Apple v. Samsung Jury Decision.

[abaez]

I think Samsung needs to hire the Dream Team in patent law here....

Quinn is the one of the top, if not the top, IP law firm in the world.

 

[Phynaz]

All of Apple patents were found to be valid.

Jury has decided that Samsung's actions diluted the value of the 3GS. Mark that one triple ouch. Apple's lawyers have got to be dancing in the isles by now.

 

[CptObvious]

This is pretty much to be expected, after Apple got their smoking guns into evidence (internal Samsung memos/e-mails and Google's e-mails to Samsung). Samsung knew it too, as they spent the last days of the trial trying to minimize damages. Whatever Apple was asking for in settlement, it must have been really insane for Samsung to turn it down and have to go in knowing they'd get an unfavorable verdict.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

This ruling shows how ridiculous the US carriers are.

4:00:45 PM PDT
STA: Yes for Fascinate, Galaxy S 4G, Showcase, Mesmerize, Vibrant. No for Captivate, Droid Charge, Epic 4G, Galaxy Prevail S2 ATT, S2 Tmobile, Epic 4G Touch, Skyrocket, and Infuse 4G.
4:00:06 PM PDT
No for Captive, Droid Charge, Epic 4G, S2, Epic 4G Touch, Skyrocket, Infuse 4G
3:59:39 PM PDT
Yes on Fascinate, i9000, Galaxy S 4G, Showcase, Mesmerize, Vibrant.

All the bolded represent idiotic phones made only for the US. How much of a marketshare does that represent? Meanwhile the i9000 and i9100 represent how much of the Samsung Android marketshare?

 

[abaez]

$1 billion in damages. Half of what Apple asked.. guess it's not all bad for Samsung heh.

 

[ChronoReverse]

1 billion, 51 million 855 thousand dollars damages.

Yikes.

 

[Sheep]

$1 billion in damages. Half of what Apple asked.. guess it's not all bad for Samsung heh.

Glass half full or glass half empty?

 

[Chrono]

This is pretty much to be expected, after Apple got their smoking guns into evidence (internal Samsung memos/e-mails and Google's e-mails to Samsung). Samsung knew it too, as they spent the last days of the trial trying to minimize damages. Whatever Apple was asking for in settlement, it must have been really insane for Samsung to turn it down and have to go in knowing they'd get an unfavorable verdict.

How the hell did they get internal memos/google emails and were able to present these as valid evidence that were permissible in court?

 

[ChronoReverse]

Samsung all no's.

 

[MrX8503]

Samsung has been copying competitors for years. Samsung is a giant and it took another giant to do something about it.

Honestly, I think this will result into more innovation on Samsung's part.

 

[cheezy321]

How the hell did they get internal memos/google emails and were able to present these as valid evidence that were permissible in court?

It is all part of the 'discovery' process

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_(law)

 

[Phynaz]

And Apple share price hits a record high.

Wondering what injunctive relief there will be.

 

[cheezy321]

Wow, samsung didnt win ANYTHING in its countersuit. Wow

Next up: Queue all the apologists talking about the 'crappy lawyers' Samsung hired.

 

[CptObvious]

How the hell did they get internal memos/google emails and were able to present these as valid evidence that were permissible in court?

My guess is that they were able to bring it in on cross-examination as impeachment evidence. I recall one of Samsung's witnesses started talking about the Samsung "crisis of design" e-mail (probably a tactical mistake) and Apple's attorney was able to bring it in at that point.

EDIT: Actually I was way off (probably thinking of something else). Here's the AllThingsD article talking about the memo getting into evidence: http://allthingsd.com/20120806/iphone-caused-crisis-of-design-at-samsung-memo/

 

[Phynaz]

Samsung loses on all counter claims.

 

[Phynaz]

Wow, samsung didnt win ANYTHING in its countersuit. Wow

Next up: Queue all the apologists talking about the 'crappy lawyers' Samsung hired.

Nah, it will be the the judge was on Apple's side and wouldn't let Samsung present their evidence.

 

[Dumac]

So ridiculous.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

if steve jobs were alive, he'd be swimming in $100 bills tonight to celebrate

 

[foghorn67]

I'm thinking my iphone's going for a swim. Metaphorically.

 

[jpiniero]

So ridiculous.

The original Galaxy S was as blatant as you can get. Is that worth a B? I dunno.

 

[Sheep]

From the Mercury News live updates:

As Samsung's attorneys peruse the verdict form, I see one of those bubbles over their heads that reads: "We'll see what the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals has to say about this"

Yup, sounds about right.

 

[cheezy321]

Of course Samsung is going to appeal this. They will drag it out as long as possible. Apple would do the same if it lost.

 

[gorcorps]

You know, I thought all these claims about Samsung taking Apple's design ideas was bullshit... but I have a Samsung slate and every single person at first glance thinks it's an ipad. Applying what "general public" goggles I may have, I guess I get it.

 

[Slick5150]

If anything this ruling shows how badly the patent system needs overhauling.

 

[Sheep]

You know, I thought all these claims about Samsung taking Apple's design ideas was bullshit... but I have a Samsung slate and every single person at first glance thinks it's an ipad. Applying what "general public" goggles I may have, I guess I get it.

While Samsung did rip off the iPhone 3 pretty blatantly with some of their phone hardware and software, using the general public as a measure of anything isn't the best idea. A lot of people are willfully ignorant.

I can't wait for the upcoming trial with Kleenex suing Puffs because a significant portion of the population refers to Puffs as Kleenex which dilutes Kleenex's brand and costs them money.