Apple to hold 'Back to the Mac' event on October 20th

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

If I could play Angry Birds on my flatscreen using a Magic Trackpad wirelessly, I would buy an AppleTV.

That and Flight Control. :biggrin:

What about using your iDevice as the controller?

 

[Kaido]

This is something I've never understood. People keep saying that Apple TV + Magic Trackpad would be just like using an iPhone. Am I missing something here? The Magic Trackpad doesn't have a screen, you wouldn't be able to see what you're touching. It would have to act like a regular mouse/trackpad with a cursor that you move around on the screen. The only thing it gains you is multi-touch gestures. A game like Flight Control that is designed for a touch screen is not going to work nearly as well with a cursor controlled by a trackpad.

They'd just have to do something like the Wii does for menus - have a floating symbol so you can see where you're at. But it would vary from game to game...with Angry Birds, you only need to do do a gesture anywhere to pull back on the slingshot.

I think it'd be cool :biggrin:

 

[intogamer]

Embedded SSDs on logic board for the Air ftw

 

[TheStu]

Yes I have - and while broadly objective from a purely bench-testing-for-figures technical perspective, Born-Again Mac Fanboi is mixed in there as well. It's almost as though a type of tech writer can't help themselves.

Just to take a couple of points, no mention was e.g. made of the higher instances of BSOD's, indicating any test was purely benched for a limited duration. 'Awesome display?' why not compare it to machines actually in a similar utility/price range?

I wrote a while back about the two sides of the most enthusiastic Apple users: Former DIY'ers and the Dunning-Kruger. And at the end of the day, both come into it through different types of cognitive dissonance.

Hey, since I have a large part of the current Apple catalog floating around in my working / home environment I'll be happy to take a PM from the AT management to run up an actually objective review for reference purposes, if that makes you any happier. I doubt it will though.

So, anyone that doesn't match your opinion on the matter is an idiot, a blithering, advertisment fed, gibbering corporate drone fool?

They brought up that the Envy 14 was missing from the comparison, it does match the MBP in pricing, and offers more bang for your Windows buck.

And in the bolded bit, I can't tell if you are saying anything useful to the situation, or just stringing together words. Now, since I am a Dunning-Kruger effected Mac user suffering from cognitive dissonance, the fact that I rate myself as a fairly intelligent person doesn't mean anything to you. But am going to go ahead and say, at least for me and my ignorant, idiotic, sheep-like ilk... you are just as entrenched in your opinions as the rest of us. Trying to blanket them with the words 'objective' and throwing your Psych 101 glossary terms at us in order to try and make it out like you have the only valid opinion.

And for another thing, if you have so much money, and so much experience, and so much hands on time with so many different kinds of laptop, and know that you can always get exactly what you want... why do you care what us peons are using?

 

[TheStu]

Embedded SSDs on logic board for the Air ftw

And if you want to upgrade the size? Or get a faster SSD? It was bad enough that the first Air was locked in at 2GB RAM.

 

[Spicedaddy]

11.6" CULV+SSD MacBook Air is looking nice. Best portable form factor IMO.

I'd consider replacing my Acer 1410 with one, depending on price.

 

[KeypoX]

11.6" CULV+SSD MacBook Air is looking nice. Best portable form factor IMO.

I'd consider replacing my Acer 1410 with one, depending on price.

I would buy it for 500 if it had an i5.

 

[intogamer]

And if you want to upgrade the size? Or get a faster SSD? It was bad enough that the first Air was locked in at 2GB RAM.

Um, the previous and current Air's wasn't really user-changeable. The SSDs sported a ZIF connector.

 

[TheStu]

Um, the previous and current Air's wasn't really user-changeable. The SSDs sported a ZIF connector.

But it wasn't soldered to the logic board. There were third party options available. Not easy to replace, and not cheap, but it could be done.

 

[intogamer]

But it wasn't soldered to the logic board. There were third party options available. Not easy to replace, and not cheap, but it could be done.

Which is why I believe Apple will likely move to a soldered solution. I don't think it was Apple's intention to give consumers an easy do-it yourself upgrade, like the 2.5" drives in MBPs. Apple orders massive amounts of DRAM for everything else anyways, so why not? Plus, it frees-up space for a larger battery, and they can't release another 3.5-4hr MBA again! (might as well go buy a 13" MBP, down-clock the CPU, and remove the Superdrive)

 

[KeypoX]

I would buy it for 500 if it had an i5.

However, I bet its 1500+, and sporting a core 2 duo lol

 

[intogamer]

Which is why I believe Apple will likely move to a soldered solution. I don't think it was Apple's intention to give consumers an easy do-it yourself upgrade, like the 2.5" drives in MBPs. Apple orders massive amounts of DRAM for everything else anyways, so why not? Plus, it frees-up space for a larger battery, and they can't release another 3.5-4hr MBA again! (might as well go buy a 13" MBP, down-clock the CPU, and remove the Superdrive)

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...esigned_macbook_air_photos_surface_rumor.html

looks like the SSD is embedded!! oh lawd
heh, I should be a stock analyst!

edit: I think they embedded A4 chips.

Also, since the Air 3,1 is still using C2D, I think highly possible for Apple to discontinue the 13" C2D MBP. It is Apple's top selling laptop. A new 1.3-1.4k price range will allow Apple to maintain their high margins. This will allow the $999 MacBook to better compete for the lower market.

 

[vbuggy]

So, anyone that doesn't match your opinion on the matter is an idiot, a blithering, advertisment fed, gibbering corporate drone fool?

They brought up that the Envy 14 was missing from the comparison, it does match the MBP in pricing, and offers more bang for your Windows buck.

And in the bolded bit, I can't tell if you are saying anything useful to the situation, or just stringing together words. Now, since I am a Dunning-Kruger effected Mac user suffering from cognitive dissonance, the fact that I rate myself as a fairly intelligent person doesn't mean anything to you. But am going to go ahead and say, at least for me and my ignorant, idiotic, sheep-like ilk... you are just as entrenched in your opinions as the rest of us. Trying to blanket them with the words 'objective' and throwing your Psych 101 glossary terms at us in order to try and make it out like you have the only valid opinion.

Not at all TheStu. In summary what I'm saying is that many ordinary people who may be perfectly intelligent in some ways are prone to some degree of cognitive dissonance. And Apple targets a specific, but very common (among the ordinarily intelligent or not), cognitive dissonance that other manufacturers have singularly failed to do in an effective way.

Stung, did it? I wonder why you have to rush in all of these threads you deem anti-Apple? Perhaps some introspection is in order.

And for another thing, if you have so much money, and so much experience, and so much hands on time with so many different kinds of laptop, and know that you can always get exactly what you want... why do you care what us peons are using?

Ultimately of course I don't. But honestly, BS in any form irks me.

I use OS X for various reasons. And while I've explored hackingtoshing and VM's due to the inadequate hardware offered on the platform, they are considerably less viable than e.g. Boot Camp, quite apart from the licensing issues.

It's odd isn't it. I pretty much use the best of what OS X and Windows has to offer on a daily basis, and am probably in a fairly rare position of employing them in a wide variety of environments and usage scenarios, to a level which even professional reviewers are likely to not approach on all but what they've chosen to, or are issued to, use. And yes, having an adequate tech budget allows me to swap gear on a regular basis with what I'm interested in. But you get your nose bent out of shape and have to pick at my posts like a scab when your opinion of one is tweaked. What was that about psych 101 again?

If the new Air offers more runtime for starters - even if measured with Apple's overoptimistic ratings - I'll certainly buy it to check it out. While the Hypermacs can be handy as separate cells, I tire of carrying >4lbs all-up when I'm supposed to be carrying an uptraportable, especially when on the Windows side I can just pop a standard Sony Z in my bag for all-day light use. And yes, I'll have an opinion on it in line with the above.

 

[Emulex]

no dude the ssd is using that new dimm - anyways the macbook air is boutique. it fits in a purse - it looks pimp.

it's like buying an m3 or 335is - they are pimped out already 19" rims (335is is chipped factory) and m3 is race bred - you don't go modding them. they are designed for a purpose and for the most part 99% of the peeps rock them out for 3 years then give them /sell them to someone else. and the residuals are very high like apple.

remember osx is BSD i grew up with BSDi 1.1 through the end (5) and freebsd 3 until BSDi gave their goods to freebsd (5) and still rock it out. so to me having a stable unix underlying o/s (bsd is the most!) plus a nice gui and reasonably self maintaining - and it runs win7 or linux or whatever else.

*bsd wet dream.

It's an executive laptop - where the ipad fails - the air doesn't.

the only thing we need is integrated gobi for 3G's or 4G's - touchscreen is way way way overhyped.

if they can separate the saucer section like the TC1100 hp - that would be a stupid dope macbook air (tablet). hp had that company design the TC1100 and you can still see all the hardcore hp engineers still rocking them out - detachable keyboard ftw. tough little mofo too. what was the name of the company that made that laptop for them? motion computing?

 

[Tequila]

Stung, did it? I wonder why you have to rush in all of these threads you deem anti-Apple? Perhaps some introspection is in order.

Is your memory really that bad? Just a page ago you interrupted this thread with these hater quotes:

AKA the 'hey, we know you dumb fucks will buy this shit anyway, but we need the dumb fucks in what passes for the tech press these days to fawn over our computers again'.

No matter how crap it is actually, you'll buy it because it looks so good and you'll justify it to yourself in all sorts of ways which just isn't true. 10-hour runtimes, durable body, great screen, etc.

 

[vbuggy]

Is your memory really that bad? Just a page ago you interrupted this thread with these hater quotes:

Oh no, that's fine in context. My post was obviously counter to a certain type of collective delusion and it would undoubtedly invite some comment. I was referring to those beyond the obvious.

 

[bearxor]

Preview of 10.7
iLife 11
iWork 11
Possibly new MacBook Air

That's all folks, move along...

Anyone expecting more than this is setting themselves up for a huge disappointment.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

Anyone expecting more than this is setting themselves up for a huge disappointment.

MacBook Air update should be amazing.

What do you think the One More Thing is going to be?

 

[Kaido]

MacBook Air update should be amazing.

What do you think the One More Thing is going to be?

11.6" Macbook Air. With secondary CPU - A4 chip. And touchscreen. Swap between iOS & OS X. And an AMD chip for the main.

:biggrin:

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

11.6" Macbook Air. With secondary CPU - A4 chip. And touchscreen. Swap between iOS & OS X. And an AMD chip for the main.

:biggrin:

That would be interesting.

No apple tv with apps enabled software update?

 

[Pliablemoose]

MacBook Air update should be amazing.

What do you think the One More Thing is going to be?

An iPhone on Verizon.

Apple is losing ground (actually losing) to the onslaught of Android OS'd phones, the lead time would be just about right for a January release and freeze the Christmas sales of competitor's phones for people that will hold out for a Verizon iPhone.

 

[vbuggy]

MacBook Air update should be amazing.

What do you think the One More Thing is going to be?

A sock for the Air?

I do hope there's more substance to go with the style with the refresh of the Bendybook Air. I'll probably be disappointed though - they've never not let me down so far.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I'm hoping for a new OS X version - I will buy it and do a fresh install on the 500GB Momentus XT I have coming for my MacBook Pro unibody.

 

[Kaido]

Apple's Forum Mods leaked some new products:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/20/apple-com-reveals-ilife-upgrade-reaffirms-macbook-air-refresh/

* iLife 2011
* Macbook Air refresh

 

[Kaido]

Macbook Air details supposedly confirmed:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/20/11-6-inch-macbook-air-detailed/

* Smaller 11.6-inch display.
* 2.13GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (with a 2.33GHz option possible).
* 2GB of memory in the base configuration.
* No optical drive, naturally.
* Mini DisplayPort, USB, and SD card reader along the left-hand side and USB and power on the right (that's 2x USB).
* The trackpad has been updated to match that of the new MacBook Pros.
* Although smaller due to the 11.6-inch display, it's still about the same thickness as the current MacBook Air.
* A black power key now sits immediately to the right of a smaller eject key on the MBA's keyboard * The round aluminum power button is gone. A design decision that might support the MBA's rumored instant-on capabilities though our source didn't see this functionality exhibited (possibly because it was running OS X 10.6.4).

If it's under a grand, then my bank account is in trouble