Are we there yet? Anybody still in doubt that a Trump Presidency is a national disaster?

[disappoint]

Just a point of clarity if I may..... If Republicans are all about self reliance, why did all the losers vote for Trump to save them from their state of economic despair? Why weren't they too busy to vote running their businesses? And have you seen the tax code. Billions of pages of lobbyist generated exemptions for Republican one percenters? I mean at least the Democrats have the great good sense only to pretend to help the poor, right?

Clarity? Clarity? Your beliefs wouldn't be cloudier if you stuck your mind in a murky swamp. Ordinarily I wouldn't, but you seem like a such a nice fellow, and I'd be remiss if I didn't help you get some real clarity by clearing up some of these erroneous notions your own mind led you to believe to protect your ego from the unpleasant realization that you're sometimes mistaken. Hey don't despair I have the same flaws, it's nothing to worry about.

M: If Republicans are all about self reliance, why did all the losers vote for Trump to save them from their state of economic despair?
D: What makes you think their economic well being is what drove them to vote for Trump? For all we know they might even realize that it isn't up to the POTUS to fix their economic situation as much as it is up to them.

M: Why weren't they too busy to vote running their businesses?
D: What kind of business did you think they would be in that they can't find time to vote? The porn business? Handcuffed to some apparatus and left there all election day? That's just cruel!

M: And have you seen the tax code. Billions of pages of lobbyist generated exemptions for Republican one percenters?
D: Republicans are the only one percenters? Surely you don't believe that! Democrats had no hand in the tax code? Couldn't change it when they were in power? Were they handcuffed too? How many people are on that crazy porn set?

M: I mean at least the Democrats have the great good sense only to pretend to help the poor, right?
D: If by good sense you mean dishonesty, then yes, and by Democrat voters you mean easily duped into believing the lies, I'd agree.

 

[agent00f]

Well, that was the exception that confirmed the rule, and also that the banks grip over the government is extremely tight, not that it was different here in Europe where thousands billions of fiat money were also issued to rescue the banksters.

What people do not understand is that we were all collectively forced to loan money to thoses financial gansters, it s our future incomes that were mortgaged for their benefit, but you cant explain this to people as they wouldnt understand, and indeed the power of the oligarchies comes straight out from the peoples ignorance.

Btw I appended to my post above. The situation was somewhat more complex than that, and it's little known that the US actually handled it quite respectably given the circumstance. The FDIC did handle BK of many smaller banks, and most of the larger ones were never really at risk of complete collapse anyway.

The US treasury/Paulson actually handled that situation rather forcefully towards those banks, or at least far better than their european counterparts: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...-reveal-banks-were-forced-surrender-ownership

 

[agent00f]

Clarity? Clarity? Your beliefs wouldn't be cloudier if you stuck your mind in a murky swamp. Ordinarily I wouldn't, but you seem like a such a nice fellow, and I'd be remiss if I didn't help you get some real clarity by clearing up some of these erroneous notions your own mind led you to believe to protect your ego from the unpleasant realization that you're sometimes mistaken. Hey don't despair I have the same flaws, it's nothing to worry about.

M: If Republicans are all about self reliance, why did all the losers vote for Trump to save them from their state of economic despair?
D: What makes you think their economic well being is what drove them to vote for Trump? For all we know they might even realize that it isn't up to the POTUS to fix their economic situation as much as it is up to them.

M: Why weren't they too busy to vote running their businesses?
D: What kind of business did you think they would be in that they can't find time to vote? The porn business? Handcuffed to some apparatus and left there all election day? That's just cruel!

M: And have you seen the tax code. Billions of pages of lobbyist generated exemptions for Republican one percenters?
D: Republicans are the only one percenters? Surely you don't believe that! Democrats had no hand in the tax code? Couldn't change it when they were in power? Were they handcuffed too? How many people are on that crazy porn set?

M: I mean at least the Democrats have the great good sense only to pretend to help the poor, right?
D: If by good sense you mean dishonesty, then yes, and by Democrat voters you mean easily duped into believing the lies, I'd agree.

It's curious what life experiences has led you to believe you're the smart one despite predictably regurgitating gop PR.

 

[WelshBloke]

So I can get 6:1 on him successfully being impeached before 2020.
Hmmm, I might phone up to get a price on him expiring before 2020, although with his age and unpopularity I'm not holding out much hope for much better odds on that.

 

[disappoint]

It's curious what life experiences has led you to believe you're the smart one despite predictably regurgitating gop PR.

While a full answer would fill several volumes of books that would be as non-fictional as the ones I've read, the short answer is posters like you that are unable to refute what I wrote despite multiple failed attempts to do so while believing you did.

 

[Abwx]

Btw I appended to my post above. The situation was somewhat more complex than that, and it's little known that the US actually handled it quite respectably given the circumstance. The FDIC did handle BK of many smaller banks, and most of the larger ones were never really at risk of complete collapse anyway.

The US treasury/Paulson actually handled that situation rather forcefully towards those banks, or at least far better than their european counterparts: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...-reveal-banks-were-forced-surrender-ownership

It was actually the same as in Europe, they paid interests for the borrowed money but they also got unlimited garantee from the governments meaning that the govs were the ultimate debtors should the banks default their engagements,.

I know no bank that loan me money while accepting the risks of my eventual defaults, that s total non sense and the price they paid for this service was more symbolic than anything else given the extent of the help provided by the governments.

A single bank like our BNP/Paribas had 50 000 bns $ engaged in the derivative markets, so the few bns interests were actually zero in respect of the risks that were defaulted on the governments....

 

[werepossum]

Try adding a few more insults to your vocabulary like Bernie Bros and deplorables and you too can someday run for president under the Democratic ticket but be sure to burn your copy of How to Win Friends and Influence People lest you give up on that winning strategy.

The power of government is nothing in comparison to the power of Christ which compels you to believe that God would really prefer you to misspell his name before he gets extremely angry enough to become a psychopath and send cancer or locusts after you werep-ssum. One question though: Do you share God's deranged anger issues and would you have flown off the handle had I typed that 'o' in your name?

That's a habit I long ago picked up on Jewish religion message boards. To my shame, I have to admit that as much as from habit, I keep it because it causes frothy rage among proggies and that amuses me. I do like werep-ssum though, and I feel sure that God will approve.

 

[werepossum]

No need for dishonesty from me. Both sides are bad isn't agitprop, it's a fact. They are bad in different ways. If you don't see that, you have blinders on that the media gave you and you decided to wear like a badge of honor.

This, exactly. Which is why I typically vote Libertarian. I have issues with them also, but at least there's little chance they will end up in power.

My beliefs are so spread across the gamut that if there was a political party with the same beliefs, I wouldn't believe they were being honest.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

This, exactly. Which is why I typically vote Libertarian. I have issues with them also, but at least there's little chance they will end up in power.

My beliefs are so spread across the gamut that if there was a political party with the same beliefs, I wouldn't believe they were being honest.

Yep. I've never agreed with anyone all the time on everything in politics. If someone always agreed with me i'd think i was being conned.

 

[werepossum]

It seems clear that govt is necessary in more ways than you're willing to admit, being in an emotional snit & all.

It also seems clear that a Trump admin will be GWB 2.0 on steroids & meth. One more aspect of it all-

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-deregulation-privatized-social-security.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/opinion/the-medicare-killers.html?action=click&contentCollection=opinion&module=NextInCollection&region=Footer&pgtype=article&version=column&rref=collection/column/paul-krugman

And another-

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/20...lection=Opinion&pgtype=Blogs&region=Body&_r=0

I thought Trump voters were tired of the guys at the top getting all the gravy...

I'll forgo pointing out that two of your three links are Krugman opinion pieces and simply say that I think Trump voters are tired of people in other nations getting all the gravy, or at least, the portion they used to get.

I really have no idea why they expect Trump to change things, other than both parties hate him.

 

[dank69]

Not charismatic? She's one molecule of evidence away from being a felon who can't keep 2 email accounts straight which any 12 year old would have no trouble with that convinced the majority of a nation to trust her not to run the nation into the ground. She caused Sportage and a handful of other ATOT denizens to have an emotional breakdown over her losing the election. She caused protesters to put their freedom in jeopardy by rioting and looting, Granted you emotional basketcases aren't the brightest bulbs in the drawer nor the sharpest knives in the light socket but we can't all be schooling Stephen Hawking on the subject of dark matter now can we?

Keep searching for that fucking molecule. 30+ years of intense scrutiny yet nobody has been able to find it. Doesn't even register for you though, you are certain it exists.

 

[werepossum]

Yep. I've never agreed with anyone all the time on everything in politics. If someone always agreed with me i'd think i was being conned.

Neil Boortz says something brilliant whenever people tell him they agree with everything he says: "I certainly hope you don't agree with everything I say, because if two people agree on everything then one of them is redundant."

 

[disappoint]

That's a habit I long ago picked up on Jewish religion message boards. To my shame, I have to admit that as much as from habit, I keep it because it causes frothy rage among proggies and that amuses me. I do like werep-ssum though, and I feel sure that God will approve.

I always wondered why they did that and now thanks to you I've a glimpse into the possible explanation. Possibly there was once one guy that was a bit unstable in the membrane who flew into panic, rage or one followed by the other every time someone spelled God correctly and everyone started omitting the 'o' just to appease him so he doesn't take a swan dive off the nearest cliff. Henceforth everyone just does it out of habit like you even though none of them believe God would be so irrational as to hate the letter 'o' in the label people made up for him.

 

[dank69]

Clarity? Clarity? Your beliefs wouldn't be cloudier if you stuck your mind in a murky swamp. Ordinarily I wouldn't, but you seem like a such a nice fellow, and I'd be remiss if I didn't help you get some real clarity by clearing up some of these erroneous notions your own mind led you to believe to protect your ego from the unpleasant realization that you're sometimes mistaken. Hey don't despair I have the same flaws, it's nothing to worry about.

M: If Republicans are all about self reliance, why did all the losers vote for Trump to save them from their state of economic despair?
D: What makes you think their economic well being is what drove them to vote for Trump? For all we know they might even realize that it isn't up to the POTUS to fix their economic situation as much as it is up to them.

M: Why weren't they too busy to vote running their businesses?
D: What kind of business did you think they would be in that they can't find time to vote? The porn business? Handcuffed to some apparatus and left there all election day? That's just cruel!

M: And have you seen the tax code. Billions of pages of lobbyist generated exemptions for Republican one percenters?
D: Republicans are the only one percenters? Surely you don't believe that! Democrats had no hand in the tax code? Couldn't change it when they were in power? Were they handcuffed too? How many people are on that crazy porn set?

M: I mean at least the Democrats have the great good sense only to pretend to help the poor, right?
D: If by good sense you mean dishonesty, then yes, and by Democrat voters you mean easily duped into believing the lies, I'd agree.

Just one example of Democrats trying to close loopholes and being blocked by Republicans:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th...ns?overview=closed&q={"roll-call-vote":"all"}

While a full answer would fill several volumes of books that would be as non-fictional as the ones I've read, the short answer is posters like you that are unable to refute what I wrote despite multiple failed attempts to do so while believing you did.

So you were saying?

 

[dank69]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/03/24/sanders-budget-amendment-fails/70383870/

Another example.

 

[disappoint]

Keep searching for that fucking molecule. 30+ years of intense scrutiny yet nobody has been able to find it. Doesn't even register for you though, you are certain it exists.

Au contraire mon frere, I know for certain it doesn't exist which is why I'm not searching for it. The Clinton camp is nothing if not thorough in destroying evidence. Why else do you think they erased all of those emails and smashed cellphones with hammers? There were spiders on the cellphone screens and they thought they were real?

 

[dank69]

https://www.bostonglobe.com/busines...ng-overseas/F3nppahkjKqPJ6ZfRAvyRL/story.html

Another

 

[dank69]

Au contraire mon frere, I know for certain it doesn't exist which is why I'm not searching for it. The Clinton camp is nothing if not thorough in destroying evidence. Why else do you think they erased all of those emails and smashed cellphones with hammers? There were spiders on the cellphone screens and they thought they were real?

Yep, the Clinton camp can even see the future apparently:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...mails-after-getting-a-subpoena-from-congress/

As for destroying phones:
https://www.wired.com/2016/09/actually-clinton-destroyed-phones-better/

Literally a few minutes and you could have cleaned some of the shit out of your skull so I don't have to.

 

[disappoint]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/03/24/sanders-budget-amendment-fails/70383870/

Another example...

So you were saying?

Yes, yes the Republicans blocked Sanders' proposal. You know who else blocked Sanders? The DNC.

I was saying both sides are bad thanks for helping me make my point.

 

[dank69]

Yes, yes the Republicans blocked Sanders' proposal. You know who else blocked Sanders? The DNC.

I was saying both sides are bad thanks for helping me make my point.

Oh, you want to continue digging? Okay:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/bern...on-conspiracy-theory-is-embarrassing-garbage/

30 more seconds to take another bag of trash out.

Hey, did you know that the Sanders campaign stole data from Hillary Clinton?

 

[werepossum]

I always wondered why they did that and now thanks to you I've a glimpse into the possible explanation. Possibly there was once one guy that was a bit unstable in the membrane who flew into panic, rage or one followed by the other every time someone spelled God correctly and everyone started omitting the 'o' just to appease him so he doesn't take a swan dive off the nearest cliff. Henceforth everyone just does it out of habit like you even though none of them believe God would be so irrational as to hate the letter 'o' in the label people made up for him.

It's actually an ancient Hebrew prescription that far antedates our word "God". Honestly I have no idea why it survived with the name change. But as a visitor, I wanted to show respect, so . . .

 

[Sonikku]

https://s3.amazonaws.com/arc-washpo...016/10/20021552/Trump_FactCheck_33KEmails.jpg

That has to be one of the nicest artist renditions of Trump I've ever seen.

 

[werepossum]

Yep, the Clinton camp can even see the future apparently:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...mails-after-getting-a-subpoena-from-congress/

As for destroying phones:
https://www.wired.com/2016/09/actually-clinton-destroyed-phones-better/

Literally a few minutes and you could have cleaned some of the shit out of your skull so I don't have to.

Dude, those are hilarious. Your first link is making the "point" that it's okay to destroy material under subpoena as long as your request to destroy predates the subpoena. That ain't how the law works. Well, not for us 99%ers anyway.

Your second link makes the "point" that Hillary's phones would have been destroyed anyway. That's akin to claiming that one's client did not commit robbery because the victim would have eventually spent that money anyway.

 

[disappoint]

It's actually an ancient Hebrew prescription that far antedates our word "God". Honestly I have no idea why it survived with the name change. But as a visitor, I wanted to show respect, so . . .

Oh I don't blame you. I completely understand not wanting to make waves in that situation.

 

[werepossum]

https://s3.amazonaws.com/arc-washpo...016/10/20021552/Trump_FactCheck_33KEmails.jpg

That has to be one of the nicest artist renditions of Trump I've ever seen.

Agreed. He looks so calm and reasonable.

Clearly that artist needs to be taking commissions for fantasy and sci fi, since she/he is so talented at drawing things no one has ever seen.