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Righties got all twisted over Obama because they feared a lot of things that didn't happen, things that no rational person would have feared anyway. Nuttiness ran wild. We entered the post-truth era of journalism where supposition & innuendo are treated as fact, where the more outrageous the lie the more clicks it gets & the more ad revenue is received. Breitbart led the charge.
And when the same thing happens under Trump with the left acting like reactionary idiots you'll admit your faux pas?

Of course you won't, just like the righties. Instead you will posit some BS instead, just like the righties do. It's what both sides do. It's also why the left lost this election.
 

agent00f

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And when the same thing happens under Trump with the left acting like reactionary idiots you'll admit your faux pas?

Of course you won't, just like the righties. Instead you will posit some BS instead, just like the righties do. It's what both sides do. It's also why the left lost this election.

You don't seem much brighter than Ajay for the same reasons.
 

Puffnstuff

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He should make Sarah Palin the Federal Director of Moose Hunting so his administration can say they elevated a female to a position of power.:eek::p:D
 

Puffnstuff

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SNL will certainly not have to worry about running out of material to use for their skits with this administration.
 

compuwiz1

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If anyone doesn't think Trump can build the wall, he probably can, just from all the bricks the liberals are shitting. :D
 
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Jhhnn

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And when the same thing happens under Trump with the left acting like reactionary idiots you'll admit your faux pas?

Of course you won't, just like the righties. Instead you will posit some BS instead, just like the righties do. It's what both sides do. It's also why the left lost this election.

Heh. It seems unlikely that gun sales will soar or that "sources" will be raving about the "layers" in Trump's birth cert. Don't expect any raving about a Mexican invasion or sekrit mooslims, either.
 

Puffnstuff

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Look at all of Trump's post election news as he is doing the very thing he swore he wouldn't do with his businesses. I wish Ross Perot were available to comment on the sucking sound that will be your blue collar jobs leaving the country during his administration.
 

Jhhnn

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Look at all of Trump's post election news as he is doing the very thing he swore he wouldn't do with his businesses. I wish Ross Perot were available to comment on the sucking sound that will be your blue collar jobs leaving the country during his administration.

Working people voting Republican is a lot like battered spouse syndrome.
 
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Roflmouth

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Sorry you got punk'd with "both sides equally bad". As mentioned these people who parroted that are hardly bright, but OTOH they've got you to feel good about themselves.



^ Anyone still arguing this isn't a victory for white supremacy?

Called any other black people "darkies" recently, racist?
 

emperus

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This is the first time I've not voted for the top of the ticket. I didn't say both side were equally bad. I like the way the D's are going - I thought the excessive fixation of identity politics was missing the point. I said both candidates were both below my standards for president - for the first time in 30 years (it's been real close b/4 - but I had less info than I can access today). With Clinton, you can't raise a $1B with allot of Billionaire's help and then vote against them. Didn't want a reality TV star for president either. The amazing thing about talking to partisan, is that it becomes weird. You think I'm parroting some view - like I wasn't able to come to my viewpoint on my own - or that I haven't been moving this way for the past 12 years. That's just a pretty arrogant position that you hold. You don't know me, and yet you accuse me - this has happened to me from those on the left and the right - it's sad. This isn't the politics of substance - this sort of thing is the politics of some self possessed mob. Will those of your ilk ever learn?

Anyway, this is why I usually stay away from P&N on ATF - someone will claim I'm am a moron based on a few posts. Way to go man ;)

It's tough reading your posts. So tell me what point the "excessive fixation on identity politics" was missing. It's tough to listen to a rational person claim Trump and Hilary were equally bad. Just look at this transition process we are beholding.
 

Roflmouth

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It's tough reading your posts. So tell me what point the "excessive fixation on identity politics" was missing. It's tough to listen to a rational person claim Trump and Hilary were equally bad.

No doubt, Hilary was far worse, hence her losing the election. Thanks for helping me point that out.

Just look at this transition process we are beholding.

True, the way Trump is naming more cabinet posts than Obama did in the same time period must be devastating.
 

agent00f

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Called any other black people "darkies" recently, racist?

I see that journey to acquire more brain cells to figure out how caricature works hasn't worked out for you. OTOH it's for the best you can't be of more benefit to the white power movement.
 

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This is the first time I've not voted for the top of the ticket. I didn't say both side were equally bad. I like the way the D's are going - I thought the excessive fixation of identity politics was missing the point. I said both candidates were both below my standards for president - for the first time in 30 years (it's been real close b/4 - but I had less info than I can access today). With Clinton, you can't raise a $1B with allot of Billionaire's help and then vote against them. Didn't want a reality TV star for president either. The amazing thing about talking to partisan, is that it becomes weird. You think I'm parroting some view - like I wasn't able to come to my viewpoint on my own - or that I haven't been moving this way for the past 12 years. That's just a pretty arrogant position that you hold. You don't know me, and yet you accuse me - this has happened to me from those on the left and the right - it's sad. This isn't the politics of substance - this sort of thing is the politics of some self possessed mob. Will those of your ilk ever learn?

Anyway, this is why I usually stay away from P&N on ATF - someone will claim I'm am a moron based on a few posts. Way to go man ;)
Well said. I'm more from the right, but experienced the same dilema. Both candidates were too bad to earn my vote, yet neither was so bad as to force me to vote for the other.

If anyone doesn't think Trump can build the wall, he probably can, just from all the bricks the liberals are shitting. :D
LMAO!

If he can convince them to protest along the border, the wall will practically build itself.

It's tough reading your posts. So tell me what point the "excessive fixation on identity politics" was missing. It's tough to listen to a rational person claim Trump and Hilary were equally bad. Just look at this transition process we are beholding.
That whooshing sound - no, that was way too far over your head for you to hear it.

His point was not that both were equally bad. His point was that neither was good enough. Take a course in logic.

No doubt, Hilary was far worse, hence her losing the election. Thanks for helping me point that out.

True, the way Trump is naming more cabinet posts than Obama did in the same time period must be devastating.
lol +1
 
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I see that journey to acquire more brain cells to figure out how caricature works hasn't worked out for you.

"Caricature" has nothing to do with you repeatedly referring to blacks as "darkies," racist. But keep making excuses ;)
 

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His point was not that both were equally bad. His point was that neither was good enough. Take a course in logic.

Our system is binary, it is not weighted. If you choose neither 1 nor 0 you have effectively declared them equal.
 

Ajay

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Man, one cannot make this stuff up. You guys are just too funny. Y'all have your talking points memorized and fit other's comments into to those whether or not they are appropriate. I feel like I just dropped in to a junior high debate team - ad hominem attacks - lolz. XD!
 
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It's tough reading your posts. So tell me what point the "excessive fixation on identity politics" was missing. It's tough to listen to a rational person claim Trump and Hilary were equally bad. Just look at this transition process we are beholding.
Hey, how are you doing? Holding up ok?

Transition process isn't going any worse than any other recent president.
 

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Working people voting Republican is a lot like battered spouse syndrome.
Get out of your bubble. I've not encountered a bigger partisan hack, online, than you. If you quit demonizing and tried to actually understand a different point of view you might better yourself.
 

Ajay

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Our system is binary, it is not weighted. If you choose neither 1 nor 0 you have effectively declared them equal.
False. It is effectively a two party system, but not a binary decision . There are three logical outputs a, b and neither a nor b. Literally, if one looks at the ballot, there are three choices to be made - that is absolutely not binary.
 
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Well said. I'm more from the right, but experienced the same dilema. Both candidates were too bad to earn my vote, yet neither was so bad as to force me to vote for the other.


LMAO!

If he can convince them to protest along the border, the wall will practically build itself.


That whooshing sound - no, that was way too far over your head for you to hear it.

His point was not that both were equally bad. His point was that neither was good enough. Take a course in logic.


lol +1

That is a foolish argument. Maybe you can deconstruct his logic for yourself. If neither was good enough then both were equally bad not to secure his vote, seeing he didn't vote right?