them.

Of course despite this unimpeachable deficiency in any discernible competence/intellect, you continue to impersonate the immaculate conception of a dunning kruger posterchild.

And you're still the equivalent of a racist moron. Your "racism" simply extends to a different group of people. Thanks for demonstrating that so well in your reply. I knew I could count on you to come through.

Congrats.

 

[jackstar7]

And you're still the equivalent of a racist moron. Your "racism" simply extends to a different group of people. Thanks for demonstrating that so well in your reply. I knew I could count on you to come through.

Congrats.

Against which race is he bigoted? I'm unclear from the previous posts.

 

[Jhhnn]

Against which race is he bigoted? I'm unclear from the previous posts.

TLC is trying to equate Agent00f's derision for Trumpsters with racism.

He overlooks the fact that nobody gets to choose their skin color.

 

[agent00f]

Trump & the Repubs can't deliver economically to the rust belt using Repub ideology. That's why there is a rust belt in the first place.

They'll try to play up stuff like Carrier but the problem is a Helluva lot bigger than that.

Repubs will try to cover those deficiencies pandering to the culture war side of it. It's worked in the past & it may well prevail, sad to say.

They'll accept getting screwed if illegals & other outgroups get screwed harder. President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

Trump is not like Romney or that establishment, who aren't really ethnocentric fascists given the Rubio supporter data. Various forward looking thinkers have warned that the US was ripe for this new to us sort of populist, and turns out they were right. To be specific, he's not so much there for the upper crust as his own cult of personality, and bannon's ethnocentric strat based maintaining power through that belt will get them there. They will win because liberals are too busy navel-gazing.

They see economics as zero sum (which to be fair it often is), so taking it away from blue/minority areas and divvying it themselves is where it's at. That's how it was done back in the day, so make merica great again. Of course if as you mentioned trumps gets his cut that's ok, as long as they get theirs, too.

TLC is trying to equate Agent00f's derision for Trumpsters with racism.

He overlooks the fact that nobody gets to choose their skin color.

I mostly just observe & describe their behavior, typically based on their self-professed ethical guidelines.

Chicken is just a useful idiot for the bannon types.

 

[agent00f]

agent00f: The liberal mental defect is it instinctive believes people are good and therefore misled instead of self-interested and perfectly willing to mislead. Would Trump admit to attempts at scamming people any more than his predecessors or the buckshitters?

I do not believe that is the LBD. The problem with liberals is that they share basically only about 2 classes of moral beliefs with conservatives whereas conservatives have quite a few others It is the liberals who fail to see the moral underpinnings of conservative belief that constantly causes them to be broadsided in elections. Conservatives have a larger pallet of moral concerns than liberals do and so does the general public. People carry their moral values in their guts and are motivated by them. Liberals try to win elections completely blind to what the real emotional level issues are. It's pathetic. Liberals use reason to try to explain complicated ideas devoid of moral passion.

One big problem, of course, is that so many of the moral values that magnetize conservatives are the very ones the religious practices they usually follow were designed to cure with that curative part now completely perverted and buried by the original disease they were meant to fix. It's not very healthy to have moral values when those moral values are corrupted. and misapplied.

Doesn't religion have to promise the supernatural incl. that forever afterlife to dispense authority in this one, or even encourage good behavior? Appears to rather exploit self-interest to me, if a great big kickback is on order. A lot of people sure talk jesus profusely, but for many it certainly looks like a bunch of instinctive rationalization for what sins they just committed; he sure is a forgiving one for allowing them to pollute that good name.

OTOH, compare this to encouraging selfless behavior through nothing but an abstract categorical imperative. The ethnics of this situation seems pretty clear to me.

You believe, mistakenly, in my opinion, that people consciously and intentionally choose to be that way for their own personal advantage. I say it is an unconscious form of self destruction. You are driven to condemn and I to pity them. That doesn't mean I see the dangers they create or that invite being stabbed in the back.

I think living entities use what environment/tools available to them to best survive & flourish. They are where they are both as a group and individually due to what they have done. I'm only judging how they got there and beyond based on their own professed ethics and observable decisions. Maybe if they proclaimed honor in duplicity and what have you, that outlook would be different.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Against which race is he bigoted? I'm unclear from the previous posts.

"Equivalent." You must have missed that part. He takes the behavior of a very few and transposes it to the many, which is the same thing racists idiots do. It's the same thing Trump did when he claimed Mexican were rapists. He's using the very same type of reasoning which means he's arguing on the same level as Trump. I hope he feels awesome about his intellectual level since he seems to believe he's so damn smart.

 

[agent00f]

"Equivalent." You must have missed that part. He takes the behavior of a very few and transposes it to the many, which is the same thing racists idiots do. It's the same thing Trump did when he claimed Mexican were rapists. He's using the very same type of reasoning which means he's arguing on the same level as Trump. I hope he feels awesome about his intellectual level since he seems to believe he's so damn smart.

It's only a very few if you're willfully ignorant of overwhelming empirical data.

 

[jackstar7]

"Equivalent." You must have missed that part. He takes the behavior of a very few and transposes it to the many, which is the same thing racists idiots do. It's the same thing Trump did when he claimed Mexican were rapists. He's using the very same type of reasoning which means he's arguing on the same level as Trump. I hope he feels awesome about his intellectual level since he seems to believe he's so damn smart.

Yeesh.

Yeah, I suppose I overlooked that part. I'm going to say that while prejudice has a limited number of positives, your equating blanket statements about Mexicans to blanket statements about Trump supporters is... at best... ill-advised.

You're digging your own rabbit-hole at that point.