Are we there yet? Anybody still in doubt that a Trump Presidency is a national disaster?

[Pens1566]

Germany recovered from electing an psycopathic asshole, so will the USA

I'd rather not have the country fire-bombed into oblivion for that to occur.

 

[trenchfoot]

Virtually all of the propaganda the GOP cranks out is fear and hate based. All Trump did was take that same formula and cranked up the volume to ear-splitting decibels and added in an overdose of emotion-driven 'roids. He then presented himself as the convincingly contrived answer to all of those convincingly contrived hates and fears that the GOP and he conjured out of thin air.

The Repub base was already primed and conditioned to believe any 'ol well packaged and parfumed bullshit that came out of their Ministry of Propaganda, so all Trump had to do was jack them away from the GOP by using the GOP's own formula for winning the hearts and minds of their willing minions against the GOP itself. All Trump did was hype everything that the GOP was conditioning their followers with by an order of magnitude and voila! The big time snake oil salesman snaked the nutjob base away from the previous owners by making a spectacle of himself and by making unbelievable promises believable. He drew attention to himself and kept it all to himself.

Primary in hand, he went out into the midwest and sold to the folks out there that same 'ol snake oil on 'roids and amazed himself and everyone else by showing the whole nation how easy it was/is to sell a fake cure for the fake illnesses that he convinced those folks they had.

Shake-n-bake, plug-n-play, easy peasy. So easy that Trump himself was amazed at how well that worked.

Watch the Trump formula (stolen and updated from previous devastatingly infamous despots) get played the world over and gain renown.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Virtually all of the propaganda the GOP cranks out is fear and hate based.

Wait...I thought that those campaign phone messages about an immigrant will shoot my kids in the head if I didn't vote for Trump were all PSA"s.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I'd rather not have the country fire-bombed into oblivion for that to occur.

Actually, in response to KMFFJD: The reconstruction of Germany ended in the 1980s, three or four decades after the end of the war.

Historical analog is cheap and easily misapplied, but there are lessons to be learned. One of the biggest farces of political rhetoric is some assumption that you can predict the future, or that if you have A and B, you will get outcome D. Too much multiple causality, too many tongue-in-cheek assumptions.

I did fancy that I'd predicted everything from 911 to the recession on the night of September 10, 2001. That's probably a fluke. I can only say the prospects look bad in the near term. What those prospects are, I can't say.

 

[KMFJD]

I'd rather not have the country fire-bombed into oblivion for that to occur.

All it took was a world war.

No sane person want's that or anything close to that...

 

[KMFJD]

Virtually all of the propaganda the GOP cranks out is fear and hate based. All Trump did was take that same formula and cranked up the volume to ear-splitting decibels and added in an overdose of emotion-driven 'roids. He then presented himself as the convincingly contrived answer to all of those convincingly contrived hates and fears that the GOP and he conjured out of thin air.

The Repub base was already primed and conditioned to believe any 'ol well packaged and parfumed bullshit that came out of their Ministry of Propaganda, so all Trump had to do was jack them away from the GOP by using the GOP's own formula for winning the hearts and minds of their willing minions against the GOP itself. All Trump did was hype everything that the GOP was conditioning their followers with by an order of magnitude and voila! The big time snake oil salesman snaked the nutjob base away from the previous owners by making a spectacle of himself and by making unbelievable promises believable. He drew attention to himself and kept it all to himself.

Primary in hand, he went out into the midwest and sold to the folks out there that same 'ol snake oil on 'roids and amazed himself and everyone else by showing the whole nation how easy it was/is to sell a fake cure for the fake illnesses that he convinced those folks they had.

Shake-n-bake, plug-n-play, easy peasy. So easy that Trump himself was amazed at how well that worked.

Watch the Trump formula (stolen and updated from previous devastatingly infamous despots) get played the world over and gain renown.

They've been at it for a while now in Canada as well headed by Ezra Levant and The Rebel Media, spewing hate, fear, uncertainty and denial while offering no bipartisan solutions...it's all my way or the highway.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Yeah, except Hillary was appealing, she appealed to approximately 2+ million more voters. So I'll repeat my question; why did previous Obama voters find trump more appealing than Hillary and why did they support him despite the fact that their view of him was based on lies?

How many previous Obama voters changed their vote to Trump? Do tell.

My gut would be that many Bernie voters voted for Trump out of spite. A few others voted for Trump simply because they couldn't stand Hillary. My guess would be that most though, or at least many, refused to vote for either one.

And except for the bitter ones, few care that 2+ million more voted for Hillary. If it had been the other way around and Hillary won via the EC you and others on the left in here would be laughing at the tools complaining about the popular vote, claiming they were uneducated idiots that didn't understand the long-established election process in this country.

 

[Jhhnn]

How many previous Obama voters changed their vote to Trump? Do tell.

My gut would be that many Bernie voters voted for Trump out of spite. A few others voted for Trump simply because they couldn't stand Hillary. My guess would be that most though, or at least many, refused to vote for either one.

And except for the bitter ones, few care that 2+ million more voted for Hillary. If it had been the other way around and Hillary won via the EC you and others on the left in here would be laughing at the tools complaining about the popular vote, claiming they were uneducated idiots that didn't understand the long-established election process in this country.

Project often?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Hey, your life. If you want to spend part of it spewing meaningless venom have at it.

Seems like a better avenue than weakly responding to such "meaningless venom," if that's the way you feel.

But I realize that you're merely struggling to come up with a snarky response, even if it is a rather vapid. You seem reasonably intelligent though. Despite your complete failure this time, no doubt you'll do better next time around.

Best of luck to you.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Seems like a better avenue than weakly responding to such "meaningless venom," if that's the way you feel.

But I realize that you're merely struggling to come up with a snarky response, even if it is a rather vapid. You seem reasonably intelligent though. Despite your complete failure this time, no doubt you'll do better next time around.

Best of luck to you.

Finished thumping your chest yet?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Project often?

Yep. In fact I have multiple projects to tackle tomorrow.

 

[shady28]

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If it had been the other way around and Hillary won via the EC you and others on the left in here would be laughing at the tools complaining about the popular vote, claiming they were uneducated idiots that didn't understand the long-established election process in this country.

Nah, he didn't wait for the election results, he made an ass of himself before that - in exactly the way you describe.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Finished thumping your chest yet?

Over what? In case you forgot, or weren't aware, I think Trump sucks balls.

I'm not celebrating a Trump victory, I'm chastising the left over the agony of defeat, which could have and should have been avoided. In case you weren't aware I started a thread in here that predicted a Hillary win, and her loss was the first time I was wrong in @ 50 years. When I started that thread and made the prediction I got a bunch of 'duhs' from the cocky ones on the left who believed Hillary had it all wrapped up and that it was a no-brainer. I warned them that stranger things has happened, as those who were here for the 2004 election were aware, and not to count their chickens just yet.

Well guess what?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Nah, he didn't wait for the election results, he made an ass of himself before that - in exactly the way you describe.

lol. That's some self-ownage right thar, VG. It's coming around to that time for AT ownage of the year awards. You just might be a candidate.

 

[Victorian Gray]

lol. That's some self-ownage right thar, VG. It's coming around to that time for AT ownage of the year awards. You just might be a candidate.

So I thought that Americans were brighter than a whole bunch of them turned out to actually be. Yeah, I'm so fucking owned.

ROFL.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

So I thought that Americans were brighter than a whole bunch of them turned out to actually be. Yeah, I'm so fucking owned.

ROFL.

Another example of the arrogance of the left that I've been talking about.

You just don't seem to know when to STFU and swallow some pride.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yep. In fact I have multiple projects to tackle tomorrow.

I hope it's more productive than your post I quoted. From a realistic POV, it's impossible for Dems to win the EC & lose the popular vote. The EC advantages low population states that the job creators have left in the dust, but the people who live there still believe in job creator ideology for some strange reason & vote accordingly. Trump captured the poor fools' imaginations there & in the rust belt, a place the job creators definitely left as a smear on the windshield of multinational capitalism. What they'll get is just the emotional satisfaction of dragging others down to join them, sad to say.

There's a reason Trump says he loves the uneducated.

 

[IronWing]

Another example of the arrogance of the left that I've been talking about.

You just don't seem to know when to STFU and swallow some pride.

Why? People voted for Trump because they are idiots, plain and simple.

 

[Jhhnn]

Why? People voted for Trump because they are idiots, plain and simple.

Incorrect. They voted for Trump because they were manipulated at an emotional level. It compromised their ability to think rationally. Their pride will keep many from realizing that.

 

[IronWing]

Incorrect. They voted for Trump because they were manipulated at an emotional level. It compromised their ability to think rationally. Their pride will keep many from realizing that.

No, they're idiots. People choose to be manipulated because it is easy. If a person thinks a billionaire with a decades long history of screwing over everybody he deals with is going to improve life for the working class, that person is an idiot.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Why? People voted for Trump because they are idiots, plain and simple.

That may be true, or not. But it doesn't matter. Trump is President and should be accepted as such or else those who rant against him are every bit the morons that ranted against Obama for 8 years about how he was destroying this country. Obama didn't destroy this country and neither will Trump because this country is far, far bigger than whatever schmo we vote in as President.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Another example of the arrogance of the left that I've been talking about.

You just don't seem to know when to STFU and swallow some pride.

It's ok bunky. You got the president that you deserve.

 

[IronWing]

That may be true, or not. But it doesn't matter. Trump is President and should be accepted as such or else those who rant against him are every bit the morons that ranted against Obama for 8 years about how he was destroying this country. Obama didn't destroy this country and neither will Trump because this country is far, far bigger than whatever schmo we vote in as President.

I fully accept the election results and have said so since election night. Trump is still an ass and the people who voted for him are still idiots. That he won changes neither of those opinions.

 

[Sunburn74]

Why? People voted for Trump because they are idiots, plain and simple.

Honestly I'm inclined to agree.

The rationale that went into selecting him would never fly in selecting a candidate for any other job, from something as lowly as a janitor to something as lofty as CEO of a major fortune 500 company. The reality is most companies would NOTselect Donald Trump to be their CEO if a vacancy was present (other CEOs openly mock him!). Most janitorial companies wouldn't select him. He would be disqualified from flipping burgers at McDonald and from being your church pastor. Most people wouldn't trust him to be their baby sitter for a few nights. I literally cannot think of one job other than leader of a white supremacy movement or something alongst those lines, something fringe culty that he would legitimately be the best at.

There is zero argument to be made that the decision to choose him was based on reason and good judgement. Voting for donald trump was a vote by stupidity for stupidity and we are the laughingstock of the world as a consequence. He tells his slack jawed followers the sky is red, bigfoot is real, and russia is our friend and they believe him.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

I hope it's more productive than your post I quoted.

Thanks. It will be. It will be less ponderous and less specious than your post as well.

I fully accept the election results and have said so since election night. Trump is still an ass and the people who voted for him are still idiots. That he won changes neither of those opinions.

I know some people that voted for Trump that have multiple PhDs, are in med school. are lawyers, whatever. I may not agree with them but they aren't idiots by any stretch of the imagination. The people who believe only backwards hillbillies voted for Trump are the real idiots; and they underestimated their competition, so who are the real fools?