Are any Celeron 1037U Motherboards actually available?

[cbn]

I know this is horribly out of date, but I just ran some idle power tests between a 1037u (Giada N70E-DR) and a socket 1150 with a celeron 3220.

Giada N70E-DR: 1x4GB SO-DIMM, 80W picopsu, SSD.
Idle: 14W

MSI H81i + Pentium G3220: 2x2GB dimm, 300W Seasonic 80+Bronze, SSD
Idle: 19W

Thanks for doing those tests.

I'm impressed the G3220/MSI H81 MITX comes out to only 19 watts idle with an ATX PSU.

 

[Atill]

I know this is horribly out of date, but I just ran some idle power tests between a 1037u (Giada N70E-DR) and a socket 1150 with a celeron 3220.

Giada N70E-DR: 1x4GB SO-DIMM, 80W picopsu, SSD.
Idle: 14W

MSI H81i + Pentium G3220: 2x2GB dimm, 300W Seasonic 80+Bronze, SSD
Idle: 19W

Great info, but it just makes choosing between the 1037u embedded stuff and a socketed Haswell tougher! Going for a low power windows media center that also has a couple big HDDs to replace a dedicated NAS that's sucking up a lot of power.

 

[cbn]

ECS NM70-I2 (1.0) on sale $58.64 (with promo code) and $5.39 shipping:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813135350

(promo code ends April 7th)

 

[cbn]

ECS NM70-TI (Celeron 847/807 version) on sale for $61.99 with free shipping:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813135368

Hopefully the 1037U version of this board will soon follow.

EDIT: According to a response in the Newegg Q and A, this board comes with a Azureware AW-NE139H b/g/n half-size mini pci-e wi-fi card. A Wifi card, can in fact, been seen in the last picture of the the ECS NM70-TI (V1.0A) Newegg gallery (zoom in and look between one of the SATA data cables and the I/O shield).

The above motherboard is now $41.99 After rebate with free shipping. ($20 rebate expires 4/30/14)

(29 in stock) ---> 46 now in stock

 

[cbn]

Duplicate post.

 

[Carson Dyle]

We're seeing a few J1800 boards on the market. Do they have any advantage over the 1037U/NM70 boards? One obvious disadvantage is support for only two 3 Mbps SATA devices.

 

[Kneedragger]

We're seeing a few J1800 boards on the market. Do they have any advantage over the 1037U/NM70 boards? One obvious disadvantage is support for only two 3 Mbps SATA devices.

From what I've seen the J1800 mostly come with a USB 3.0 while the 1037u don't. The J1800 so far come with a PCIe x1 while the 1037u have been advertised with more.

I grabbed a J1800 board since it came with the USB 3.0 and I can still use a PCIe for SATA.

 

[cbn]

From what I've seen the J1800 mostly come with a USB 3.0 while the 1037u don't. The J1800 so far come with a PCIe x1 while the 1037u have been advertised with more.

Yep, the Bay Trail-D boards come with one usb 3.0 port natively. They also come with a 10 watt TDP so they have a passive heatsink the currently available 1037U boards don't have,

With that mentioned, I am interested to see if MSI eventually releases a 1037U version of this passively cooled Celeron 847 Micro -ATX board:

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/C847MSE33.html

 

[Namisecond]

Thanks for doing those tests.

I'm impressed the G3220/MSI H81 MITX comes out to only 19 watts idle with an ATX PSU.

It's actually a TFX PSU, but yeah, I am a bit surprised too despite Seasonic's reputation for good PSUs.

Under load, the differences show. The 1037u barely crosses 26W, the G3220 goes up to 45-46W

The sad thing is, the GT1 GPU in the G3220 is powerful enough to allow me to play Star Trek Online (a 4 yr old free to play MMO) at over 30fps in 1080p as long as anti aliasing is turned off.

 

[cbn]

ECS NM70-TI (Celeron 847/807 version) on sale for $61.99 with free shipping:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813135368

Hopefully the 1037U version of this board will soon follow.

EDIT: According to a response in the Newegg Q and A, this board comes with a Azureware AW-NE139H b/g/n half-size mini pci-e wi-fi card. A Wifi card, can in fact, been seen in the last picture of the the ECS NM70-TI (V1.0A) Newegg gallery (zoom in and look between one of the SATA data cables and the I/O shield).

The above motherboard is now $41.99 After rebate with free shipping. ($20 rebate expires 4/30/14)

(29 in stock) ---> 46 now in stock

Price dropped again to $31.99 After rebate with free shipping.

 

[AkumaX]

must keep this party going..

well, in a non-1037u related post, newegg has a sale on a couple itx mobs, $45 for an h61 and $55 for an h81, tempting...

 

[Carson Dyle]

And along those same lines: Newegg currently has the Foxconn nT-i2847 barebones 847U system for just $99.99.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

And along those same lines: Newegg currently has the Foxconn nT-i2847 barebones 847U system for just $99.99.

Well, crap. That'll support Linux, Win8, and/or x64!

Anybody want to buy a FoxConn AT-5250? (None of the above. Thanks, PowerVR.)

 

[VirtualLarry]

And along those same lines: Newegg currently has the Foxconn nT-i2847 barebones 847U system for just $99.99.

That's pretty nice. Do you know if it will take 16GB of RAM and an SSD?

I have a pair of AT-5570 units, the C-70 NanoPCs. They're alright, though a bit slow on the CPU side. (Graphics-wise, they're fine.)

 

[cbn]

And along those same lines: Newegg currently has the Foxconn nT-i2847 barebones 847U system for just $99.99.

When I put that Foxconn in my cart to check quantity (there are 154 left), I noticed five of them come with the following items as free gifts:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16800995190

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827471001

So $99 for a Celeron 847 barebones plus remote and DVD burner seems like a really good deal!

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Aww, I ordered yesterday and didn't get those.

Oh well. I got that remote with the 5250 I ordered; it works well enough, even with the PLEX client, but I much prefer the wireless kb/trackpad.

www.amazon.com/Mini-Wireless-Keyboar...dp/B00I5SW8MC/

 

[cbn]

Aww, I ordered yesterday and didn't get those.

Is there anyway you can get those by using Newegg chat? (I have read they will refund money on an item if the price lowers within a specified amount of time after purchase, but I have idea if this also applies to added gift items as well?)

P.S. It looks like only two Foxconn units are left with that deal (free usb DVD burner and remote) . I am assuming when those sell out there will be no replacements.....but maybe I am wrong?

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Is there anyway you can get those by using Newegg chat? (I have read they will refund money on an item if the price lowers within a specified amount of time after purchase, but I have idea if this also applies to added gift items as well?)

P.S. It looks like only two Foxconn units are left with that deal (free usb DVD burner and remote) . I am assuming when those sell out there will be no replacements.....but maybe I am wrong?

I don't really care. I have external DVDs if I need them. I don't, though.

 

[VirtualLarry]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856167067

MSI mini barebones 1037U system. Kinda pricey, it's $190.

Compare and contrast to the Foxconn 847U system for $100.

If the 1037U was $150, I might consider it. But almost double the price? Ouch.

 

[cbn]

NAS: Foxconn D-70S-P (Celeron 1037U) / 4GB DDR3 / 3x 2TB Toshiba DT01ACA200, RAID-Z / APEX MI-008.

Hey Dave, I see for your 1037U you are using the APEX MI-008. (I also have an APEX MI-008 I bought last month, but I haven't built it up yet)

Just wondering....

1. How did you mount your three 3.5" HDDs?

Did you put one in the 5.25" bay, one in the 3.5" bay and one mounted on the side of the case (covering the vents)?

Or did you put two in the 5.25" bay (using an adapter) and one in the 3.5" bay?

2. Also are you using any added fans for your case?

3. How are your temps?

Thanks.

 

[cbn]

Here is the dual 3.5" HDD/5.25" bay adapter I am thinking about eventually using with my APEX MI-008:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9SIA3TR1B32344

but I am wondering if it is even necessary unless I needed to go to four 3.5" drives.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Hey Dave, I see for your 1037U you are using the APEX MI-008. (I also have an APEX MI-008 I bought last month, but I haven't built it up yet)

Just wondering....

1. How did you mount your three 3.5" HDDs?

Did you put one in the 5.25" bay, one in the 3.5" bay and one mounted on the side of the case (covering the vents)?

Or did you put two in the 5.25" bay (using an adapter) and one in the 3.5" bay?

2. Also are you using any added fans for your case?

3. How are your temps?

Thanks.

They ran hot, so I broke them out into a JBOD enclosure and do not have any drives actually installed in the case.

With just the Celeron and the PSU in there, temps are fine.

I don't really think there's enough room for that dual-drive thing you've got there. Unless you've got some very slim 3.5" drives. A 5.25" bay is 1.625" high, and height of 3.5" HDDs varies, but they're typically an inch tall, and need space in between for airflow.

In retrospect, the case was kind of a bust.

 

[AkumaX]

lol, Celeron quad-core J1900 (4 x 2.0ghz)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157513

gets 2000 CPU marks (vs 1700 for the dual core 1037U), but that means single-threaded performance will suffer greatly

note that the J1900 and similar are based off Bay Trail's 10w arch (rather than Haswell), more suited for Win 8 RT tablets and such

 

[cbn]

lol, Celeron quad-core J1900 (4 x 2.0ghz)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157513

gets 2000 CPU marks (vs 1700 for the dual core 1037U), but that means single-threaded performance will suffer greatly

note that the J1900 and similar are based off Bay Trail's 10w arch (rather than Haswell), more suited for Win 8 RT tablets and such

Yeah, they are not really that impressive performance wise compared to the 1037U.

Major thing I like though is the passive heatsink and usb 3.0. (That is definitely worth something to me)

Unfortunately, Bay trail-D doesn't have SATA 6 Gbps like the 1037U (even the lowly NM70 chipset provides one port of 6 Gbps) and is limited to only two SATA unless a third party IC is added.

P.S. I did noticed the price of some Bay Trail-D MINI-ITX is lowering though. (Example, this Biostar J1800NH dual core is now $62.99 FS ---> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138403

 

[cbn]

They ran hot, so I broke them out into a JBOD enclosure and do not have any drives actually installed in the case.

With just the Celeron and the PSU in there, temps are fine.

In retrospect, the case was kind of a bust.

I wonder if I could get away with three 3.5" HDDs in APEX MI-008 if:

1. I use unRAID so only one disk spins up during read and two disks speed up during write (as compared to RAID-Z or RAID5 where all three disk spin up during reads and writes)

2. I use 5xxx rpm "green drives" as compared to 7200 rpm drives.

3. I put a 80mm fan mounted on the side vents of the case where the PCI-E slot is.

I don't really think there's enough room for that dual-drive thing you've got there. Unless you've got some very slim 3.5" drives. A 5.25" bay is 1.625" high, and height of 3.5" HDDs varies, but they're typically an inch tall, and need space in between for airflow.

Thanks for pointing that out.

So my three 3.5" HDDs would be positioned as follows:

One drive in the 3.5" bay, one drive in the 5.25" bay and one drive in the sled mounted on the side of the case opposite the PCI-E slot.