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trikster2

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Originally posted by: Eug
Originally posted by: trikster2
You have to wonder why Apple did not put an iPOD dock in the thing. Also if they made a simple mythTV style interface for ripping/playing they could do a good job of pushing the iPod into the masses that still can't figure out how to use a puter.....
Probably because:

1) Cost
2) Size
3) There are a bazillion different iPod form factors now.
4) They make money off docks.

mini, 3g and 4g all have the same connector. Just need some sort of spring loaded adjustable base.

Size... you are right that thing is tight as it is. Almost looks modular though. Could imagine an ipod dock that "matches"

Cost. For a connector and an indent? Ok +30 dollars to tie this into the #1 selling apple product, seems like it would be worth it.

4. Aye they do make money off the docks. Probably why they keep on changing thime. But $35 (or whatever) for a dock should be nothing compared to total apple return on one "switcher".

Course now that they have the mini-mac out there it always leaves room for an "i-pod" eddition...

 

imported_Lucifer

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Thats awesome. Now I regret buying my 1GHz eMac for 700 bucks back in April of 2004!!!!! :(

Anyways, I was also looking at that iPod shuffle. Its kind of ugly. But you have to read this!!! Its hilarious!!!! :D

1: Music capacity is based on 4 minutes per song and 128Kbps AAC encoding.

2: Do not eat iPod shuffle.


What in the hell???

Here is the link

Just scroll all the way down to the where it shows the ipod shuffle attached to the notebook.
 

trikster2

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: timswim78
I am looking forward to seeing Windows knock-offs of this. It would be sweet to have Windows machine of that size.

I am not knocking MAC's. I just prefer Windows.

http://www.mini-itx.com

NanoITX pwnz that Big Fat Oversized Mac. :p

- M4H


First announced NanoITX computer is the same size/bigger than the Mini Mac

"The first PC based on the Nano-ITX motherboard is expected to start shipping within the next three months. Called Nanode, the PC measures 3.7 inches by 5.9 inches by 6.3 inches, making it one of the smallest fully-configured desktop computers ever produced."

And talk about vaporware, that was from a march 04 article and now it looks like the nanode will not ship until "Q2 05".


Here's a pict:

http://www.mini-itx.com/news/n...e/images/nanode-00.jpg

Note a nano-ITX case could be smaller, as the motherboard is 4.7" x 4.7"......

And via graphics versus ATI? Hmmm wonder which would be better?



 

amol

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Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy
Thats awesome. Now I regret buying my 1GHz eMac for 700 bucks back in April of 2004!!!!! :(

Anyways, I was also looking at that iPod shuffle. Its kind of ugly. But you have to read this!!! Its hilarious!!!! :D

1: Music capacity is based on 4 minutes per song and 128Kbps AAC encoding.

2: Do not eat iPod shuffle.

What in the hell???

lol LINK!
 

Eug

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Originally posted by: trikster2
mini, 3g and 4g all have the same connector. Just need some sort of spring loaded adjustable base.

Size... you are right that thing is tight as it is. Almost looks modular though. Could imagine an ipod dock that "matches"

Cost. For a connector and an indent? Ok +30 dollars to tie this into the #1 selling apple product, seems like it would be worth it.

4. Aye they do make money off the docks. Probably why they keep on changing thime. But $35 (or whatever) for a dock should be nothing compared to total apple return on one "switcher".

Course now that they have the mini-mac out there it always leaves room for an "i-pod" eddition...
Except you don't need a dock at all. You can just plug in the USB 2 or Firewire cable. A dock is just a bonus.


Originally posted by: trikster2
And via graphics versus ATI? Hmmm wonder which would be better?
The Radeon 9200 would blow it out of the water no doubt.
 

jpanzload

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Why can't PC case makers catch up and design something of HALF this quality (in ANY size) instead of cranking out these plastic "war helmets"?? I was half excited looking at the Antec Sonata for my new rig, thinking I'd at least found something innocuous (and possibly even vaguely elegant), but when I saw it in the store it looked like a giant lump of black Tonka Truck. Sigh...
 

coolred

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Man and I just ordered a biostar 200N for my current rig to move to. I have always wanted to play with a Mac just to learn how they work in case I ever need that knowledge. Looks cool to me. Will have to keep an eye on it.
 

bpt8056

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Originally posted by: trikster2
And via graphics versus ATI? Hmmm wonder which would be better?
The Radeon 9200 would blow it out of the water no doubt.[/quote]

Blow it out of the water in what? Games? Neither of them are suitable for it. Remember, the 9200 is worse in performance compared to the 9000 and 9100 series. It's pretty much moot at this point especially with the target audience in mind.
 

imported_Lucifer

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Right now, I am thinking of selling my eMac just to buy one of the high end Mac Mini's. I think that is what I am going to do.
 

ViRGE

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Well Eug, I'd say it's a good time to be a Mac-addict. Now how about you say we go in on some stock?;)

PS for anyone thinking about WoW on a Mac, some of the shader effects still aren't supported due to the newness of the OpenGL renderer. If you're serious about WoW, you still want a PC
 

batmanuel

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Originally posted by: Eug
Originally posted by: omissible
Don't ever, ever, ever buy memory from Apple.
Pick any other reputable vendor and install it yourself.
Like I said:

The other problem is memory. It is NOT user upgradable. You either have to pay Apple's prices for RAM, or else pay a technician to install it. It might be a good idea to wait for third party resellers to offer their free memory or cheap memory deals with this. If you install it yourself, you void the warranty.

MacMall will probably within a couple of weeks be offering to double your memory for free (after mail in rebate of course) if you buy one from them instead of the Apple store.

This new machine is pretty spiffy. I always wanted to dip my toes in the Mac side of life, but could never justify spending $1000+ to get a decent machine. Pair this up with a Dell 2005FPW that has been cut down to below $600 thanks to some furious coupon stacking and you'd have a nice set up. The nice thing about them using the Radeon 9200 for the graphics is that it has a bit nicer DVI output quality than the FX 5200. The kind of apps that you really want to have Core support on (like Motion and Final Cut) are a bit much for the included G4 anyway, so a 9200 really isn't that bad of a choice with this machine when you think about what it is intended for. What gamer is going to want a Mac anyway?
 

sauria

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I wonder how hot it runs? My G4/1.42 DP is a hot machine -- CPUS around 57°C all the time
 

KeithP

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MacMall will probably within a couple of weeks be offering to double your memory for free (after mail in rebate of course) if you buy one from them instead of the Apple store.

Go over to the Apple support forums in the PowerBook section and do a search for bad ram. You will find a number of people that have received free after rebate RAM from MacMall/Creative Computers that caused all sorts of problems. The RAM they offer for this deal was garbage.

While the form factor is very nice the performance is going to be pretty lack luster. Only 1 RAM slot, 2.5 HD, no DVD burner and iDVD which comes with it does not support 3rd party drives. I just found out a DVD burner is a BTO option for $100. It is a 4x drive.

I guess for light duty computing needs this is about as good as we will ever get from Apple. It will be interesting to see how well it sells.

-KeithP
 

dwcal

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: timswim78
I am looking forward to seeing Windows knock-offs of this. It would be sweet to have Windows machine of that size.

I am not knocking MAC's. I just prefer Windows.

http://www.mini-itx.com

NanoITX pwnz that Big Fat Oversized Mac. :p

- M4H


The MochaPC has been around a while, but it's pricey. $450 for a barebones. Mac Mini is cheap compared to a SFF PC.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: slash196
Wow, you pay 500 bucks for something with the same computing power as the average toaster.
Given the Northwood Celerons on 845 chipsets (not D, E, or PE!) out there, I'd not consider a toaster too bad :).
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: icejunkie
"Mac mini sports a full-fledged ATI Radeon 9200 with 32MB dedicated DDR SDRAM over an AGP 4x bus."

OMG!!!
Hey, it could have been a 9200SE w/o DVI... :)