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are the asian kids in your school smart?

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Originally posted by: timosyy
Pretty much, but my observations are pretty skewed, living in Northern Virginia. Most of the asians I know go to TJ (Thomas Jefferson High School for Science & Technology), which is ranked #1 in the nation I believe.

Its pretty brutal when the asian parents start comparing their kids...
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Oh god..
 
In my hs we have like 5 asians out of 600 and one is fairly smart, three work there asses off, and one is a major pothead.
 
Originally posted by: RKS
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: steppinthrax
There are some quite big cultural differences between ?Asian? peoples and many Americans.

1. Asians are taught from the very beginning as children that education is very important and you can?t get far without it. Their elementary school is like our Middle and their middle is like our High.
2. In the United States a typical average adolescent male is more concerned with who is on his AIM list, MySpace, American Idol and a his personal sexual encounters rather then his studies and future (these are secondary). The belief is those teen years are supposed to be all about experiencing life. This translates to do what?s fun. Not what?s beneficial? The typical adolescent female has similar mindset.
3. A High School drop out who owns the new dodge charger has a higher chance of getting laid then the young biologist working on the cure for HIV. This just propagates the ?brain drain? we have in this country.

I could go on??
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School systems are fundamentally different. In many Asian countries, you decide what you want to do while in high school. In the US, that is not the case. Education is still more general and less specialized until college.

I think that a lot of the values that Asians instill in their kids is excellent, but some of it is actually detrimental to the development of the child and the growth of the community as a whole. In their home countries perhaps you must be a doctor or engineer to survive. However, that doesn't translate well into the US. Leadership takes you much farther than that engineer or doctor degree.
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exactly, I mean who wants to make 6 figures by working in a professional environment when you can lead an entire crew through lunch and dinner service. That's a lot more satisfying than a stupid piece paper from a silly college.
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I don't think that you understand what I'm saying. Being just an engineer or a doctor isn't as great as an engineer or doctor that leads.

The educational cultures (I am Indian which is similar in respect to education) of our parents do not match the educational environment of the United States.
 
Back when I was in school, all 5 of the Asian kids were "top of the class" smart ... of course thats the reason they were there in the first place so that shouldn't come as any surprise.

I've known plenty of Asians who were no smarter then anyone else you'll meet.
 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: RKS
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: steppinthrax
There are some quite big cultural differences between ?Asian? peoples and many Americans.

1. Asians are taught from the very beginning as children that education is very important and you can?t get far without it. Their elementary school is like our Middle and their middle is like our High.
2. In the United States a typical average adolescent male is more concerned with who is on his AIM list, MySpace, American Idol and a his personal sexual encounters rather then his studies and future (these are secondary). The belief is those teen years are supposed to be all about experiencing life. This translates to do what?s fun. Not what?s beneficial? The typical adolescent female has similar mindset.
3. A High School drop out who owns the new dodge charger has a higher chance of getting laid then the young biologist working on the cure for HIV. This just propagates the ?brain drain? we have in this country.

I could go on??
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School systems are fundamentally different. In many Asian countries, you decide what you want to do while in high school. In the US, that is not the case. Education is still more general and less specialized until college.

I think that a lot of the values that Asians instill in their kids is excellent, but some of it is actually detrimental to the development of the child and the growth of the community as a whole. In their home countries perhaps you must be a doctor or engineer to survive. However, that doesn't translate well into the US. Leadership takes you much farther than that engineer or doctor degree.
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exactly, I mean who wants to make 6 figures by working in a professional environment when you can lead an entire crew through lunch and dinner service. That's a lot more satisfying than a stupid piece paper from a silly college.
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I don't think that you understand what I'm saying. Being just an engineer or a doctor isn't as great as an engineer or doctor that leads.

The educational cultures (I am Indian which is similar in respect to education) of our parents do not match the educational environment of the United States.
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i agree with this. plus, who the fuck thinks they can lead ppl effectively without understanding the people they're trying to lead. i feel the previous answer of "Leadership takes you much farther than that engineer or doctor degree" is meant to be some cheap way out. only few ppl can lead and often, these leaders are people who were doctors or engineers previously.

"that's a lot more satisfying than a stupid piece of paper from a silly college" is a ridiculous statement
 
Only reason asian kids have gotten the stereotype of being smart is because they tend to have parents that push them really hard to succeed in class. Yes the asian kids in my classes got better grades that the others on average but then the few white kids who did just as well weren't any smarter they just knew how to fucking study and devote a little time to learning. Seriously the average white kid in my HS though the idea of studying like an hour a night for school to be a concept from some alien planet. Those few who did, did just as well as any of the asian kids.
 
i'm asian
i'm smart (around a 4.2 gpa)
i have friends who are girls and aren't fugly
i don't study much (probably study around 30 minutes before a test and do around 1-2 hours of homework)
i go out with friends a lot (always need a ride though since my parents wouldn't let me get my license until a month ago - still getting my permit)
i'm not on the math team, chess team, chemistry club, etc.
i go to one of the best high schools in the west coast

there's a big difference between smart asians and nerdy, antisocial, smart ones
I have to say though that there are a lot of under-a-rock-studying asians though
 
Originally posted by: MrWizzard
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
they're the ones that everyone cheats off of, straight A's in class (esp math).
they're on the math team, chess team, debate team, etc.

but, they weren't the most social, not on any of the sports teams, and not popular with the girls.

was that your typical asian kid in hs?
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I went to HS that had a huge Asian population. I would say 70%. They had perfected the art of cheating they had some really amazing methods. Then there where one ones that were total stoners so it kinda just averaged them out. Most of them where exchange students from Asia though so they went back when the year was over and another group would come the next year.
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funny thing you say. I once knew a Korean guy who told me about some pretty complex and stealthy methods he and his classmates would use to cheat. It WAS an art form.
 
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
Originally posted by: MrWizzard
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
they're the ones that everyone cheats off of, straight A's in class (esp math).
they're on the math team, chess team, debate team, etc.

but, they weren't the most social, not on any of the sports teams, and not popular with the girls.

was that your typical asian kid in hs?
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I went to HS that had a huge Asian population. I would say 70%. They had perfected the art of cheating they had some really amazing methods. Then there where one ones that were total stoners so it kinda just averaged them out. Most of them where exchange students from Asia though so they went back when the year was over and another group would come the next year.
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funny thing you say. I once knew a Korean guy who told me about some pretty complex and stealthy methods he and his classmates would use to cheat. It WAS an art form.
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well the difference is that many of them really dont need to. else you don't get high scores in tests you can't cheat, like sats and such. its the difference in saving time vs covering the fact that ur a tard lol🙂 cheating of course is pretty wide spread anywhere, its just a matter if ur stupid enough to get caught😛 higher level math/essay tests you really can't cheat. a few notes really don't count for much if you dont understand the fundamentals.
 
Some of them are smart, some of them are not. I go to UCI though, like 70% of the student body is Asian.

And I'm a grad student, so I teach the undergrads and tend to see them at 90% retards. Sometimes it's hard to take a step back and realize that they're new to the subject... or maybe they're just not good at physics... or whatever
 
I would say in my classes they were generally not the smartest, but they often got really good grades because they worked so hard. for example if you looked at the top 5 GPAs 3/5 would be asian, but only one of the top 10 SATs were all white people. The highest SAT any asian got from my high school was 1520, and I had a 3.5 GPA (like 70/150 class rank) and got a 1530, and we had 5 white people get either a 1590 or 1580 (no 1600s though and the all girls school had 2 1600s my year, that was embaressing 🙁).

EDIT: and why thats embaressing is I went to an all guys school and so its kidna sad that we didn't have any 1600s and the chicks had 2. Even worse that we had 150 in our graduating class and they only have 100.
 
Is the sun bright? I think some of this is genetics, but at least as much is that their parents aren't deadbeat sh*ts and they won't tolerate mediocrity from their kids.
 
Originally posted by: sirjonk
last week on My Name is Earl his wife demands of the Indian doctor "we want a jewish doctor" and he says "Indians are the new jews". I lold.
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true .. as ethnic groups, indians make more $$$$ than any other group in USA now ...

only smart ones end up here and the smartness stays for atleast a generation .. once they are americanised they become umm.. normal ... so give credit to the US Visa process ... the guy at the US consulate who rejects visa to the asian dumbtards who dont show up here ... the filtering process what makes the asian who end up here smarter ...
 
Originally posted by: BrownTown
I would say in my classes they were generally not the smartest, but they often got really good grades because they worked so hard. for example if you looked at the top 5 GPAs 3/5 would be asian, but only one of the top 10 SATs were all white people. The highest SAT any asian got from my high school was 1520, and I had a 3.5 GPA (like 70/150 class rank) and got a 1530, and we had 5 white people get either a 1590 or 1580 (no 1600s though and the all girls school had 2 1600s my year, that was embaressing 🙁).
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lol you're retarded. SAT isn't a very good indicator of anything... And if you're within like 100- 200 points of another, you're pretty much within the same "aptitude"
 
Originally posted by: timosyy
Pretty much, but my observations are pretty skewed, living in Northern Virginia. Most of the asians I know go to TJ (Thomas Jefferson High School for Science & Technology), which is ranked #1 in the nation I believe.

Its pretty brutal when the asian parents start comparing their kids...
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Parents comparing their kids to other kids is NOTHING. That usually ends with 'that kids sucks for this and that reason, do I win'. No, it's when they pick up a newspaper and read about the genius in Hong Kong who graduated college at age 10 or ranked super high, that's when the nightmare begins😉.
 
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