Are we there yet? Anybody still in doubt that a Trump Presidency is a national disaster?

[imported_tajmahal]

Just in: Trump details plan to sell the United States to joint ownership of China, Russia, Japan, India, and Saudi Arabia.

"I have enough debt as it is, believe me" - Trump.

As honest a post as all the others claiming that Trump and his supporters are racist, homophobes, antisemitic and deplorable.

 

[Moonbeam]

As to the subject....yes. It's a disaster.

The outcome of this election was a guaranteed disaster. Both candidates sucked.

The losing side simply gets to pretend that the presidency of their sucky candidate would have been better than the sucky candidate that won.

I think you are full of shit on this. We just had 8 years of a black Muslim communist Kenyan and it seems to have gone off fairly well. Are you predicting a Trump-equaled comparison? It doesn't look that way to me because most of the shit dumped on Trump's door seems to be real shit. Honestly, it really isn't looking good to me despite my stupid optimism.

 

[repoman0]

Just guessing..you live in...Portland, Seattle, Denver...or Chicago?

All places I think I would be happy in, particularly Denver, but no, I live in Boston.

Cambridge, specifically, which incidentally voted against Trump over 10:1. No wonder I don't know any Trump supporters.

 

[Moonbeam]

Thank you for that, I don't have the patience for debunking complete lunacy like you showed here.

I too will miss the days when most all the negative garbage about the democrats was fabricated, and believed by brainwashed robots like yourself. Sadly the shit of Trump is going to be real. It's just not fair and the really really sad thing, in my opinion, is that it's you who are going to be caught out in the open without a safe space.

But then the bigger they are ...... and Trump is yuuuuuuuuuge. Hope he doesn't fall on his hands.

 

[buckshot24]

I too will miss the days when most all the negative garbage about the democrats was fabricated, and believed by brainwashed robots like yourself. Sadly the shit of Trump is going to be real. It's just not fair and the really really sad thing, in my opinion, is that it's you who are going to be caught out in the open without a safe space.

But then the bigger they are ...... and Trump is yuuuuuuuuuge. Hope he doesn't fall on his hands.

There has already been a ton of fabricated crap criticism thrown at President-Elect Trump and he's only been elected for 10 days.

 

[Zaap]

I think you are full of shit on this. We just had 8 years of a black Muslim communist Kenyan and it seems to have gone off fairly well. Are you predicting a Trump-equaled comparison? It doesn't look that way to me because most of the shit dumped on Trump's door seems to be real shit. Honestly, it really isn't looking good to me despite my stupid optimism.

You mean we had 8 years of a Democrat who was fairly popular with the American people (despite all your race-baiting horseshit. Irony: your would-be queen bagged on Obama 8 years ago when he dared take her anointed spot) who was able to win under the same rules of the game and pretty much the same electorate....who goes out still very popular...

...and despite all the pluses in her favor (across the board editorial endorcements, media in her pocket, absolute joke of an opponent, her own scandals swept under rugs the media could hardly knit fast enough...)

Your TURD absolute DISASTER candidate STILL lost!

Both choices were shit and absolute disasters... but the Clinton dynasty disaster is the REASON for the elected disaster.

Now live with it.

 

[Jhhnn]

There has already been a ton of fabricated crap criticism thrown at President-Elect Trump and he's only been elected for 10 days.

What, specifically?

 

[Jhhnn]

You mean we had 8 years of a Democrat who was fairly popular with the American people (despite all your race-baiting horseshit. Irony: your would-be queen bagged on Obama 8 years ago when he dared take her anointed spot) who was able to win under the same rules of the game and pretty much the same electorate....who goes out still very popular...

...and despite all the pluses in her favor (across the board editorial endorcements, media in her pocket, absolute joke of an opponent, her own scandals swept under rugs the media could hardly knit fast enough...)

Your TURD absolute DISASTER candidate STILL lost!

Both choices were shit and absolute disasters... but the Clinton dynasty disaster is the REASON for the elected disaster.

Now live with it.

Hillary hate is a debilitating state of mind. No doubt about it.

 

[Commodus]

The popular vote is completely irrelevant and none of that other crap is true. How you feel doesn't equal reality. The voters who were contested over picked Trump. Deal with it.

Sorry, it's documented. It's fact. You can pretend it doesn't exist to help you sleep at night, but that doesn't make it false.

And clearly, you didn't understand why I was bringing up the popular vote. I don't deny that, assuming the electoral college doesn't change things, Trump will have won. I was responding to the lie that a "minority" of people picked Clinton. Well, no -- as is becoming increasingly clear, a larger number of people wanted her over Trump. It's that the electoral college system means that where votes comes from matters more than the actual vote count.

 

[NostaSeronx]

As honest a post as all the others claiming that Trump and his supporters are racist, homophobes, antisemitic and deplorable.

Trump supports and activates the groups that also support racism, xenophobia, Islamophobia and misogyny, etc. His supporters intentionally to unintentionally also support racism, xenophobia, Islamophobia and misogyny, etc. The reason is because Trump is wrapped up in a nice gift christmas/new year gift, "Make America, Great Again." Which happens to be hiding the douche turd sandwich w/ coal within, "Move on her like a bitch, I love Putin he complements me, Grab her right in the pussy, You're fired America."

In my honest opinion the candidates in order who I would have liked aka no protest;
1. Hillary Rodham-Clinton (>51% acceptance)
2. Gary Johnson (~23% acceptance)
3. Evan McMullin (~11% acceptance)
All of the above are all originally Republicans. Which more or less I'm going to call them the "Republocrats" the yugely bestly perfect blend. Even if that blend sort of is weird @ Gary Johnson, primarily.

Line of vague acceptance.. aka would not have voted for them and would probably act 'protestly' if they won:
4. Darrell L. Castle (Constitution / Liberty Republican)
5. Jill Stein (ugh - Green)
6. Gloria La Riva (originally - Commie)
7. Rocky De La Fuente (originally - Democrat)
8. Donald J. Trump (originally - Democrat)

 

[Zaap]

LOL! Where is that stages of denial chart Doc Savage Fan posted?

The leftloons are definitely in the 'Emotional Outburts' phase.

Since many are given to that anyway, I have a feeling this stage will last a long time before they move on to the next stage which was something like blind rage.

 

[agent00f]

He won and I approved his message. How can a Trump supporter not enjoy the lies, the frantic howling and the wealth of tears that his win supply? All this bullshit was out there before his election, he still won. In 2 years there's going to be 12 Democrat Senate seats up for grabs in red states, so there's a good chance the Republicans will take a filibuster proof Senate in 2018 (not that they really need it). You guys need to learn from your mistakes instead of rehashing the same losing bullshit that cost you the election.

Because they'd rather change the rules than change themselves. Changing the rules is easy, changing yourself isn't. As you correctly pointed out they are deluding themselves if they think changing the rules is all they need to do to win. The Democrats had better get it together and learn from their mistakes or they will be doomed to repeat history again if they keep blaming someone else for their failings.

Oh I absolute agree, the democrats need to learn from their lesson of what happens when you save these people from themselves.

I disagree, Liberals can't keep from denigrating conservatives as stupid rather than seeing them as decent moral people who have dysfunctional moral values. This happened because liberals are decent moral folk who have dysfunctional values. Conservative deny their shame and liberals deny their guilt.

Seems to me they already know what they are and rather proud of it. Liberals simply can't understand how that's something to be proud of, which is evidently their downfall.

 

[Jhhnn]

LOL! Where is that stages of denial chart Doc Savage Fan posted?

The leftloons are definitely in the 'Emotional Outburts' phase.

Since many are given to that anyway, I have a feeling this stage will last a long time before they move on to the next stage which was something like blind rage.

Emotional outbursts? You mean your raging Hillary hate?

 

[buckshot24]

Sorry, it's documented. It's fact. You can pretend it doesn't exist to help you sleep at night, but that doesn't make it false.

And clearly, you didn't understand why I was bringing up the popular vote. I don't deny that, assuming the electoral college doesn't change things, Trump will have won. I was responding to the lie that a "minority" of people picked Clinton. Well, no -- as is becoming increasingly clear, a larger number of people wanted her over Trump. It's that the electoral college system means that where votes comes from matters more than the actual vote count.

Minority of the most informed voters voted for Clinton. Nobody cared about California, which is the only reason Clinton got more national votes, nobody tried to earn their vote. And no those aren't facts, you can pretend that your interpretation of the facts is fact but they aren't.

 

[buckshot24]

What, specifically?

The Ford plant outbursts yesterday.

 

[agent00f]

Minority of the most informed voters voted for Clinton. Nobody cared about California, which is the only reason Clinton got more national votes, nobody tried to earn their vote. And no those aren't facts, you can pretend that your interpretation of the facts is fact but they aren't.

It's really too bad the liberal pussies in california won't vote get off this ride.

 

[Commodus]

Minority of the most informed voters voted for Clinton. Nobody cared about California, which is the only reason Clinton got more national votes, nobody tried to earn their vote. And no those aren't facts, you can pretend that your interpretation of the facts is fact but they aren't.

*Intends an indefinite immigration ban on 1.7 billion people based solely on their religion* "This isn't hate."

*Picks a VP who believes in gay conversion therapy and is viciously anti-choice* "This isn't hate."

*Chooses a strategic advisor who runs a news site that peddles hate and bogus conspiracy theories* "This isn't hate."

*Sets policies that white supremacists love, inspires hundreds of hate crimes in his name, does almost nothing to discourage it* "This isn't hate."

And I love how you try to claim I'm willfully misinterpreting things when you're bending over backwards to pretend that Trump got the majority of 'real' votes. "Well, California didn't count..." yes, it damn well did. You do not have any proof to suggest that they were uninformed voters; if you can make that claim, then I can say that Texas and other southern states don't count because Trump didn't have to earn their votes. Of course, you'd reject that, but that's the point -- you don't get to invalidate votes based on where someone lives. Clinton won the popular vote. You don't have to like it, but you do have accept that it's an unquestionable truth.

 

[Jhhnn]

Minority of the most informed voters voted for Clinton. Nobody cared about California, which is the only reason Clinton got more national votes, nobody tried to earn their vote. And no those aren't facts, you can pretend that your interpretation of the facts is fact but they aren't.

Bullshit. Clinton won the popular vote in more states than CA or she wouldn't have any electoral college votes. Trump barely won in WI, MI & PA. Swing those EC votes the other way & Clinton would have won.

 

[agent00f]

*Intends an indefinite immigration ban on 1.7 billion people based solely on their religion* "This isn't hate."

*Picks a VP who believes in gay conversion therapy and is viciously anti-choice* "This isn't hate."

*Chooses a strategic advisor who runs a news site that peddles hate and bogus conspiracy theories* "This isn't hate."

*Sets policies that white supremacists love, inspires hundreds of hate crimes in his name, does almost nothing to discourage it* "This isn't hate."

And I love how you try to claim I'm willfully misinterpreting things when you're bending over backwards to pretend that Trump got the majority of 'real' votes. "Well, California didn't count..." yes, it damn well did. You do not have any proof to suggest that they were uninformed voters; if you can make that claim, then I can say that Texas and other southern states don't count because Trump didn't have to earn their votes. Of course, you'd reject that, but that's the point -- you don't get to invalidate votes based on where someone lives. Clinton won the popular vote. You don't have to like it, but you do have accept that it's an unquestionable truth.

Just a heads up buckshot knows he's being dishonest. Hard as it might be for liberals to understand, he doesn't care.

 

[Jhhnn]

The Ford plant outbursts yesterday.

The truth being that Trump really didn't change anything, right? Or, Job Savior not found.

 

[agent00f]

The truth being that Trump really didn't change anything, right? Or, Job Savior not found.

Ford knows which side their toast is buttered on:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm

 

[Moonbeam]

All places I think I would be happy in, particularly Denver, but no, I live in Boston.

You mean we had 8 years of a Democrat who was fairly popular with the American people (despite all your race-baiting horseshit. Irony: your would-be queen bagged on Obama 8 years ago when he dared take her anointed spot) who was able to win under the same rules of the game and pretty much the same electorate....who goes out still very popular...

...and despite all the pluses in her favor (across the board editorial endorcements, media in her pocket, absolute joke of an opponent, her own scandals swept under rugs the media could hardly knit fast enough...)

Your TURD absolute DISASTER candidate STILL lost!

Both choices were shit and absolute disasters... but the Clinton dynasty disaster is the REASON for the elected disaster.

Now live with it.

Now now, Zaap, you know I love you. Don't be mean to me, I am the reason we have had Obama for President. Back before he announced his candidacy against Clinton I wrote him a letter and told him to run and just when the letter had to have arrived I heard on the radio his announcement. You are most welcome. And as you may know I threatened all the stupid liberals here, stupid because they see conservatives as stupid, that I was going to Grump vote if Clinton won the primary against Sanders because I knew that he was the more likely to beat Trump, a feeling about which I am now absolutely convinced would have come out correct.

So not only do you have everything wrong about me, though I have for moral reasons to vote the lesser possible evil in the final election, I did not really want either of them. But I have such good sense as to be able to tell you that Clinton would have been a lot better than Trump as I am pretty sure we are going to all suspect in the not so distant future.

But no matter how you cut it, you can't blame those who nominated Clinton anymore OR LESS than you can blame those who nominated Trump. Both Liberals and Conservatives hate themselves, don't know it, don't want to know it, and don't want to know they don't want to know, and therefore mechanically and automatically operate under an unconscious death wish. You may blame the fact that you and everybody you know hates themselves for who we have as President, but to do so you will have to attribute guilt to a sleeping machine. There is only love, Zapp, to which there is any rationality. Get some so I don't have to grab you by the back of the neck to keep you from thrashing about in rage.

 

[Vic]

As to the subject....yes. It's a disaster.

The outcome of this election was a guaranteed disaster. Both candidates sucked.

The losing side simply gets to pretend that the presidency of their sucky candidate would have been better than the sucky candidate that won.

Yep. The only certain outcome of this election was that whoever won would be extremely unpopular. It was a race to the bottom. And here we are.

 

[agent00f]

Now now, Zaap, you know I love you. Don't be mean to me, I am the reason we have had Obama for President. Back before he announced his candidacy against Clinton I wrote him a letter and told him to run and just when the letter had to have arrived I heard on the radio his announcement. You are most welcome. And as you may know I threatened all the stupid liberals here, stupid because they see conservatives as stupid, that I was going to Grump vote if Clinton won the primary against Sanders because I knew that he was the more likely to beat Trump, a feeling about which I am now absolutely convinced would have come out correct.

So not only do you have everything wrong about me, though I have for moral reasons to vote the lesser possible evil in the final election, I did not really want either of them. But I have such good sense as to be able to tell you that Clinton would have been a lot better than Trump as I am pretty sure we are going to all suspect in the not so distant future.

But no matter how you cut it, you can't blame those who nominated Clinton anymore OR LESS than you can blame those who nominated Trump. Both Liberals and Conservatives hate themselves, don't know it, don't want to know it, and don't want to know they don't want to know, and therefore mechanically and automatically operate under an unconscious death wish. You may blame the fact that you and everybody you know hates themselves for who we have as President, but to do so you will have to attribute guilt to a sleeping machine. There is only love, Zapp, to which there is any rationality. Get some so I don't have to grab you by the back of the neck to keep you from thrashing about in rage.

You seem to have a martyr complex. That didn't work out so well for jesus, in all likelihood.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yep. The only certain outcome of this election was that whoever won would be extremely unpopular. It was a race to the bottom. And here we are.

Popularity & policy aren't the same thing. The latter is where Trump promises to be a disaster.